Is Stevie Wonder actually blind?

originally posted by: Bleeeeep

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
But instead of eyes, it's the "feelers" in your body that provide a tension with the things around you.

I'm always interested in sensory perception, could you tell us more about "feelers" and "tension"?

When you're not aware, it starts as a mental message which triggers a kind of movie, it's a visual, audible, or feeling cinematic. It seems instantaneous. If you don't reflect on it, the reflex follows immediately.

If you are aware, it's a constant state of the same thing, but the mind cinematic isn't reality - it just somehow converts into the proper real response. Think of it as an animation you can feel - but feel means like an emotion, not like a touch. And the emotion is the language the book is written in. Unless you know the language, you'd dismiss it as environmental clutter.

originally posted by: HushedNoLonger
a reply to: six67seven

Thank you for TRYING to bring some laughs to the good people of ATS. I really enjoyed it. Too bad some of us can't lighten up a little! They either didn't read OP AT ALL, or completely lack a sense of humour. Sad...

Anyway, I get what you were trying to do and I appreciated it!

Trolling is for 4chan. Not appreciated here.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

I'm entitled to my opinion. You are entitled to yours.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

What is it that you're listening with?

And if I understood you correctly, you're building a sort of "3 dimensional tension map" in your spatial memory from the feeling of tension?

originally posted by: HushedNoLonger
a reply to: TarzanBeta

I'm entitled to my opinion. You are entitled to yours.

You're not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to the facts. Opinion is an abused luxury; by myself included. ATS doesn't allow trolling in the General Conspiracies forum. You're hurting the OP, not helping the OP. Which is of little consequence to me, really.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

I stand by my statement. Is it facts fueling your replies or emotion?

originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: TarzanBeta

What is it that you're listening with?

And if I understood you correctly, you're building a sort of "3 dimensional tension map" in your spatial memory from the feeling of tension?

Kind of?

I see with all my senses. I hear with all my senses. I feel with all my senses.

If it helps, I have an I.Q. of only 120 in organizational thinking, but in pattern recognition I'm in the 99.9965 percentile. I don't calculate the pattern. It occurs to me through no effort of my own. I behold and then my mind shows me an emotional image. My mistakes in feeling my environment only happen when I choose to reflect or think about it.

When I play chess, if I calculate, I'm struggling. But if I "let go", the game plays for me.

Hmm... Maybe think of it not as a 3D map, but more like an emotional GPS which sometimes translates into a physical map, but if I waste time inspecting that map, I'm more likely to make a mistake - so it's best to simply obey the "mind Google".

a reply to: TarzanBeta

As you input "the will of action" you're getting back varying degrees of emotional tension / sensations?

The five basic senses are taste, sight, smell, hearing, and touch. Sensory information is collected from sensory receptors that are located throughout your body (such as photoreceptor cells in your eyes for vision and taste receptor cells on your tongue for taste) and then sent to the brain where it is processed.

But you can't isolate / identify any sensory receptor(s) as the main source of sensory information?

The one thing Stevie has had in front of him for most of his life is a mic, he new exactly where that mic was. He also knew when Paul ran in front of him and I guarantee he heard Paul's head thump the mic and probably the stand falling too. As a mic moves, the sound being picked up by that mic is also going to change. It may have happened quickly but he's so astutely tuned in to his surroundings, I'm sure it was just instinct to him. I've heard many of mics on there way down to smashing the stage floor in my 39 yrs as a musician and part time sound man.

Here's what Stevie had to say about the incident at the 44 sec mark, LMAO.

originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: TarzanBeta

As you input "the will of action" you're getting back varying degrees of emotional tension / sensations?

The five basic senses are taste, sight, smell, hearing, and touch. Sensory information is collected from sensory receptors that are located throughout your body (such as photoreceptor cells in your eyes for vision and taste receptor cells on your tongue for taste) and then sent to the brain where it is processed.

But you can't isolate / identify any sensory receptor(s) as the main source of sensory information?

My main source of sensory information is emotion.

