'Space federation'

EarthSpider,

after reading all the posts, I must tell you.....Peace and Joy to you. I have had similar experiences with PSI and "waking visions".

Regards,

A.P.O.T.T.

I know i should probably let this thread fade away but im gonna try to revive it.

Is there anyone out there with and similar experiences toward a council or (staying with the topic heading) federation? And of course if the others that have already contributed to this thread have anyhting more to add please do so as i have enjoyed reading your posts so far.

thank you all for taking the time in reading this.

Here's my two cents

Civilizations don't develop the required technological advancement to travel between worlds overnight. We have been on this planet for thousand of years and yet can barely get into a high earth orbit. Therefore any civilization capable of interstellar travel will have had to temper its technological growth with wisdom and tact, and not destroyed itself in the process.

You hand us humans atomic bombs and we start little cold wars and threaten each other with them, kind of like handing two kids a pair of plastic swords, watch the bravado fly! -- Technology takes discipline to use correctly.

The distances between solar systems is quite huge, and the chances of each one supporting life are small to say the least. Therefore the administrative and logistical burden of maintaining such an alliance would be absolutely huge.

Communications? Why havent our vast array of listening telescopes seen or heard some of the crosstalk between this burgeoning alliance of advanced worlds?

Simply put, in my personal opinion the odds are vastly against such a possibility.

Originally posted by Benton

Communications? Why havent our vast array of listening telescopes seen or heard some of the crosstalk between this burgeoning alliance of advanced worlds?

What makes you think they haven't heard it? And what makes you think they would tell you if they did?

Our govt has control of that information and control of who gets it and control of what it looks like to you if you do happen to get it. No matter what common humans see and hear of alien life, the govt determines what you will believe about it.

Anyway, the alien races do not communicate through our human means. What the govt gets of it going by is accidental. When the alien races tell the govts something, it is direct and clear as a bell. The govts just deny it to you.

(by govt, I mean secret govt, not the whole govt.)

Originally posted by EarthSister

Originally posted by Benton

Communications? Why havent our vast array of listening telescopes seen or heard some of the crosstalk between this burgeoning alliance of advanced worlds?

What makes you think they haven't heard it? And what makes you think they would tell you if they did?

Our govt has control of that information and control of who gets it and control of what it looks like to you if you do happen to get it. No matter what common humans see and hear of alien life, the govt determines what you will believe about it.

Anyway, the alien races do not communicate through our human means. What the govt gets of it going by is accidental. When the alien races tell the govts something, it is direct and clear as a bell. The govts just deny it to you.

(by govt, I mean secret govt, not the whole govt.)

The government aren't the only people with access to radio equipment and telescopes, what of the people who work at observatories, non military personnell. If high up officers in the RAF can leak secrets, so can a few boffins at radio observatories. SETI @ Home also, I don't think they would be silenced by the government.

Tho, If I remember right my brother's little holiday trip to America has been shortlisted down to a few states, MA being one of them, MT at the moment being the favourite though because hes as fond of the cold as he is of anything else lol. Living here you can understand that.

If we end up near Northwood although the chances are against it, I'd love to hear about some Alien and UFO related stuff. Although it scares the hell outta me I do enjoy it.

Benton

You would be astounded to learn the abilities and affect of the secret govt on human thought and belief, though not to say that I know the extent of method either. I have witnessed just enough myself by my own experience with alien life and with govt to have an idea its reach being far beyond what any uninformed person would ever suspect.

Hidden, silenced, twisted, disguised, etc. It is very easy to discredit any information and/or any individual. It happens all of the time in all subjects of govt secrecy. Even when the virtual population of the modern world views the defiantly available authentic videos of alien crafts, the population still believes about them what they are professionally taught and led to believe by govt. The population is handheld and as easy to lead and mislead as little children.

If you get to Norwood MA and would like to meet with Jack and me about our work with the alien races, send me an email and we will arrange it. Otherwise, I am always available to answer questions on line.

Originally posted by wyatt43
hi everyone this migh seem a bit a a noob question but is there a 'force' or 'resistance' that protects the earth from hostile extra terrestials?

And also if extra terrestrials are all different as all humans are why doesnt one of them create a 'federation' which is part human and part extra-terrestrial?

I know i would want to join.... wouldnt you?

Nibiru is the 4th dimensional flagship of the Milky Way Galaxy’s Galactic Federation. Like Pelegai, many different civilizations have representatives that live aboard it. As well as being a Federation Flagship, Nibiru is also a planet and a battle star. Nibiru is a little over three times the size of earth.

Nibiru was originally a planet that was thrown out of orbit with the implosion/explosion of Sirius B. It wound up in the Pleiades and therefore is known to some as a Pleiadian planet.

