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Trump threatens Comey in new tweet
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originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: butcherguy
There is no threat in the tweet.
Yes there is, a very veiled, mobster style threat. And, there's an accusation that he's illegally leaking falsehoods to the press.
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
Could you zero in on the specific words that constitute a threat pleae?
"Better hope" are the operative words in Trump's veiled threat.
That does not constitute a threat.
a reply to: Perfectenemy
I like that, I am open to suggestions, whatever just to get the dirty Clintons squashed in Washington and stop them in their tracks and kill their political ambitions.
I like that, I am open to suggestions, whatever just to get the dirty Clintons squashed in Washington and stop them in their tracks and kill their political ambitions.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: network dude
So Trump is reminding Comey not to embellish his stories because there "may" be recordings of the conversations.
But the left will not take the common sense route, they will spin this into something it's not as usual. how sad.
LOL, it's TWITTER Dude, not a PM! I don't see anything in that Tweet about "embellishment" and Trump isn't warning Comey about lying! He's accusing Comey of planning to "leak", and not so subtly suggesting that James Comey is a/the leaker.
so perhaps you will step up. What can Trump do with tapes of conversations with Comey other than prove what was actually said?
Are you reading the same tweet? You don't think for even one second that Trump is saying Comey had better not have made recordings? If not, why not? Are you really that blind to any suggestion of that?
a reply to: network dude
I agree, Washington is very well know for been full of intrigue, I will not be surprise he did.
I agree, Washington is very well know for been full of intrigue, I will not be surprise he did.
It has actually nothing to do with Trumps intentions with the tweet, but how Comey perceives it.
If he, Comey, takes it as a threat, it's a threat and Comey should report it.
The tweet can also, IMHO, be seen as an attempt to obstruct justice....
If he, Comey, takes it as a threat, it's a threat and Comey should report it.
The tweet can also, IMHO, be seen as an attempt to obstruct justice....
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: butcherguy
There is no threat in the tweet.
Yes there is, a very veiled, mobster style threat. And, there's an accusation that he's illegally leaking falsehoods to the press.
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
Could you zero in on the specific words that constitute a threat pleae?
"Better hope" are the operative words in Trump's veiled threat.
That does not constitute a threat.
Yes it does.
a reply to: EchoesInTime
Indeed!
And then, an hour later, he tweets
"China just agreed that the U.S. will be allowed to sell beef, and other major products, into China once again. This is REAL news!"
This is only "real NEWS" in a country run by a childish, illiterate dictator, especially a childish, illiterate dictator in trouble. When a country is well run by educated citizens, good trade deals are par for the course, not "real NEWS". That tweet about beef is cow plop. And he thinks he's being so smart with this tweet.... does it get any more pathetic? .... wait, it probably will
When a wealthy New York real estate developer, who has worked with American and Russian mobsters and has learned and knows how to make threats, is elected POTUS, it's par for the course!
Indeed!
And then, an hour later, he tweets
"China just agreed that the U.S. will be allowed to sell beef, and other major products, into China once again. This is REAL news!"
This is only "real NEWS" in a country run by a childish, illiterate dictator, especially a childish, illiterate dictator in trouble. When a country is well run by educated citizens, good trade deals are par for the course, not "real NEWS". That tweet about beef is cow plop. And he thinks he's being so smart with this tweet.... does it get any more pathetic? .... wait, it probably will
When a wealthy New York real estate developer, who has worked with American and Russian mobsters and has learned and knows how to make threats, is elected POTUS, it's par for the course!
a reply to: EartOccupant
I will update you since you must not take in any legit info. He obviously can't get his damaging policies passed through congress. And you are full of bs about Flint but that would require its own thread. :
•An order reversing some Obama-era offshore drilling restrictions and ordering a review of limits on drilling locations.
•A memo ordering an investigation into whether aluminum imports are hurting national security.
•An order meant to improve accountability and whistleblower protections for Veterans Affairs employees.
•An order directing a review of national monument designations under prior administrations.
•An order meant to affirm local control of school policies, and examine certain Department of Education regulations and guidance to determine their compliance with federal law.
•An order directing a task force to review regulations affecting the agriculture industry.
•An order and two memoranda empowering Treasury Secretary Mnuchin to move toward tax reform and end portions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform.
•A memo ordering an investigation into whether foreign steel is hurting national security.
•An order directing federal agencies to review the use of the H-1B visa program.
Two orders on trade; one requesting the Commerce Dept. report on the factors behind the trade deficit and another seeking to increase collection of duties on imports.
•An order establishing the President’s Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis.
•An order initiating a review of the Clean Power Plan, which restricted greenhouse gas emissions at coal-fired power plants.
•An order revoking Obama-era executive orders on federal contracting.
•An order directing a top-to-bottom audit of the Executive Branch.
