North Korea Watch 2017

a reply to: midicon

Don't mistake realpolitik for morality.

There is a difference and the world runs off the former not the latter.

The U.N voted for more sanctions in response to the nuclear test.

The United Nations has imposed a fresh round of sanctions on North Korea after its sixth and largest nuclear test.

www.bbc.com...


And as usual....

A statement on state news agency KNCA warned that if the US did eventually push through harsher sanctions, North Korea would "absolutely make sure that the US pays due price".

originally posted by: kamatty
The U.N voted for more sanctions in response to the nuclear test.

The United Nations has imposed a fresh round of sanctions on North Korea after its sixth and largest nuclear test.

www.bbc.com...


And as usual....

A statement on state news agency KNCA warned that if the US did eventually push through harsher sanctions, North Korea would "absolutely make sure that the US pays due price".

However, the watered down sanctions are a serious victory to the Kim regime as they are no different than any other sanction ever placed in this, or previous Nork regimes. It does absolutely nothing but makes people feel like they did something but nothing to the Norks economically.

a reply to: Bearack

North Korea are still not happy and have threatened america with

the "greatest pain" it has ever suffered following new sanctions imposed by the United Nations.

im not a trump hater (no im not a nazi either) however he has allowed himself to be made a fool of by North Korea, these "watered down" sancations are all the us can do, North Korea knows it as does the rest of the world (apart from america)

a reply to: kamatty

Question -
Would you rather see watered down sanctions or no sanctions at all?

Contrary to popular belief Russia and China both have veto powers. Design sanctions that appeals to everyone or dont have sanctions.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: kamatty

Question -
Would you rather see watered down sanctions or no sanctions at all?

Contrary to popular belief Russia and China both have veto powers. Design sanctions that appeals to everyone or dont have sanctions.

I'd rather see peace. Its not going to happen but thats what I would like.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: kamatty

Question -
Would you rather see watered down sanctions or no sanctions at all?

Contrary to popular belief Russia and China both have veto powers. Design sanctions that appeals to everyone or dont have sanctions.

Good point. The United Nations is not the United States.

It feels as if Obama is still in the White House. He kept looking the other way with respect to North Korea's nuke program. Which, btw, benefited from Iran's nuke program. Trump is just as bad.

It's better to deal with North Korea now, rather than after they nuke or emp us. Sanctions never have and never will work with North Korea. EVER.

It's time for military action. I don't like war any more than anyone else. But it's either us or them.

Imho there would be more casualties should North Korea be allowed to run amok.

What a pity the idiots in DC can't get it right. Either they are totally clueless, or worse yet - totally don't give a crap what happens to our country.

Stupid is as stupid does. That may sound harsh but this is how I really feel.

I am not sure why people keep saying sanctions are pointless and don't do anything. This latest round of sanctions cuts oil exports, textiles, helps prevent smuggling, etc. Watered down are things like.. not allowing boarding of vessels etc. As long as countries involved in the sanctions actually honor them (no guarantee there, but they "seem" on board at this point), over time, they will have a clear impact on their economy. Not saying it will make the problem go away, but lack of oil alone doesn't help their nuclear program.

It's time for military action. I don't like war any more than anyone else. But it's either us or them.

South Koreans like the thought of war a whole lot less than you. I guess it's easy for some U.S. citizens to say "Oh well.. guess it's war, looks some people will have to die!", when it's not your friends and family. South Korea could literally lose from 10s of thousands to even a hundred thousand + people to a war. We've had literally 0 people die due to the actions of North Korea. Rhetoric and saber-rattling is not grounds to basically sentence 50.. 80 thousand innocents to death.

Also haven't heard a single response to the question: if we attack first, China has said it will defend NK. What do we do about that? You want to go to war with both NK and China?

a reply to: dianajune

Consider the possibility that our world is run by a globalist cabal.

If the U.S. were hit by a thermonuclear bomb (or more than one), that would create masses of U.S. refugees and force the borders to open in the Western Hemisphere.

Perhaps the narrative that Trump is a nationalist is just a ruse to detract from the fact that he is really a globalist leading us to a situation like the above, along with Kim Jong-Un.

And if we responded by launching thermonuclear weapons at NK (or China as fleabit mentioned), we would see a massive refugee situation in Asia, as well.

Seems to me, the globalists would love for this situation to get as bad as it can get...

...provided they have their safe spaces. And I am sure they do.

Kim will get his stuff, his money. Underground and black markets will provide him whatever he wants. Sanctions will not work. What is his reserve? And i think there are countries in his depth. Iran, Venezuela maybe more than we know. I could even imagine ISIS. See the bigger picture in this. Who won't US out? That's a long list.

originally posted by: ni91ck
Kim will get his stuff, his money. Underground and black markets will provide him whatever he wants. Sanctions will not work. What is his reserve? And i think there are countries in his depth. Iran, Venezuela maybe more than we know. I could even imagine ISIS. See the bigger picture in this. Who won't US out? That's a long list.

I don't think he will get 1 or 1.5 billion from black market trade. Or even if he does, the revenue lost to sanctions is lost.. it still reduces their intake from no matter what source. I don't think he is "raking in" as money as people think he is.

Well this is just dandy.

North Korea has threatened to conduct their biggest hydrogen bomb test ever in the Pacific Ocean because Trump threatened to destroy NK. Schoolyard fight yo, but with nukes! Fair dinkum!

NK says highest level actions may be H-bomb in pacific

NEW YORK, Sept. 21 (Yonhap) -- North Korea may conduct the most powerful test of a hydrogen bomb in the Pacific Ocean in its possible "highest-level" actions against the United States, the North's top diplomat said Thursday.

