It Might Be Panic Time

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

a reply to: Dark Ghost

Allow me too correct you on something, many American voters fear of Hillary was not that she would lead us into WW3, it was that she would lead us into WW3 and proceed to fight it in a manner other than one leading to a clear US victory. Make no mistake about this, I am neither pro nor anti war... I am of the mindset "if we do this, we pull no punches, we yield to no foreign pressure, we worry about no 'UN consensus', we simply fight it like we own it and leave nothing standing or living in our wake. Hillary sure as hell wasn't the candidate to do that, Trump is still likely to approach conflicts in that manner, however.

I frankly don't give a damn about dead Syrians one way or the other, bomb Assad for gaming his own, don't bomb Assad for gassing his own, it matters not to me... but whatever actions this country makes had better make fiscal sense AND only involve US boots on Syrian soil if our intent is to rain down fire and brimstone to win a war, not some ridiculous loser strategy of "winning hearts and minds."

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

In this, I'm going to disagree. Judging a guy by an affectionate nickname given to a commander by his Marines, is hardly a case against Mattis and his abilities. In fact, Mattis is the only sane, Trustworthy one in the Chump administration, and is the only one I have any faith in to do his job well.

I'd actually look up and learn some stuff about Mattis. The guy is opposed to torture and has said it doesn't work, he generally supports the idea of a two state solution for Israel, and is probably the only one in the administration I trust to handle his job.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Then why didn't he bomb where Assad lives?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

I'll trust General Mattis over any little bitch worthless politician you support.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

In addition to having a funny tough guy name...let's see if he (Mattis) brings any experience or has been recognized for his intelligence, bravery or ability to successfully command.

Rank:
General

Commands:

U.S. Central Command
U.S. Joint Forces Command
Supreme Allied Commander Transformation
I Marine Expeditionary Force
U.S. Marine Forces Central Command
Marine Corps Combat Development Command
1st Marine Division
7th Marine Regiment
1st Battalion, 7th Marines

Battles/wars:

Persian Gulf War
Invasion of Afghanistan
Iraq War
• Invasion of Iraq
• First Battle of Fallujah
• Second Battle of Fallujah

Awards:

Defense Distinguished Service Medal (2)
Navy Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit
Bronze Star (with Valor)
Meritorious Service Medal (3)

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

What are you moaning about! You lefties wanted this from the beguining! Hell Trump hasnt gone a fraction towards what hillary wanted which was to shoot Russian jets down.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Dark Ghost

Allow me too correct you on something, many American voters fear of Hillary was not that she would lead us into WW3, it was that she would lead us into WW3 and proceed to fight it in a manner other than one leading to a clear US victory. Make no mistake about this, I am neither pro nor anti war... I am of the mindset "if we do this, we pull no punches, we yield to no foreign pressure, we worry about no 'UN consensus', we simply fight it like we own it and leave nothing standing or living in our wake. Hillary sure as hell wasn't the candidate to do that, Trump is still likely to approach conflicts in that manner, however.

hahahahahahahahah

Sorry if WW3 starts it does not matter if it was Trump or Hillary that fought it. It would not matter how it was fought either because either way both the USA and Russia and likley the entire would be wiped out.

There would be no US "victory" or Russian "Victory" just 7 billion radioactive corpses.

a reply to: crazyewok

She's driven you mad huh? She's controlling the white house and telling trump to bomb bomb away.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

LOL!!! Oh MY!!!!

Yes but he is a ground pounder, a grunts general. How often have we heard that these sorts are cut out in favor of the polished political general.

a reply to: Logarock

Too bad we couldn't have John Kerry...who served in Vietnam.
HE was the erudite political diplomat whom managed to negotiate Assad to destroy 100% of Syria's chemical weapons, donchaknow.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Then why didn't he bomb where Assad lives?

Because you never play the best card in your hand as your opener. Syria today is thinking "uh oh, this mofo isn't going to just sit and harp against us, he's actually willing to act unilaterally..." Smart money says Trump didn't *need* to bomb Assad directly to get his point across. I wouldn't want to be the fat little Korean child king today, however... that boy may well find a cruise missile through his palace roof soon.

To Ewok: we aren't going to have a nuclear war, dude. Calm the crazy fear train... but if we do, screw the world because we will all be dead and really not care anymore, ya?

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

I think people are confused. Some seem to think that if you support Trump, you have to support his actions in Syria.

I don't like what happened, but like you, I also trust General Mattis.

Because it's always good to trust someone called Mad Dog in sensitive global political aggressions.

LOL!!! Oh MY!!!!

Yes but he is a ground pounder, a grunts general. How often have we heard that these sorts are cut out in favor of the polished political general.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a pacifist. I was a Goldwater Republican because of his war hawk ways.

I am not particularly anti-war - - - but, I am anti-stupid.

If I actually thought this was a strategic move by "amateur" Trump, I might think differently about the whole thing.

What about those who voted for Gary Johnson?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Logarock

Too bad we couldn't have John Kerry...who served in Vietnam.
HE was the erudite political diplomat whom managed to negotiate Assad to destroy 100% of Syria's chemical weapons, donchaknow.

Nope... that was me.

See for yourself

Apparently Kerry, Putin and Assad read ATS.

No fan of Trump, I think he's an idiot and a conman but am open to the possibility there are forces at work here manipulating events to force him to react in a way that supports their geopolitical interests so he can take the fall for all of it.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Dark Ghost

I frankly don't give a damn about dead Syrians one way or the other, bomb Assad for gaming his own, don't bomb Assad for gassing his own, it matters not to me... but whatever actions this country makes had better make fiscal sense AND only involve US boots on Syrian soil if our intent is to rain down fire and brimstone to win a war, not some ridiculous loser strategy of "winning hearts and minds."[/quote
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That "loser strategy" you refer to of "winning hearts and minds" was quite effectively employed by Alexander the Great who conquered much of the known world in his time.

The strength of this strategy is that unles you win the hearts and minds of your opposition, you will be forced to slaughter everyone

Everyone

Who oppose you.

Fighters, yes, but also their families, their friends, their allies. Every man, woman, and child, young and old, rich and poor, any and everyone sick or injured who might survive their affliction.

Because if you do not slaughter them all, one or more of them might just overcome their fear of you, fueled by their resentment and grief over their loss, to learn to hate you.

And that hate easily becomes a thirst for retribution and revenge.

originally posted by: jellyrev

MAP OF OBAMA STRIKES

Hahaha, thank you. I mean, I was a little surprised and a little disappointed. Then I had a snack. If he sinks the Russian frigate, then I'll be concerned.