North Korea Watch 2017

The newly passed sanctions should hit NK pretty hard, we'll see if they help deter their nuclear program. 1/3rd of 3 billion is the estimated hit to NK, the strongest sanctions yet. People are quick to say sanctions don't work.. but that's a lot of $$$ to lose.

a reply to: fleabit

I think that won't work. They trade allot with the black market. They will get there stuf and money. There backdoors will be very wide open.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: dianajune

The fact that if we do anything Japan and South Korea get hammered. We aren't in this unilaterally.

I understand that, but if we keep giving out sanctions even though they don't work - we're more likely to be attacked by NK. We can't just let Kim get away with building his nuke program. Sanctions simply gives him more time to fine-tune his weapons.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dianajune


I firmly believe that if North Korea launched a single silo-based ICBM towards the USA, we would have several launches of missile destroying rockets headed towards it.

Personally, I think if Jong launches something towards U.S. interests, it will be a carrier battle-group. Closer/easier for him.

Also, I don't know why REX TILLERSON said last week that the USA is not even desiring of a regime-change in North Korea. I bet Japan and South Korea told him to say that, to keep fat boy from panicking, and launching towards one of those countries.

It would be easier for Kim to attack one of our assets in the region, but that wouldn't stop him from working on other targets at the same time. It seems that the more sanctions we give, the more determined he is to start a war.

We can't just do sanctions all the time and expect him to suddenly change his behavior. Something's got to give. I don't want to see anyone die, but we can't just let him threaten our country and get away with it.

a reply to: dianajune

I heard on the news today that the U.N. just implemented "tough new sanctions" against North Korea. Thanks for reminding me to go find out what they are. From what I gather, it's rare for the U.N. to take action against a nation.

a reply to: dianajune


I see that the 15-nation U.N. sanctions will cost North Korea $1 Billion.
www.theguardian.com...
Is that a drop in the bucket, compared to the size of North Korea's economy? I have no idea.

Also, I heard that CHINA is upset because South Korea has new Anti-Missile batteries installed. Why would China be upset over South Korea defending itself against possible attack?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dianajune


I see that the 15-nation U.N. sanctions will cost North Korea $1 Billion.
www.theguardian.com...
Is that a drop in the bucket, compared to the size of North Korea's economy? I have no idea.

Also, I heard that CHINA is upset because South Korea has new Anti-Missile batteries installed. Why would China be upset over South Korea defending itself against possible attack?

China shouldn' t be upset about THAAD but it is. Check this out:

China has repeatedly stated its opposition to the U.S. Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system and has called for its deployment to stopped, and the missiles already installed to be removed. China says the system's powerful radar can probe deep into its territory, undermining its security and a regional balance while doing nothing to stop North Korea in its relentless pursuit of nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them.

"The U.S. deployment of an advanced anti-missile system in South Korea gravely harms the strategic security interests of China, Russia and other countries in the region," China's state Xinhua news agency cited Xi as saying.

Source

I can't get over how long and drawn-out this conflict has been. Imho sanctions do not work and will only make Kim more angry. I hope I am wrong about this, but it seems to me that he's bent on having war even though it would be suicidal for him to start one.

Anybody who is evil and crazy enough to have countless people murdered - inc. members of his own family - is capable of anything.

It's dangerous to underestimate this guy. We do this to our own peril. I don't want to see NK's neighbors drawn into this war but it's inevitable unless he's taken out.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dianajune


I see that the 15-nation U.N. sanctions will cost North Korea $1 Billion.
www.theguardian.com...
Is that a drop in the bucket, compared to the size of North Korea's economy? I have no idea.

Also, I heard that CHINA is upset because South Korea has new Anti-Missile batteries installed. Why would China be upset over South Korea defending itself against possible attack?

As I said above.. they expect it to reduce their intake by 1/3rd, which is pretty huge. And I don't think black market dealings will even come close to making up for it.

a reply to: carewemust

Because while THAAD is watching for North Korean missiles, it's also looking into China and watching activities they have going on that are in range of the radar.

i was looking on google earth and it is shocking how close the NK towns are, you could almost throw a grenade across the rive in some spots

a reply to: Zaphod58

If we really want to look in China we don't need the Thaad system. We have our Birdseye in the sky. So why so upset China. We see what we want to see.

a reply to: Zaphod58

If we really want to look in China we don't need the Thaad system. We have our Birdseye in the sky. So why so upset China. We see what we want to see.

Looks like things just got a bit closer to war here


North Korea threatens 'thousands-fold' revenge on US over sanctions

The country's top diplomat, Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho, said his country had no intention of using nuclear weapons against any country "except the US".

In a speech at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Manila, Philippines, he said North Korea is "ready to teach the US a severe lesson with is nuclear strategic force" and added that Pyongyang had already demonstrated the "entire US mainland is in our firing range".

news.sky.com...

originally posted by: northwestuk
Looks like things just got a bit closer to war here


North Korea threatens 'thousands-fold' revenge on US over sanctions

The country's top diplomat, Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho, said his country had no intention of using nuclear weapons against any country "except the US".

In a speech at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Manila, Philippines, he said North Korea is "ready to teach the US a severe lesson with is nuclear strategic force" and added that Pyongyang had already demonstrated the "entire US mainland is in our firing range".

news.sky.com...

This comes as no surprise. Kim wants war. And judging by how things have transpired over the past few days it appears as though he is most likely to get one.

Here's a good video that was put up a few minutes ago:

that video sent chills up my spine because his threats now seem so real and not so far off

a reply to: northwestuk

Didn't chill me, quite the opposite. In the video it quotes North Korea as saying that they will retaliate if any military action is taken against them. Seems fair enough. Also, why should they give up their nuclear programme at anyone's behest? They have a point regards Libya. Nuclear weapons are the only things that keep the dogs of war at bay.

originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: northwestuk

Also, why should they give up their nuclear programme at anyone's behest? They have a point regards Libya.

Thanks Obama.

NK seems prepared for another ICBM test

Referring to photographs posted on Aug. 11 on 38 North, a U.S. website specializing in North Korea analysis, Joseph Bermudez, a North Korea specialist, claimed that they could indicate preparations for a new test of a submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM).

Well they sure as sugar aren't curbed by the extra sanctions are they?

a reply to: auroraaus

Sanctions don't work immediately. Most really take effect several months after they're put in place.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It's going to be a pretty intense few months :S