Now - Kim Jong-Un has released a statement in response to Trump's threat :

KCNA mirror link - Search for statement in supreme leader's activities

The speech made by the U.S. president in his maiden address on the UN arena in the prevailing serious circumstances, in which the situation on the Korean peninsula has been rendered tense as never before and is inching closer to a touch-and-go state, is arousing worldwide concern.

Shaping the general idea of what he would say, I expected he would make stereo-typed, prepared remarks a little different from what he used to utter in his office on the spur of the moment as he had to speak on the world's biggest official diplomatic stage.

But, far from making remarks of any persuasive power that can be viewed to be helpful to defusing tension, he made unprecedented rude nonsense one has never heard from any of his predecessors.

A frightened dog barks louder.

I'd like to advise Trump to exercise prudence in selecting words and to be considerate of whom he speaks to when making a speech in front of the world.

The mentally deranged behavior of the U.S. president openly expressing on the UN arena the unethical will to "totally destroy" a sovereign state, beyond the boundary of threats of regime change or overturn of social system, makes even those with normal thinking faculty think about discretion and composure.

His remarks remind me of such words as "political layman" and "political heretic" which were in vogue in reference to Trump during his presidential election campaign.

After taking office Trump has rendered the world restless through threats and blackmail against all countries in the world. He is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of a country, and he is surely a rogue and a gangster fond of playing with fire, rather than a politician.

His remarks which described the U.S. option through straightforward expression of his will have convinced me, rather than frightening or stopping me, that the path I chose is correct and that it is the one I have to follow to the last.

Now that Trump has denied the existence of and insulted me and my country in front of the eyes of the world and made the most ferocious declaration of a war in history that he would destroy the DPRK, we will consider with seriousness exercising of a corresponding, highest level of hard-line countermeasure in history.

Action is the best option in treating the dotard who, hard of hearing, is uttering only what he wants to say.

As a man representing the DPRK and on behalf of the dignity and honor of my state and people and on my own, I will make the man holding the prerogative of the supreme command in the U.S. pay dearly for his speech calling for totally destroying the DPRK.

This is not a rhetorical expression loved by Trump. I am now thinking hard about what response he could have expected when he allowed such eccentric words to trip off his tongue.

Whatever Trump might have expected, he will face results beyond his expectation. I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U. S. dotard with fire.

I have to say, I am quite in awe of this statement - It's the kind of rhetoric you would find in history books between world leaders of old.

Apparently China is considering cutting ties with N. Korea. Fox is reporting that N. Korea is planning to test hydrogen bomb in the Pacific. It got real warm in here.


N. Korea Atlantic Nuclear Test


auroraaus, you beat me to it !!

So where was Fatty Kim at the United Nations? He sent some ministers to blare some bla bla bla. We sent world leaders there. Fatty sh#t his pants to come himself and make a statement. Even NK tv you only see pyamagirl?

Friday, October 6, 2017

This might be what will trigger "the storm" that President Trump alluded to yesterday...

MOSCOW (Reuters) - North Korea is preparing to test a long-range missile which it believes can reach the west coast of the United States, a Russian lawmaker just returned from a visit to Pyongyang was quoted as saying today.

Anton Morozov, a member of the Russian lower house of parliament’s international affairs committee, and two other Russian lawmakers visited Pyongyang on Oct. 2-6, Russia’s RIA news agency reported.

“They are preparing for new tests of a long-range missile. They even gave us mathematical calculations that they believe prove that their missile can hit the west coast of the United States,” RIA quoted Morozov as saying.

“As far as we understand, they intend to launch one more long-range missile in the near future. And in general, their mood is rather belligerent.”

Source: www.reuters.com...

Man arrested for placing explosive, memo near Kaesong

HAMYANG, South Korea, Oct. 7 (Yonhap) -- Police said Saturday they arrested a man who allegedly placed what appears to be an explosive device at a rest stop on a highway with a message calling for providing electricity to a now-shuttered joint industrial park.
A 41-year-old man, only identified by his surname Suh, is suspected of putting what seems to be an improvised explosive device made with a cluster of 10 gas canisters in a public restroom, according to police. Also was found a memo threatening to explode Korean Air, South Korea's biggest carrier if electricity is not supplied to the Kaesong Industrial Complex by 0ct. 20. Police said that Suh told an employee at the rest stop that he discovered the device and message.

If you go to the article page, the gas canisters appear to be aerosol cans bound together.

Obviously amateur, no doubt there's underlying mental issues, if not, it's bound to shake some rattled public nerves. Or go out as a sign for terror attacks or provocateurs.

Two B-1 bombers conducted firing drill with 2 f-15k fighters over the korean peninsula.

Let's hope it doesn't anger the Dear Leader.

Reuters
Yonhap

11-27-2017

North Korea is playing with their radio signals...toying with us.

Japan has detected radio signals suggesting North Korea may be preparing for another ballistic missile launch, although such signals are not unusual and satellite images did not show fresh activity, a Japanese government source said on Tuesday.

Source: www.cnbc.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
11-27-2017

North Korea is playing with their radio signals...toying with us.

Japan has detected radio signals suggesting North Korea may be preparing for another ballistic missile launch, although such signals are not unusual and satellite images did not show fresh activity, a Japanese government source said on Tuesday.

Source: www.cnbc.com...

Just breaking so no information yet but it looks lile.they just fired another ballistic missile

www.bbc.com...