•A revised order suspending the refugee program and entry to the U.S. for travelers from several mostly Muslim countries, in response to objections from courts. As before, the order will suspend refugee entries for 120 days, but doesn't suspend Syrian refugees indefinitely and no longer includes Iraq in the named countries. In signing this order, the original one was revoked.
•An order moving the HBCU (Historically Black College and Universities) offices back from the Department of Education to the White House.
•An order requiring every agency to establish a Regulatory Reform Task Force to evaluate regulations and recommend rules for repeal or modification.
•Three orders establishing three Department of Justice task forces to fight drug cartels, reduce violent crime and reduce attacks against police.
•An order directing the Treasury secretary to review the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial regulatory law.
•A memorandum instructing the Labor Department to delay implementing an Obama rule requiring financial professionals who are giving advice on retirement, and who charge commissions, to put their client's interests first.
•An order instructing agencies that whenever they introduce a regulation, they must first abolish two others.
•A memorandum to restructure the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council.
•A memorandum directing the Secretary of Defense to draw up a plan within 30 days to defeat ISIS.
•An order to lengthen the ban on administration officials working as lobbyists. There is now a 5 year-ban on officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government, and a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
•An executive order imposing a 120-day suspension of the refugee program and a 90-day ban on travel to the U.S. from citizens of seven terror hot spots: Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Sudan
•Two multi-pronged orders on border security and immigration enforcement including: the authorization of a U.S.-Mexico border wall; the stripping of federal grant money to sanctuary cities; hiring 5,000 more Border Patrol agents; ending “catch-and-release” policies for illegal immigrants; and reinstating local and state immigration enforcement
partnerships.
•A memorandum calling for a 30-day review of military readiness.
•Two orders reviving the Keystone XL pipeline and Dakota Access piplines. He also signed three other related orders that would: expedite the environmental permitting process for infrastructure projects related to the pipelines; direct the Commerce Department to streamline the manufacturing permitting process; and give the Commerce Department 180 days to maximize the use of U.S. steel in
the pipeline.
•An order to reinstate the so-called "Mexico City Policy" – a ban on federal funds to international groups that perform abortions or lobby to legalize or promote abortion. The policy was instituted in 1984 by President Reagan, but has gone into and out of effect depending on the party in power in the White House.
•A notice that the U.S. will begin withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. Trump called the order "a great thing for the American worker.
•An order imposing a hiring freeze for some federal government workers as a way to shrink the size of government. This excludes the military, as Trump noted at the signing.
•An order that directs federal agencies to ease the “regulatory burdens” of ObamaCare. It orders agencies to “waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay the implementation of any provision or requirement” of ObamaCare that imposes a “fiscal burden on any State or a cost, fee, tax, penalty, or regulatory burden on individuals, families, healthcare providers, health insurers, patients, recipients of healthcare services, purchasers of health insurance, or makers of medical devices, products, or medications.”
www.foxnews.com...
I will update you since you must not take in any legit info. He obviously can't get his damaging policies passed through congress. And you are full of bs about Flint but that would require its own thread. :
•An order reversing some Obama-era offshore drilling restrictions and ordering a review of limits on drilling locations.
•A memo ordering an investigation into whether aluminum imports are hurting national security.
•An order meant to improve accountability and whistleblower protections for Veterans Affairs employees.
•An order directing a review of national monument designations under prior administrations.
•An order meant to affirm local control of school policies, and examine certain Department of Education regulations and guidance to determine their compliance with federal law.
•An order directing a task force to review regulations affecting the agriculture industry.
•An order and two memoranda empowering Treasury Secretary Mnuchin to move toward tax reform and end portions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform.
•A memo ordering an investigation into whether foreign steel is hurting national security.
•An order directing federal agencies to review the use of the H-1B visa program.
Two orders on trade; one requesting the Commerce Dept. report on the factors behind the trade deficit and another seeking to increase collection of duties on imports.
•An order establishing the President’s Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis.
•An order initiating a review of the Clean Power Plan, which restricted greenhouse gas emissions at coal-fired power plants.
•An order revoking Obama-era executive orders on federal contracting.
•An order directing a top-to-bottom audit of the Executive Branch.
•A revised order suspending the refugee program and entry to the U.S. for travelers from several mostly Muslim countries, in response to objections from courts. As before, the order will suspend refugee entries for 120 days, but doesn't suspend Syrian refugees indefinitely and no longer includes Iraq in the named countries. In signing this order, the original one was revoked.
•An order moving the HBCU (Historically Black College and Universities) offices back from the Department of Education to the White House.
•An order requiring every agency to establish a Regulatory Reform Task Force to evaluate regulations and recommend rules for repeal or modification.
•Three orders establishing three Department of Justice task forces to fight drug cartels, reduce violent crime and reduce attacks against police.
•An order directing the Treasury secretary to review the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial regulatory law.
•A memorandum instructing the Labor Department to delay implementing an Obama rule requiring financial professionals who are giving advice on retirement, and who charge commissions, to put their client's interests first.
