Disclosure by DeLonge & Levenda, Sekret Machines: Gods (Volume 1 of Gods, Man & War)

a reply to: Phage

Maybe but not always. There's a coffee shop in downtown Knoxville that has a cinnamon roll that looks just like Mother Theresa. I'm agnostic and even I see it so maybe what he sees really looks like a mushroom cloud or antenna.

a reply to: Michet

No no no this is not a Jesus in the toast thing



After the bowl fell BY ITSELF from my kitchen cabinet, the crack in the dish resembled an Antenna and a nuclear bomb mushroom cloud. A very symmetrical letter Y.


I got the bowl which overtime cracked in half. I took a picture but can’t get it on the pc from the phone. I will soon show it when I get my other phone

a reply to: Willtell

I am getting curious, I thought you were making fun of us here

Just finished the book and the 'vibe' I'm getting from it is we humans are trapped sentient beings/possessed animals where the combination of these 2 still causes (inner) conflict. Not sure what to think of it, but if anyone likes to chime in on this ...

Now I must say I enjoyed the book, but perhaps I was expecting a bit more, though I've learned a lot of new concepts from it being relatively new to this type of material.

Curious to see where they will go next...

originally posted by: SacredLore
a reply to: Willtell

I am getting curious, I thought you were making fun of us here

No I'm very serious. I'm sitting at the very desk typing this where all of a sudden, maybe a year or so ago, two dishes ALL BY THEMSELVES flew out of my kitchen cabinet!

This is NO JOKE.

It may sound ridiculous BUT IT HAPPEND as I described it.

I was researching this guy Corso.

The crack in the dish (of course the dishes are going to crack) was a symmetrical figure looking like an antenna or mushroom cloud...A letter Y with a top on it...

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: SacredLore
a reply to: Willtell

I am getting curious, I thought you were making fun of us here

No I'm very serious. I'm sitting at the very desk typing this where all of a sudden, maybe a year or so ago, two dishes ALL BY THEMSELVES flew out of my kitchen cabinet!

This is NO JOKE.

It may sound ridiculous BUT IT HAPPEND as I described

I don't bother talking about my experiences, but just to let you know, poltergeist activity is quite common with this phenomenon, at least it has been for me.

originally posted by: BullwinkleKicksButt

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: SacredLore
a reply to: Willtell

I am getting curious, I thought you were making fun of us here

No I'm very serious. I'm sitting at the very desk typing this where all of a sudden, maybe a year or so ago, two dishes ALL BY THEMSELVES flew out of my kitchen cabinet!

This is NO JOKE.

It may sound ridiculous BUT IT HAPPEND as I described

I don't bother talking about my experiences, but just to let you know, poltergeist activity is quite common with this phenomenon, at least it has been for me.

I could tell a lot more but it’s not good for the ego to relay ones own legitimate occult or spiritual experiences unless for a good reason, so I agree with you generally.

Any occult or spiritual experience one has is for yourself it’s not recommended to always tell others if its based on: gee whiz look what happened to me.


But this I put in the not so serious category( I could be wrong of course and alien Joe number one may be right in my living room) so I told about it, no big thing, experiences far more strange, Ill say, I’ve had that I won’t tell about…their more personally vital to spiritual development.


I agree that poltergeist is a possibility but also Jinn activity or other occult realities are a possibility, as well.

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: BullwinkleKicksButt

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: SacredLore
a reply to: Willtell

I am getting curious, I thought you were making fun of us here

No I'm very serious. I'm sitting at the very desk typing this where all of a sudden, maybe a year or so ago, two dishes ALL BY THEMSELVES flew out of my kitchen cabinet!

This is NO JOKE.

It may sound ridiculous BUT IT HAPPEND as I described

I don't bother talking about my experiences, but just to let you know, poltergeist activity is quite common with this phenomenon, at least it has been for me.

I could tell a lot more but it’s not good for the ego to relay ones own legitimate occult or spiritual experiences unless for a good reason, so I agree with you generally.

Any occult or spiritual experience one has is for yourself it’s not recommended to always tell others if its based on: gee whiz look what happened to me.


I agree that poltergeist is a possibility but also Jinn activity or other occult realities are a possibility, as well.

I used the word poltergeist only to describe the activity that occurs I don't assume to know what it is or trying to suggest anything else.
It could be some sought of alternate dimension opening. I have no idea what it is other than it occurs.

