North Korea Watch 2017

Published on Jul 30, 2017

SEE US B-1B LANCERS FLY OVER SOUTH KOREA IN RESPONSE TO NORTH KOREA'S ICBM LAUNCH

U.S. bombers took off from Andersen Air Force Base in Guam, then flew to Japanese airspace, where they were joined by two Koku Jieitai (Japan Air Self Defense Force) F-2 fighter jets.

The B-1s then flew over the Korean Peninsula, where they were joined by four F-15 fighter jets from the South Korean air force.

The latest North Korean missile appears to have failed just before impact. The reentry vehicle was being tracked on camera when it suddenly faded just before it hit the ground. This is either an indication they put a lightweight reentry vehicle on to prevent it from being recovered, or it broke apart before impact.

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a reply to: Zaphod58

A commercial airliner flew past the location where North Korea's recent intercontinental ballistic missile would land in the Sea of Japan less than 10 minutes later, according to a U.S. official.

Flight data from the time of the ICBM's landing on Friday indicates that the aircraft that was potentially in danger was Air France flight 293, traveling from Tokyo to Paris with 323 people on board.

The plane's flight path shows the Boeing 777 traveling west of Hokkaido as the North Korean ICBM was airborne.

ABCnews.com, Aug. 1, 2017 - Jet passed within 10 minutes of where North Korean missile test landed, official says.

See this?! Yikes! Ten minutes is a little too close.

IDK. Not much seems to bother the regime. You figure for somebody who spends so much time spouting propaganda would actually care about how the world views him? *smh*

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

That's the big danger with their launches. They don't tell anyone so they can't issue a NOTAM to be aware.

a reply to: Zaphod58
ohh man, knowing Japan's history, I may have said a few prayers after seeing that were I happen to be there. Interesting views from Hokkaido.

a reply to: ni91ck

Who is to blame?

How about the guy the orders the trigger pulled? Or the lanyard? Or presses the launch button?

No one is going to order him, force him, assuming NoKo launches an attack out of some suicidal urge to conquer the world...no one.

There is no provocation so severe as to warrant launching a nuclear strike on someone...outside of an actual attack on you with real bombs and tanks, etc... The US and South Korea are not going to do this at this late stage of the game. If they were, they'd have done it years ago when it would have remained a conventional, if bloody, war.

The US attack? Why? What is there to gain? An ally that will surely be mauled, another will almost certainly be hit, and hit hard... While I don't think China will come in on the side of North Korea, that's what we thought the first time, isn't it? The US gains nothing here, not one thing will be better after another conflagration on the Korean Peninsula.

Eventually the North Korean people will do something about it. No amount of propaganda is going to hide the face of famine, or another one. No would be God-king mantra will drown out the cries of your hungry baby lying in his crib, while watching a pudgy little despot strut around. Anger will come. Right now, they're--the North Korean people--scared...eventually it'll turn to anger. With anger will come change. South Korea, if they're smart, will be preparing for this. Learn the lessons that Germany learned and is still learning after Re-unification, then do it better.

a reply to: Zaphod58

That's just asking for trouble.

I don't get it (NK's mind set).

There are boats down there too. That rooftop camera footage would make me nervous. They've had issues on other launches one day the thing will fly off course. Japan has already asked for first strike response. They have to know all this or is it a wrong assumption?

I know in the end they don't care as long as they get a missile. This is truly "alien" to my way of thinking. I'm having troubles fully grasping what is being accomplished here.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: Zaphod58

A commercial airliner flew past the location where North Korea's recent intercontinental ballistic missile would land in the Sea of Japan less than 10 minutes later, according to a U.S. official.

Flight data from the time of the ICBM's landing on Friday indicates that the aircraft that was potentially in danger was Air France flight 293, traveling from Tokyo to Paris with 323 people on board.

The plane's flight path shows the Boeing 777 traveling west of Hokkaido as the North Korean ICBM was airborne.

ABCnews.com, Aug. 1, 2017 - Jet passed within 10 minutes of where North Korean missile test landed, official says.

See this?! Yikes! Ten minutes is a little too close.

IDK. Not much seems to bother the regime. You figure for somebody who spends so much time spouting propaganda would actually care about how the world views him? *smh*

Blimey! Could you imagine? After MH17!

FYI...it appears that North Korea may have a HIDDEN ICBM missile silo that the USA doesn't know about.

A top missile analyst says the ICBMs North Korea shows off may be propaganda that has fooled experts and the military.

The real ICBM program may be a hidden silo-based missile, which would be much more dangerous.

Source Article: www.businessinsider.com...

It's good to see an analysis that isn't citing unnamed, or anonymous sources.

a reply to: carewemust

If this is correct, then it is very important that we act before North Korea does.

Why the wait? I don't understand what's taking the Trump Administration so long to neutralize this threat. And to date they haven't retaliated for the murder of Otto Warmbier.

Just what is Trump waiting for? An invite? I understand he just started a vacation of over 2 weeks. Do we have to wait until after that before anything is done?

a reply to: dianajune

The fact that if we do anything Japan and South Korea get hammered. We aren't in this unilaterally.

a reply to: dianajune


I firmly believe that if North Korea launched a single silo-based ICBM towards the USA, we would have several launches of missile destroying rockets headed towards it.

Personally, I think if Jong launches something towards U.S. interests, it will be a carrier battle-group. Closer/easier for him.

Also, I don't know why REX TILLERSON said last week that the USA is not even desiring of a regime-change in North Korea. I bet Japan and South Korea told him to say that, to keep fat boy from panicking, and launching towards one of those countries.

a reply to: Zaphod58

The fact that if we do anything Japan and South Korea get hammered. We aren't in this unilaterally.

You think we could get China to at least get them to issue a warning before they launch? I don't think North Korea even wants to start the war back up accidentally, but then again, it isn't a rational regime.

If one of their missiles hit a plane or helicopter or ship or something it'd be a little more than an international incident.

It sucks when good people get sucked into BS.

a reply to: gpols

I doubt it. China is having their own problems with North Korea over the last few years. Their relationship is radically different than it was the first time around.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I'd imagine NK is also aware enough to know that being irrational makes them that much more dangerous. All we can really do is hope they keep failing and falling into the sea.

Do we have any ships with antimissile defenses? Think we could get away with shooting one of their missiles out the sky?

originally posted by: gpols
a reply to: Zaphod58

Do we have any ships with antimissile defenses? Think we could get away with shooting one of their missiles out the sky?

That would be a great idea for testing our ships' crew's readiness for quick action, and interception!

But if we miss, our intercepting missile(s) could come down on a populated area. Imagine the condemnation that would follow.

a reply to: gpols

They're actually not failing. They're being very smart about their tests. If they fired them in a normal trajectory, it would give away a lot of performance data that we could put to good use. So what they're doing is firing them up, and getting their data that way.

The reentry vehicle in the last one appears to have failed, but they might have used a lightweight vehicle to ensure it would break apart and we couldn't recover it.

We have ships in Japan, including some Japanese ships that have the BMD system that can stop medium range missiles, as well as THAAD. Nothing that can stop their ICBMs in the region though.

a reply to: carewemust

They self destruct if they miss, and would be fired towards open water.

a reply to: carewemust

Can't we detonate the missile before it splashes down?

ETA:

Zaphod58 answered it.

a reply to: Zaphod58

They self destruct if they miss, and would be fired towards open water.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Almost seems to me the best option would to fan the flames between NK and China. If we could get China to stop putting up with their crap I think then something could be worked out with NK.