•An order instructing agencies that whenever they introduce a regulation, they must first abolish two others.
•A memorandum to restructure the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council.
•A memorandum directing the Secretary of Defense to draw up a plan within 30 days to defeat ISIS.
•An order to lengthen the ban on administration officials working as lobbyists. There is now a 5 year-ban on officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government, and a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
•An executive order imposing a 120-day suspension of the refugee program and a 90-day ban on travel to the U.S. from citizens of seven terror hot spots: Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Sudan
•Two multi-pronged orders on border security and immigration enforcement including: the authorization of a U.S.-Mexico border wall; the stripping of federal grant money to sanctuary cities; hiring 5,000 more Border Patrol agents; ending “catch-and-release” policies for illegal immigrants; and reinstating local and state immigration enforcement
partnerships.
•A memorandum calling for a 30-day review of military readiness.
•Two orders reviving the Keystone XL pipeline and Dakota Access piplines. He also signed three other related orders that would: expedite the environmental permitting process for infrastructure projects related to the pipelines; direct the Commerce Department to streamline the manufacturing permitting process; and give the Commerce Department 180 days to maximize the use of U.S. steel in
the pipeline.
•An order to reinstate the so-called "Mexico City Policy" – a ban on federal funds to international groups that perform abortions or lobby to legalize or promote abortion. The policy was instituted in 1984 by President Reagan, but has gone into and out of effect depending on the party in power in the White House.
•A notice that the U.S. will begin withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. Trump called the order "a great thing for the American worker.
•An order imposing a hiring freeze for some federal government workers as a way to shrink the size of government. This excludes the military, as Trump noted at the signing.
•An order that directs federal agencies to ease the “regulatory burdens” of ObamaCare. It orders agencies to “waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay the implementation of any provision or requirement” of ObamaCare that imposes a “fiscal burden on any State or a cost, fee, tax, penalty, or regulatory burden on individuals, families, healthcare providers, health insurers, patients, recipients of healthcare services, purchasers of health insurance, or makers of medical devices, products, or medications.”
www.foxnews.com...
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: butcherguy
There is no threat in the tweet.
Yes there is, a very veiled, mobster style threat. And, there's an accusation that he's illegally leaking falsehoods to the press.
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
Could you zero in on the specific words that constitute a threat pleae?
"Better hope" are the operative words in Trump's veiled threat.
That does not constitute a threat.
Yes it does.
No it doesn't.
Legal definition
The most important question here is how would Trump have known he recorded their conversations???
Where does he get his intel from because he right more often than not.
Where does he get his intel from because he right more often than not.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: butcherguy
There is no threat in the tweet.
Yes there is, a very veiled, mobster style threat. And, there's an accusation that he's illegally leaking falsehoods to the press.
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
Could you zero in on the specific words that constitute a threat pleae?
"Better hope" are the operative words in Trump's veiled threat.
That does not constitute a threat.
Yes it does.
No it doesn't.
Legal definition
From your link:
A threat has been defined to be any menace of such a nature and extent as to unsettle the mind of the person on whom it operates, and to take away from his acts that free, voluntary action which alone constitutes consent.
That's exactly what Trump's unsettling and menacing tweet represents. It's a clear case of "Witness Intimidation"
edit on 12-5-2017 by windword because: better
link
originally posted by: Charlyboy
President Donald Trump issued a thinly veiled threat Friday to fired FBI Director James Comey.
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press," the President tweeted.
The tweet marks an extraordinary development in the ongoing feud between Trump and the agencies investigating alleged ties between his campaign and Russia.
Trump threatens Comey in new tweet
I wonder what rump is talking about? What conversations??
What is he talking about or is this another Trump attention grab to divert away from Russia?
What are your thoughts?
Trump continues to talk out of his ass, obviously then it's a load of shiite, which in turn puts him in even more shiite.
Another example is what he said in the TV interview, one minute he wants the FBI to get to the bottom of the Russian thing, ten minutes later he then says it's all rubbish!
Okay Comey has now gone, but Trump hasn't put the wind up the FBI, since they did the raid on the Strategic Campaign Group who not only has ties to Stone, Black, Manafort and more, obvious Russian ties there, but maybe money laundering ties...perhaps a distinct Russian source there too, as Russian oligarchs have money spread all over the globe....the two headed gorgon perhaps?
edit on 12-5-2017 by smurfy because: Text.
a reply to: shooterbrody
That was Trump's goal. Plus, it was a public threat. Whether it worked or not on Comey isn't the point. Trump's intent is clear, and his Tweet was a clear cut case of Witness Intimidation.
That was Trump's goal. Plus, it was a public threat. Whether it worked or not on Comey isn't the point. Trump's intent is clear, and his Tweet was a clear cut case of Witness Intimidation.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Charlyboy
Stupid Drumpf, they don't use tapes anymore.
My guess is he found out Comey was a leaker.
THAT is an excellent guess.
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