Why do you hate the poor?

a reply to: Aazadan

Yeah your right about that. Around here you cannot get a studio apartment for that, or even rent a room with roomates.

a reply to: ClovenSky

Trust me when i tell you that food banks are not the answer.

The people who abuse the system are the very same people responsible for implementing law and rule aka the politicians bankers and the rest of there minions never mind the corporate scum. who manage to dodge there taxes.

originally posted by: Arnie123
Poor is a subjective term. What is poor in the US? I know people on foodstamps with an S7 smartphone, internet and Xbox live.

That just tells us that electronics are cheap.

Compared with the cost of Health insurance for one person for a year an Xbox is nothing. If you have a family?

Our standard of living is great! Now your kids can play video games while they run the daily risk of getting sick and going untreated!!!

Welfare is needed in our society, it helps to get people back on their feet. However, what policy exist that prevents people from getting attached to the nipple? Its really a matter of culture in that regard. A lot of stuff needs to happen to address this.

Eventually, people get fed up they just lump the entire welfare population as one. Terrible, I know.

Except welfare completely fails to achieve that. The moment you get a job you lose your eligibility. If that job barely pays enough to replace your welfare check, then you're just punishing yourself.

If you have kids, and can't be home to care for them, then you only break even if the job pays enough to cover the loss of welfare and leaves enough left over to afford day care.

I only read the op and title...

Stupid American poor...yezz we spit on em

a reply to: wantsome

It is annoying to me also that many people tend to learn something or achieve something and then leave another without any help. You see this in forums mainly for technical help, which really grinds me. You look for help and the replies are from those kinds that deem themselves somewhat above the rest, as if somehow you must spend the time length of time as they have to seek the answers. When you could just, Help.

The world runs off the same mentality that somehow just because someone gained their knowledge, wealth or whatever they are somehow not liable to help another achieve the same. Like, I have the secret now go away! I will keep it until my dying day so no one will achieve what I have therefore, I am king. Those kind of people are fools to their own made up fantasy that others care what they have done, achieved or have.

Just as you post, you can earn a small amount and still be happy. Also you may have or anyone like yourself have more people that truly love you and look up to you then the guy that sits on a Billion lets say.

So many sad people. So few good people.

a reply to: wantsome



I feel bad for the poor and try to help and donate to charities when I am able to, but I have less empathy for the people who create their own bad situations, knowingly. Like you don't have a second child if you cant afford to even take care of yourself. You see a lot of misery that is self inflicted by just throwing caution and consequence to the wind. Stupidity is always rewarded. And then there is a segment of society now that just wants a constant handout without having to work for it at all. These people I have NO sympathy for.

a reply to: wantsome

I don't think most Americans hate poor people. I think the hate is aimed to the people that game the system. We can see it in everyday life. Unfortunately we don't see the big companies doing it directly. Neither example is ok. I was in a store in Wisconsin, a lady in front of me had a huge shopping cart of groceries, all junk food. What stood out most was the case of snickers and case of redbull. She paid in foodstamps, how do I know? The display actually said foodstamps. This was at Woodmans grocery. I don't know about you but I don't think it is right for anyones tax dollars to go to redbull! That is where the anger comes in. People see stuff like that and they are busting their tail for ramen every night. It is easy to be angry at that lady and not the corporations doing it on a much larger scale. I worked for a big pharma company, that is truly the meaning of greed. I morally had a problem working there, but it paid well so most people stayed, I did not!

I wore hand me downs when I was young. I would get a present or two for Christmas. My parents made do with the money that the government paid my Father for his service in WW2. Even wounded in war, my Father did whatever he could to put food on the table, and I was never hungry. We were not poor.

There are people who are poor that cannot do anything about it. Those are the one's that deserve the help. The others that take advantage of the system are the one's that need to be homeless.

a reply to: JAGStorm

IMO there's a lot forgotten when aiming it as the few citizens who play the system and not placing blame on the corporate welfare that is seemingly accepted throughout.
Speaking of Big Pharma(ad not to be off topic but as an example)- "U.S. City Sues OxyContin Maker For Contributing To Opioid Crisis" - Source

a reply to: JAGStorm

Ok, so it's wrong to buy Redbull. What in your opinion is it ok to buy? I don't buy junk food with my food stamps, but it seems like no matter what I buy it's not good enough for someone. Some say I shouldn't buy bottled water, some say I shouldn't get beef, some say vegetables are too good, others argue that buying fresh fruit rather than canned stuff is an unearned luxury. Some say PB&J is the only thing I should get, while others say I should lay off the bread because it's junk food.

So you tell me, what exactly am I supposed to buy?

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: wantsome

From my perspective, it's not just hate for the poor but an orchestrated hate fest directed at minorities, and anything not
Christian.

...That pretty much sums it up especially on this site

a reply to: Aazadan

You should get the #ing lobster, steak and sushi. # them.

Anyone that's keeping up knows they're complete hypocrites and every single one of them in the same circumstances would be eating the #ing lobster.