All I was saying was, yes I also experience this, so I don't think you are necessarily imagining this or going crazy.

a reply to: Willtell

Although socially even less accepted than UFOs, the afterlife, ghosts etc. are factual in my opinion. If honest scientific research would address these subjects, it could bring about a better understanding of what we really are and help getting our civilization on a less destructive course. OBEs would be a good starting point for research.

I hope you will manage to upload your pictures.

As opposed to the Sekret Machines project, I still believe that UFOs are principally physical machines. Maybe some aspects of the Phenomenon require a better understanding of what a soul is and what it is capable of. But the thing that interests me most about UFOs is the technical and scientific side. Convincing a materialist that he is a soul that will continue to exist when his body dies is an impossible challenge. But taking him for a spin in a machine that uses gravitation-cancelling technology might be doable :-)

For people interested in Poltergeist phenomena, I would like to repeat something I wrote early in this thread:

I have wondered whether DeLonge's book Strange Times, The Ghost in the Girl is also part of the disclosure series. It is an easy and totally hilarious read, highly recommended for entertainment. It is all about ghosts and just very briefly hints at the subject of UFOs. Maybe this book wants to introduce the general public to the idea that disembodied entities are real.

a reply to: SacredLore

I think you will find the more credible ufo/et experiencers, experience all types of paranormal phenomena in their home after their initial "et" experience.
It's not a separate phenomena, they are some how linked.

a reply to: BullwinkleKicksButt

I have not studied a lot of UFO experience cases personally, but if it is true that both phenomena are linked, then maybe the approach taken by the Sekret Machines project is very wise.

It is so heart breaking to see so many white knights of TDL and Levenda.

700 pages and it says nothing.
Aliens real?
Where they from?
What do they want?

It is disrespectful and borderline a CON to make money by milking the UFO community. This is obviously a good 4 or 5 years worth if employment and meal ticket for Levenda making books that rehash old #. And now they want to start branding th8ngs like "phenomenon". NO. We dont need new terms. We need the effin truth.

Stop talking about demons and particles and cults ffs.
I dont need ppl saying.. "oh.. we simpathise but some people make dogma decitions to.." NO ONE that doesnt care about ufos will by this book.

All we want is the truth. What is real, what is not. This circle yerk has to end. How many people have to die for the damn truth to be told.

Rant over.

a reply to: SPACEBURRITO

" I can feel your anger
it makes you stronger ,
gives you focus "
- Palpatine

How many people have to die for the damn truth to be told.

" truth will out "

Finished this book. Not that impressed. Although it was better than The 37th Parallel by Ben Mezrich which is the worst UFO book ever written.

Here is a new article on the Rolling Stone website.

A quote:

DeLonge and his team are careful, though, to emphasize that their theories are only that. "People have been spending 70 years trying to prove it's real, and if you're waiting for the government to do it, good luck," says Levanda.

Rolling Stone article

Saving mankind might also have been mentioned. Apparently through non-disclosure. The idea, as I read it, is to act as if it's real, but not waiting for any government to spill any beans.

What do we need beans for, anyhow, when we have all these straws to grasp at.

BT

a reply to: beetee

errrrr, did he just debunk himself?

a reply to: zazzafrazz

lol

I am quite ready to give up on what to read into all these conflicting statements.

I think we now have "theories", without governent providing any evidence, but still government affiliated people advising about what to theorize about. To save mankind.

It's getting pretty close to "42" in my book...

BT

Increasingly people like DeLonge and Dan Smith and Stephen Greer are sounding like apocalyptic cult leaders.

a reply to: beetee

Back on page 14 , if you wade through that post by Lavenda, it lines up with the Rolling Stone article, just theory. Maybe it is the DoD theory, which should be more informed than most opinions, but who really knows what the source for their opinions are since they wont just come out and tell us in plain English.


Although IMO, there is enough evidence already to know there has been some alien presence here. The real question is how much do we know about them and what they are doing? I just dont see us getting answer to these questions from Tom.

We just don’t know what they (the government) knows. We don’t even know what they don’t know.

So consequently, its clear the main reason they don’t tell us what they know is because they don’t know what the UFOS mean, or are doing.

Of course, we can suspect something…

So they won’t ever do a disclosure without an explanation of WHY.

Also, the religious fundamentalist in the government, and there are a lot of them particularly in the military, think the alien UFO phenomenon is demonic.


So on the outer level, in the east, of our world, we have crazy “ muslim” fanatics messing up the world, and in the western world, we have crazy “christian” fanatics doing secret bad stuff to screw up the world or withhold things that may help fix the world.