Trump Healthcare Vote Withdrawn

a reply to: gortex

They had 6 years to figure out a replacement but they instead wasted time attacking Obama. Shocking, I know. Republicans are complete failures and I'm glad their god awful and rushed "healthcare" replacement fell flat on its face.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Just about everybody, actually.

That makes them arseholes. Vote 37 times to repeal something, but not mean it. Use millions of taxpayer dollars, just for fun. Yep..they are ARSE HOLES.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

It took Obama and the uniparty seven years to create this monster.

Actually, the ACA was passed by Congress in Obama's first year.

Yet was not signed into law until 2010.

And provisions have been slowly phased in continuously for the past 7 years.

a reply to: carewemust

Got them re-elected.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Yet was not signed into law until 2010.

Right. Surprising that Obama signed it, huh?

And provisions have been slowly phased in continuously for the past 7 years.

Yes, as specified in the law.

Now it's time for the Senate Republicans to whither up and die, when big bad Chuck Schumer and his UNITED Democrat colleagues Filibuster Supreme Court nominee Gorsuch.

This is one of the few policy positions where I don't agree 100% with Trump.

Obamacare should be allowed to fail. Once it does, that failure should be added to the rest of the failed Obama era and hung firmly around the necks of the leftists who forced that abomination upon us in the first place.

And then we should follow the Constitution and let the states decide what's best for them. If the Fed's want to give them block grants and provide basic oversight, that's fine, but the Constitution does not give the Federal government the authority to provide healthcare.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

I loved these when I was a kid. I can sing the preamble of the constitution to this day.

🎶💋 We the people..

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

I loved these when I was a kid. I can sing the preamble of the constitution to this day.

🎶💋 We the people..

Too bad you only believe in it when it suits you and your beliefs? I am quite certain our founders didn't want it to be bipartisan!

a reply to: Phage

My theory is that the GOP was and is still operating as an opposition party. They never expected to sweep all three branches and have no idea how to lead. The gravy train was in just saying "no" to everything the Dems did or wanted to do.

Wow, Trumps SA troops on ATS?

If you call the Orange One(not a lie!)greatest clown of them all(not a lie!) CLOTUS, Clown of the United States, and call him a good comedian(not a lie!), this happens:

(post by DerBeobachter removed for political trolling and baiting)

That´s what i call free speech....

originally posted by: SBMcG
This is one of the few policy positions where I don't agree 100% with Trump.

Obamacare should be allowed to fail. Once it does, that failure should be added to the rest of the failed Obama era and hung firmly around the necks of the leftists who forced that abomination upon us in the first place.

And then we should follow the Constitution and let the states decide what's best for them. If the Fed's want to give them block grants and provide basic oversight, that's fine, but the Constitution does not give the Federal government the authority to provide healthcare.

I agree letting a lot of things fail, like big banks and anything that takes government subsidies like oil and coal companies. If they don't have a viable working business model they should fail.

However healthcare is different...that's life and death or banktruptcy for millions of people. The only reason we have Obamacare in the first place is because millions of americans were dying or going banktrupt because of skyrocketing healthcare that they couldn't afford.

Throughout the past several decades we've let healthcare, and health insurance get out of hand. Health costs are so expensive that no normal human being can afford healthcare without insurance. And many of us have a hard time affording it even with health insurance. We definitely need some kind of solution.

Is your solution to let everyone that makes less than a certain ammount of money (not sure the number but it's probably in the hundreds of thousands) a year declare bankruptcy or die? That would appear to be a weird stance. Most of us make considerably less than $100,000 a year. Not enough to afford medical care without insurance. And we're not talking about hand outs since I've been paying for insurance for decades! I pay a lot of taxes.

So......What promises has he managed to deliver on to date?

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: Phage

My theory is that the GOP was and is still operating as an opposition party. They never expected to sweep all three branches and have no idea how to lead. The gravy train was in just saying "no" to everything the Dems did or wanted to do.

Agreed! Controlled opposition....Keep us dimwits who have the mental capacity of 3 year olds to believe in them thus giving them control over us all.......2 wings same bird!

a reply to: Swills

We barely dodged a bullet though.
Maybe get a panel that includes lawyers, insurance companies,and health organizations to weigh in.

Regulating health care costs is a good start. Limiting law suits against the industry would help.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Well ATS isn't mentioned in the part about protecting your right to free speech from government interference so...

originally posted by: blackrabbit1
So......What promises has he managed to deliver on to date?

I think he got rid of TTP if I am not mistaken, which is a good thing.. IMO.
#StillnoloveforTrump.

a reply to: amazing

My opinion, based upon the Constitution, is that healthcare should be completely up to the states. I'm not interested in the argument about what should or shouldn't be in a "perfect world" environment.

This country cannot afford to pay for everyone's health insurance because about 50% of the people in this nation -- mostly liberals, don't pay any taxes at all. If taxes were raised in an effort to try and provide universal coverage, the drop in capital investment and economic activity would send this country and probably the whole world into a depression.

However, if a state like Massachusetts, which under Mitt Romney did pass a plan similar to Ryancare wants to do so, that's fine with me. Under the 10th Amendment they are perfectly within their Constitutional rights to do that.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: gortex

It's worse than that. Cowards without a brain is what Republicans are proving themselves to be!

All they had to do is allow healthy people to buy whatever policy they wanted, and let all the unhealthy and/or poorer people jump into Medicare, or Medicaid. 100 pages of legislation would do it.

Republicans make the Democratic party led by Schumer and Pelosi look UNITED and STRONG!

And what do you do when states won't expand Medicaid, such as the current situation?

a reply to: Spider879

He has also kept us safe from terrorist attacks.
Not one since he took office. And he didn't even have to stop people from coming into the country!