Nibiru became a starship when it was converted from a near lifeless form, hollowed out and turned into a ship. You could liken it in some ways to the space station on the TV show called Deep Space Nine. The only difference is that Nibiru travels the galaxy. That is why the people live inside of it instead of on the surface. Another reason is that it was created for deep space travel where there would be no sun for many years. In a way, you could say that it is an artificial planet. Only the shell is original.

Nibiru is a battle star because it was outfitted for war with ships and heavy weapons. When negotiations fail Nibiru is capable of waging war to defend itself against attack. It also uses these same weapons to defend planets and races against attack when authorized to do so. /6fdqt
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GALACTIC FEDERATION FLEETS
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Surrounding this first, or inner ring are several spokes that consist of a number of special liaison and defense fleets. Their purpose is, first, to supervise and, then, to take effective countermeasures whenever necessary. Our purpose is to refuse your secret government continued use of any weaponry that may pose a threat to our earthly allies. We have set up interplanetary 'stations' to close any inter-dimensional star-gates and to carefully monitor any artificially created distortions in time's natural waves. Here, bear in mind that physicality is actually an illusion created by its inhabitants' collective core belief and the dictates of the divine plan. In this, natural patterns occur in the way Time and Light coalesce to form 'space' — the stuff that produces realities. Dark, limited-conscious societies have used these natural patterns to construct fearsome weapons that alter realities, mutate dimensions and warp or constrict the flow of time. Your secret government has co-opted the work of many of your inventors and scientists, and merged it with a number of off-world technologies.

Other secret government technologies are capable of altering your physical, mental and emotional bodies. Their vile purpose is to bring about the eventual control of your minds. Then, they can complete the genetic alterations left undone by the fall of Atlantis some 13 millennia ago. Our mission is to neutralize and prevent any large-scale adoptions of these technologies. Every day, Heaven is working to finish, on schedule, the long process that will return you to full consciousness. Once again, we put on warning those in your secret government who continue to harbor the belief that they can hinder this sacred operation. We WILL NOT tolerate such attempts. Accordingly, we have established a full team of scientists and corresponding liaisons who are on the lookout for these programs and are then limiting their effectiveness. Properly applied, these technologies can substantially assist what Heaven is creating. Dear Friends, we most sincerely welcome a full disclosure of the covert acts, committed during most of Earth's last two centuries, that have hindered your return to full consciousness.

im not sure what to make about that website, to be honest i think it could be... well a hoax. To me, at least, the concept doesnt seem plausible.

Im not sure if benten realised that ES was talking about Empathy or not... well i guess if he/she didnt they will now lol.

i have no idea why im just blabering on for

I for one, will not take what Earthsister says with a pinch of salt.


if anyone has contact with E.T.
THIS is the first place your likely to hear of it, NOT the 6:00 news.

I am somewhat supprised of the lack of claims of e.t. contact on here.
not because its a common thing, Because its not

but because lots of people claim to have had these experiances when in fact they haven't,

but not on this fine board.
maybe 1or 2 but they just make 3-4 posts then disapeer of the face of the earth.



as for why Earthsister hasent any photos,
OMG if Ihad a pound coin for every time I kicked myself for not having my camera on me ....s - h - i - t -.

I've seen E.T craft with the naked Eye as clear as day, and I have no proof...plus I am one who almost always carries my camera/corder on me.
but not that time...
soddin 3f2 alien nob suckers ...get you next time.


the only thing I don't understand about E.T contactees Is how the aliens always spreak fluent english? that throws me a bit..

you know what I'm sayin?


[edit on 13-11-2005 by TrentReznor]

but not that time...
soddin 3f2 alien nob suckers ...get you next time.

That made me laugh - especially since I remember you being so serious when you filmed that speck of dust on your kitchen window

Looking forward to seeing what you make of that other Galactic Federation ES - haven't seen you post for awhile so welcome back

TrentReznor

as for why Earthsister hasent any photos,
OMG if Ihad a pound coin for every time I kicked myself for not having my camera on me ....

Thank you for sticking up for me and other alien experiencers. There are reasons for everything that happens whether we recognize this or not, or recognize the reasons or not.

True, if more people carried cameras, we would have more available photos and videos of alien crafts. But as for the alien people themselves, they do not allow their personal contacts to have these photos, which are more than a little difficult to capture anyway. They also do not usually allow their personal contacts to have photos of their crafts. This is for our own protection from other humans inside and outside of the ufo field, especially govt.

The photos are evidence, but evidence of what exactly? They do not "prove" anything absolutely true "in other humans' minds" anyway. The photos are used instead to prove something else, and something against the one who has them. This is highly commonplace among humans due to the nature of human thought and manipulation, and counterproductive to the true purpose of the sighting and contact.