What pisses me off is they're mad someone gets a $10 lobster or a $10 steak. I'm mad people sell them for drugs, but seriously, you're mad they get something that costs less than $20 and are going back to their cableless/heatless home to eat it? It's the not the small luxuries in life making them poor, it's the fact they're poor. This is like being mad the guy that is paid less than you gets a bonus and you didn't, what a bunch of whiners. Quickest solution become poor and suck up to the government then if that's how it works!(Spoiler: it doesn't)

In reality it's a bunch of entitled 'middle classers' that are pissed they aren't rich, and are more upset they feel poor than anything else and so emasculated by a bum getting a free box of 2/10 sushi, that they demand others don't get things so their feelings aren't so hurt over being a non-famous actor/loser tabloid superstar they imagine themselves as.

originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: wantsome

From my perspective, it's not just hate for the poor but an orchestrated hate fest directed at minorities, and anything not
Christian.

...That pretty much sums it up especially on this site

Yup. It gets garnished in all manner of ways to seem innocent, but we're all capable of reading between the lines. Like the endless barrage of calling Obama 'hussein' which is obviously a Muslim dig, because who gives a # what his name is.

Bottom line is that there will always be people who exploit the system. Whether it's a small amount of people on welfare voluntarily, or whether it's trump smirking at how tax avoidance makes him smart.

We have a moral obligation not to punish people for being poor. We can work on reducing abuse of the system separately. In the UK we have a specific task force responsible for tackling benefit fraud.

And nothing makes me rage more than the cult response of 'LIBERALS SHOULD JUST GET A JOB AND PAY FOR THEIR OWN DERN FOOD AND HEALTHCARE'. Yeah, because it's that simple. What about the millions of conservatives who lost jobs in the rust belt because of industries closing - should they just stop being lazy and get a job?

You can't just magic up jobs. People don't enjoy being made redundant and we shouldn't say 'tough' when they end up bankrupt because their kid gets cancer.

If you're in a stable job, count yourself lucky. I sincerely hope you never need welfare due to factors beyond your control.

a reply to: wantsome

I always wondered what happened to them to get to that point, which is why I never think twice about handing them whatever I have with me. Water or food is my first to go to, I always ask them if they need water for hydration. After that if there is enough time between lights/or while I am waiting in the intersection then if I have food or some type of candy to get some energy from sugar then I hand it over. And as for the question, why do I contribute to them? Simple answer, I will never forget where I come from, and if I can help I will, simple as that, even if it is a dollar, or two, food or water...

Cheers everyone =)

a reply to: wantsome

The country is not ruined because of the poor. its because of the banking cartel. but those in power always blame the lowest denominator in society because they have no voice to shout back with. Social engineering, media etc is used to reinforce these values on mass..

originally posted by: 3daysgone
I wore hand me downs when I was young. I would get a present or two for Christmas. My parents made do with the money that the government paid my Father for his service in WW2. Even wounded in war, my Father did whatever he could to put food on the table, and I was never hungry. We were not poor.

There are people who are poor that cannot do anything about it. Those are the one's that deserve the help. The others that take advantage of the system are the one's that need to be homeless.

No one deserves to be homless in the modern world. there is enough infrastrucruture to house everyboby in the US. Its as simle as that. This is a failure of government and is a disgrace.

a reply to: purplemer

Its even worse when the authorities attempt to fine and gaol our homeless people for no other reason than existing and being on our streets.

originally posted by: wantsome

Capitalism can be rewarding for some but it also seems to foster greed. For some people what they have is never enough. Capitalism has given some people opportunities to get ahead but some think they don't need contribute anything back to society.

Any of the ism's foster greed, because greed is part of human nature. People hoard and many don't know why, but it's primal instinct for survival.

People think that there is not enough abundance in the world, so they are ruled by their primal instinctual fears.

Communism has equaled greed because there were still people at the top living well while dictating to the minions below.

Socialism has equaled greed, again because the law makers live better than the rest.

And so on.

"Poor" seems to be a loaded word, because there are many people with lots of money that are "Poor" in compassion, "Poor" in kindness, and that goes for people without money that lack awareness.

Increased awareness may be the key, however this would directly contradict many peoples ego's so they may never allow the awareness to grow.

You are wrong, not everyone would do the same thing. I started working at 13 years old. There were several times in my life I had three jobs at once. I have been poor, very poor. I was raised in a family that was saw handouts as the most shameful thing a person could do. Maybe i'm old that is antiquated thinking now but it is how I grew up. I'd rather eat a peanut butter and jelly with my own money than lobster, steak or a case of redbull from the government. If you think everyone would do so you must be very young. I've also always said, a government that gives is a government that can take away. (and when that take away comes many will be really hurting) If me working my entire life, putting myself through school without help, and taking care of my own children without any government help makes me entitled then so be it. Call me all the names you want.

a reply to: MacK80

I wish for steak and lobster. I actually can get sushi though, our towns grocery store has a sushi shop in the middle of it, and it's quite cheap I can get things like a 6 piece California Roll for $4 or an order of Gyoza for $5. I can't afford to do that every day since my food budget comes to a little under $7/day, but once every couple weeks is totally doable.

I know the answers to my questions already, I just don't like them. Humans like to rank themselves and compare themselves to others. If they see someone get something for free, no matter how minor it makes them doubt themselves because there's now less of a gap between them and someone else.