Everything else finds a way to lie to me.

originally posted by: HushedNoLonger
a reply to: TarzanBeta

I stand by my statement. Is it facts fueling your replies or emotion?

Tests have proven that my emotion discerns facts better than the average objective thinkers can produce them.

Take special note of the word average.

The way in which I arrive to the proper information is actually much more expedient than the way someone who struggles for hours on end arrives to the same conclusions.

Emotion doesn't mean touchy feely. It means an internal movement which is scientifically expressed as electronic within the body and mind.

It dawned on me that what I said is too obvious. I've had an argument with my dad for 20 years now. His argument : "No one does what you do." My argument : "Beside the obvious fact that nobody else is me, no. Everyone does what I do. You just don't realize it."

a reply to: TarzanBeta

That's cool for you! Not sure why I should take your word for it or what it has to do with the topic at hand. Especially since the thread was created as a LIGHTHEARTED discussion to shift the dynamic and intensity of the site when it was created. The only thing the OP did wrong was not post it in the jokes and puns forum which is what it was meant to be. Why do you feel the need to lecture me about whatever it is you are trying to get through to me?

originally posted by: HushedNoLonger
a reply to: TarzanBeta

That's cool for you! Not sure why I should take your word for it or what it has to do with the topic at hand. Especially since the thread was created as a LIGHTHEARTED discussion to shift the dynamic and intensity of the site when it was created. The only thing the OP did wrong was not post it in the jokes and puns forum which is what it was meant to be. Why do you feel the need to lecture me about whatever it is you are trying to get through to me?

Because even Robin Williams knew that wherever his presence was, everyone knew that the environment transformed. But the OP is not Robin Williams. The OP entertained the idea seriously. You, having a mind to know that the OP is wrong, sought within yourself "why" and came to the conclusion, because you're an inclusive individual who must express their opinion while at the same time defend a foolish idea, found it incumbent upon yourself to cushion the anvil on the OP while at the same time providing for your own entertainment.

I can't blame you for any of it except to say that knowing there is YouTube and 4chan and Reddit, there is no need to turn the last vestige of internet rationality into a circus.

I respect your desire for humor and it can be found here in spades.... But it should only ever be accidental.

Not all legally blind people are have 100% total blindeness.
Maybe Stevie wonder can see vague shapes and movement.

originally posted by: Box of Rain
Not all legally blind people are have 100% total blindeness.
Maybe Stevie wonder can see vague shapes and movement.

Maybe. But my blindness only lets me discern shapes that are touching my nose. I can count the lines in my hand if it's touching my face. But I couldn't tell you if there is a square on a table in front of me.

Also, my eyes have turned golden yellow. Whereas before, they were dark brown. That could be something to look for.

If anyone doubts that Stevie Wonder is blind, look up pictures of him over the years. Look at his outfits. There are so many ulgy and ridiculous outfit choices. The dude is blind.

I vaguely remember something from a music bio about him showing up to a release party dressed in a sort of fanciful cowboy outfit. Some of the people in attendance were even upset as they felt it was bad enough to be degrading. The quote that stands out in my mind is 'no way would Ray Charles let somebody do that to him.'

originally posted by: 11andrew34
If anyone doubts that Stevie Wonder is blind, look up pictures of him over the years. Look at his outfits. There are so many ulgy and ridiculous outfit choices. The dude is blind.

I vaguely remember something from a music bio about him showing up to a release party dressed in a sort of fanciful cowboy outfit. Some of the people in attendance were even upset as they felt it was bad enough to be degrading. The quote that stands out in my mind is 'no way would Ray Charles let somebody do that to him.'

I only wish that were a sign. The problem is that entertainers regularly dress like idiots.

a reply to: six67seven
How'd she know she was"lovely" in the song "isn't she lovely"
Or was he just asking his friends hoping she was lovely after they did the nasty

originally posted by: prevenge
a reply to: six67seven
How'd she know she was"lovely" in the song "isn't she lovely"
Or was he just asking his friends hoping she was lovely after they did the nasty

Put your hands on an ugly person. Then put your hands on a beautiful one.

Don't let them talk. Sometimes that will confuse you.