Also, as a rule, when you see the alien people or their crafts, they have planned it. They already know whether you are carrying a camera, and maybe it is among the purpose for you to get a photo, and maybe it is among the purpose for you not to get one. Those who capture photos are supposed to, and those who don't are not supposed to. The alien races are diligent and alert and very well organized. They are completely careful and goal oriented. The goal is "true" awareness of humans, and nothing less than "true" won't do. They can show up when you have a camera, and if you get a shot you shouldn't have, they can sabotage the film.

My husband and I have seen our alien contacts and their crafts hundreds of times. They have made it clear to us from the beginning of our contact that we are not to have photos. If we pulled out a camera anyway, they would as quickly become invisible.

the only thing I don't understand about E.T contactees Is how the aliens always spreak fluent english? that throws me a bit..

The alien races have contact with humans all over our world. They have studied our languages for their work at Earth. They learn very fast. Their intelligence and abilities are far advanced and evolved.

Nova

Looking forward to seeing what you make of that other Galactic Federation ES - haven't seen you post for awhile so welcome back

Hi, Nova. Thank you for the welcome back.

Based on my own experience with the organizations of races, I don't recognize any original authenticity to the information on the aforementioned site. A little of it happens to be somewhat accurate, that I can see, but the inaccurate embellishments making up the bulk of it grossly oppose what I know to be true and expose the integrity of the whole and its source, to me.

No disrespect to anyone intended.

I've seen plenty of stuff, ships I mean. I've been abducted. Heard all kinds of stuff. But have yet to actually see an alien except possibly one that disappeared on me when I was 19 and knew nothing about aliens. I have never heard anything about a galactic federation. But if star trek talks about it there must be something to it. If Billy Meier talks about it then there may be something to it also. I have not read this entire thread. Could someone tell me what Billy Meier may have said, or not said, about a galactic federation?

The Galactic Federation of Worlds

The Galactic Federation of Worlds (GF) is a large federation of civilizations from many different planets, galaxies and universes working together for the harmonious existence of all life. There is a galactic federation in each of the inhabited galaxies of our universe. These federations are part of the universal management structure much like field offices are part of the management structure for a large corporation.

The Galactic Federation for the Milkway Galaxy is called the Galactic Federation of Worlds, but some of the races represented in our GF may call it by other names, hence the difference in the names given by the Zetas, Andromedans, etc.

Each race, civilization, and planet has a council within the GF to represent them. These councils vary in size depending on population as well as the amount responsibilities they carry within the management structure of the GF. There are literally thousands of these councils since there that many races represented. The GF is much larger than we may imagine.
The GF has one major overseeing council which has representatives from each member council. This council meets in the Great Hall. But each council has its own Great Hall. Perhaps this is why there is so much confusion around this Great Hall business. Many channelers attend meetings in the Great Hall and think there is only one, when in fact, it could be the Great Hall of one of the member races or civilizations. You see how quickly it gets all complicated.

The Nibiruan Council the largest of these councils, has its own Great Hall but also meets in the GF’s Great Hall more often than not because its duties involve GF management. Nibiru is not a planet with one civilization, instead it is a GF starship with representatives from many races whose role is that of a traveling galactic management team. Their mission is to help negotiate alliances and maintain peace among the different worlds of the GF and assist new and incoming members. Hence their slogan, “Serving the Worlds.”

The GF for our Milky Way galaxy is located in the Sirius star system. Our sun is a stargate to that system, and the GF. That is why the dog star Sirius is so important to Earth and plays a significant role in our history.

In the bible it is said that the anti christ's armies would come from rahab aka wormwood aka nibiru and it is also said that satan is the prince and power of air.Do you think that the galactic federation is the anti christ and are you a christen?

I can see both points of view here. I know what it is like to be persecuted as Earth Sister has. I can not even go out in public anymore without people making sure that everybody there should be aware that I'm a crazy nut and should stay away from me. And a lot worse. I'm supposedly a child molestor though I've never molested a child. Whatever makes a person look like the most evil person that ever existed is the kind of label that gets stuck on me. And they do seem to follow me around but in acutality it is because they have so circulated their rumors that now people who should be total strangers have all heard about me or seen my picture. I can't go outside anymore in my own yard without the next door neighbor calling someone over to her house so that they can take a look at me. On the other hand, I can see how people could want to protect others from someone who pushes such beliefs onto other people. It has been my experience though that such people as spider do not tell the truth. I myself do not push my beliefs onto anybody. I do not go to a church (anymore). I am not a public figure of any kind. I don't spread literature. I don't bring up the subject of aliens or abductions in public to anybody. Yet people like spider make me look like I do all these things when I don't and use that as a justification to harrass me. They actually eavesdrop on me and spread all my words around and make it appear that I am talking to them and trying to force my opinions on others when the reality is I want absolutely nothing to do with them. They are making it so that we can not talk about these kinds of things with anybody, at least not without them knowing about it. What it boils down to is that they are trying to control us and if they hear something that makes any kind of sense to them they want to steal it from us.

