Do you really think the moon is a sphere?

a reply to: Phage

Two observers separated by say 1000 miles will see the exact same picture, is that correct?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

I sense a Spherical Image here , or is it just a manipulated 2 Dimensional Image ?

Dear ops

in regards to the moon not changing its perspective from dusk to dawn, look at that picture posted there while turning to the left (sideways glance it..call it dusk). then look directly at it, call that midnight, then look while faced to the right..dawn

the picture doesn't change either, because the picture isn't moving, your head is spinning..now you know how earths rotation works.

btw, how does a FE'er explain differences in moon phases
also
how does a FE'er explain gravity...what is it all on?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

I sense a Spherical Image here , or is it just a manipulated 2 Dimensional Image ?

Believe it or not I believe the I.S.S is going in circles around the planet.

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
In my opinion, you can't know anything is 100% true until you see it for yourself. Not NASA putting out pictures of this or that or via the ISS or anything like that, you, your eyeballs. I haven't been to outer space, so I don't know if the Earth is a square or on top of a giant turtle with a flat moon floating by and I will most likely never know ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I have never seen a polar ice cap personally..but I will accept it is there due to others I find credible saying they are there.

a reply to: SaturnFX

And that's fine. I feel more uncertain about the reality of what's in this alleged universe of ours and maybe that's just me.

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
a reply to: SaturnFX

And that's fine. I feel more uncertain about the reality of what's in this alleged universe of ours and maybe that's just me.

Seen air, have you? Viruses? With your unaided eyes?

Seen voltage in a circuit? Seen a radio wave?

Human senses are pitiful. We augment them in many ways. That you can't see something with your bare eyes is meaningless, because most of the universe falls into that category.

a reply to: pheonix358

I believe this is the coincidence you speak of. The moon and sun 400X

"Believe it or not, it actually is just a coincidence — and a happy one at that. The Moon and Sun have virtually the same angular size in our sky because the Sun is about 400 times wider than the Moon, but it's also about 400 times farther away. This allows us to see spectacular coronal displays and prominences during total solar eclipses. Interestingly, this hasn't always been the case. Tidal interactions cause the Moon to spiral about one inch per year away from Earth."

a reply to: Toolman18

This might help.

Duplicate post

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

Eclipses don't have much to do with tidal locking. But it is true that the Moon is moving away as a result of tidal locking.

That angular size thing? It's not all that exact. In fact, it varies quite a bit.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Phage

He was referring to the moons current distance from the earth to create a perfect eclipse.

The moon is currently tidal locked at a distance where that occurs but it won't always be as it is slowly being pulled out further into space.

One more time for everyone, tidal locking would only give your eyeballs the same view if you would observe it from the same angle every time. A 12 o'clock moon for me would not be the same angle as someone watching it from a different spot. You cannot see the same features when you view a sphere from different angles.

a reply to: Toolman18

A 12 o'clock moon for me would not be the same angle as someone watching it from a different spot. You cannot see the same features when you view a sphere from different angles.

That's true.
But the thing is, the moon is (about) 250,000 miles away. So, you tell me, how much more of the Moon should someone see in San Francisco as opposed to New York? How many degrees? The math is pretty simple. Have you done it?

By the way, have you seen this? It's a demonstration of lunar libration.

originally posted by: Toolman18
A tidally locked sphere will give us the same features if viewed at the same angle everytime but it's not possible to see the same features when viewed from multiple angles. When I watch the moon set from my house, someone in Australia is watching it rise but we both see the same features.

I don't think I can say the earth is flat with 100% certainty, but I can say the moon is not a sphere.

You've got multiple confounders to your simplistic assumption set.

And the biggest one is that the Moon is about 250,000 miles away. And it's only about 2000 miles in diameter. So you're not going to get a lot of difference from one side of the Earth to the other, since you can't get but about 8000 miles of separation from one side of the Earth to the other, on a fairly small object a quarter million miles away.

However, you're right, the view is very slightly different depending on your location on Earth. This has been known essentially forever. But the distance to the Moon means this effect is small to the point that you wouldn't notice it without a telescope and some very detailed photos.

Some guy tried to do this to scale, I haven't measured it for accuracy -



The tidal locking of the Moon isn't 100%. And it's in an elliptical orbit. Thus, you get a good bit of motion called lunar libration. You don't notice THAT with the naked eye either, because it's slow and your memory isn't good at making detailed visual comparisons. But I offer this queasy-making video:

a reply to: Phage

Jinx!

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

He was referring to the moons current distance from the earth to create a perfect eclipse.

No, he never mentioned an eclipse.
But, as I pointed out, a perfect eclipse is a rarity, in the extreme. Actually most eclipses are annular.

a reply to: Phage

Yes, yes, yes. I never should have used the word perfect. I read your numbers.

I guess I need my jump to conclusions mat.

a reply to: Toolman18

I believe it's because of the distances involved, your never going to see the other side because it's angle to the earth never changes, and because it's so far away your not going to somehow get around to another side.

The center point of the moon( from our perspective) is always perpendicular to the earth.

The problem is people don't understand the scale involved in this system, and flat earthers have a tendency to ask questions that have already been answered, ignore the answer because they don't understand it, and just keep asking the question. The irony is that the flat earth theory has no answers, just repetitive questions about science they don't (and refuse to)understand.

a reply to: Toolman18

Well there you go, two people have explained it very well to you, even with visual demonstrations.

Do you understand now? Or will your rebuttal be "nasa lies, ball earth propaganda, and fish eye lenses!!!"

Well what generates our gravity then?
Is the ionosphere just a parallel Line above us?
Idles the moon glow from its own light at night? What happens in the article when it becomes 40 days of darkness.
Ugh... I could go on all day