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I had to also learn the hard rosd through this world we live in today. Through trial and error, I try and state my theiors not on fact, but on what I believe to be possible. To state as fact, only bring you up for a big contraversial debate in it's worst form. I agree, you must be very careful wa you state to know and have a much credible thoery to back up your statment. That is way I mayself thry to also add (IMHO) or (Just my theory) into most of my posts.
Now, as for a space federation goes. Hey, if it is for the good of mankind. Count me in. I probably will never have enough money to join. But heck, I can dream can't it.

PS: Earth sister is write in saying. We all should be carring a camera around with us. I know I do. Under the front seat of my car......LOL

[edit on 14-11-2005 by SkyChild_5]

To me, I just like to have a place where I can annonymously talk about such things. I'm willing to sound just as crazy as necessary so that people won't take me seriously and all the people who want to put that crazy lable on me can be happy. I give people an out. I don't try to force myself onto others. I'm not one of those who tries to force his beliefs and will upon others and can never be told he is wrong and then after he gets everything his way says, "Oh well, if I'm wrong Jesus will forgive me" or "its what is in my heart that counts", or, "if I'm wrong I'll just repent before I die and be forgiven". I am a responsible person and speak about such things on the internet only. If you don't like what I say because you are afraid of what damage it may do to your child then keep y our child off the internet.

It has been my experience though that such people as spider do not tell the truth...Yet people like spider make me look like I do all these things when I don't and use that as a justification to harrass me.

Now first off grasshopper, I would like you to post a quote from me where I do not tell the truth. I have never claimed anything on this sight as fact that I couldn't back up (i think).

I have never said I am something I am not nor have I ever been harsh with someone for no reason.

I also don't recall randomly attacking you at anytime on this site, but if I have please post it if only for my benefit.

Now, just because I've been sitting nice and quiet doesn't mean it gives you the right to come after me with no provacation.

So let me give you some.

I know what it is like to be persecuted as Earth Sister has. I can not even go out in public anymore without people making sure that everybody there should be aware that I'm a crazy nut and should stay away from me. And a lot worse. I'm supposedly a child molestor though I've never molested a child. Whatever makes a person look like the most evil person that ever existed is the kind of label that gets stuck on me. And they do seem to follow me around but in acutality it is because they have so circulated their rumors that now people who should be total strangers have all heard about me or seen my picture. I can't go outside anymore in my own yard without the next door neighbor calling someone over to her house so that they can take a look at me.

Now of course since I don't know you I feel giving you the benefit of the doubt is warranted and I certainly would think being falsely accused of such a heinous crime could be very stressful to say the least. Having said that of course and to make sure I don't spread any lies I would like to ask you the following questions:

1) Are you sure this is really happening or is it possible that perhaps most of it may be in your head?

2) Have you ever been diagnosed with a psychological disorder?

3) If so, what were you diagnosed with?

4) Are you currently in therapy now, if so have you been prescribed any medications by your therapist?

5) If you have currently or previously been prescribed medication are you actually taking them?

6) Why do these people think you are a pedophile when you've nover molested a child?

I understand that these are very personal questions of course so I honestly don't want you to feel any pressure to answer these. Having said that, it is anonymous so it's not like anyone knows who you are.

If you do decide to answer the questions please be honest, again the anonymity thing.

They actually eavesdrop on me and spread all my words around and make it appear that I am talking to them and trying to force my opinions on others when the reality is I want absolutely nothing to do with them. They are making it so that we can not talk about these kinds of things with anybody, at least not without them knowing about it. What it boils down to is that they are trying to control us and if they hear something that makes any kind of sense to them they want to steal it from us.

If you are going to claim people like me (i assume you didn't mean me specifically) are spying and eavesdropping on you, you should probably back that up with some proof. Just saying.

If we're out to get you why would we steal your ideas. It would seem that if my job were to make you appear nuts disseminating the information would be counter productive to that end.

I'm willing to sound just as crazy as necessary so that people won't take me seriously and all the people who want to put that crazy lable on me can be happy.

Well it certainly is a plan you've been able to make work, I'll give you that. Though in my experience, making people think you're crazy doesn't really help the paranormal field gain acceptance so you may want to rethink this plan.

Just a suggestion of course.

I'm also more than willing to get into it with earthsister again as I've been reading the posts and have some interesting rebuttals and questions but I promised some moderators I'd behave. But if anyones interested let me know and I'd be happy to post my questions regarding the veracity of these claims.

Spiderj