2016 ELECTION RESULTS

originally posted by: MartinD28
Reminiscing on that speech, there is one thing I'd love to hear him say directly to the American people. That going forward we should dispense with referring to each other as demographics. No more blacks or hispanics, white uneducated, white college educated, women, gay, lgbtq. No more. I'm sick of it. From now on we're all just Americans. No more dividing us into the little niches we're supposed to be in and stay in. Enough with the labeling it's long fomented stereotypes that just aren't there.

In the wise soothing words of the great Morgan Freeman

It's called identity politics, and it's snakelike.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: RickinVa

LOL.

To think she had the best help, Whitehouse and State Department
covering for her, FBI and DOJ covering for her...

Google, Facebook, Twitter, You Tube censoring for her,
she had all the main stream media in the tank,
cheating for her feeding her questions ahead of time....she had
Correct The Record out in Nazi force, polls were rigged, even
some voting machines defaulting to her. Hollywood drawing her
( only ) crowds...and she still couldn't win!

THAT which you have described, had a powerful impact on me after waking up and discovering that Trump had won. It's either the beginning of something better or just as strongly believed by some, the beginning to an end.

I don't know if this was posted earlier in the thread. I didn't have a chance to come to ATS at all yesterday.

Now that Trump has been elected, does anyone know if he will follow through on his promise to have Hillary prosecuted?

The NYPD has evidence against the Clintons and others re. pedophilia cases, and yet no one has been charged. I understand the DOJ pushed back, but now that the election is over, why won't the NYPD come through with the goods, so to speak?

If Mr. Trump - who I voted for - goes back on his promise I will NOT vote for him next time around....if there is anything left of this country in four years.

Thoughts, ATS? I can't imagine the anger of America's voters - which was clearly evident yesterday - getting worse if Trump decides to let Hillary & Co. get away with their crimes.

originally posted by: dianajune
I don't know if this was posted earlier in the thread. I didn't have a chance to come to ATS at all yesterday.

Even if he followed through on it, the FBI and DOJ would ultimately have to be the ones to decide if she actually committed a crime, which, thus far, unless they re-open the case, have already suggested there is nothing they are willing to charge Hillary Clinton with. Donald himself cant just make up rules to prosecute someone because he doesn't like them.

a reply to: eisegesis

One thing for certain it is the end of The Clinton's in
White House politics. They may continue their "foundation"
at their own peril.

People can be pardoned, corporations no so much.

In related news, Head of House Oversight and Reform
made the news today stating they will not back down
from investigating Hillary's use of a private server,
which includes a perjury investigation.

Jason Chaffetz we will continue the investigation


While some may shrink away, feeling sorry, or apathetic the question
should be asked why not investigate her?

If she can be let off then what becomes of those who face
charges, and prison for lessor offenses?

a reply to: dianajune

I have been thinking about the issue of Hillary and to tell the truth, I will be surprise if he goes after her, I am sure that with a new DOJ secretary it will be easy to appoint a grand jury, it will be no more obstacles, but what if the scandal involves no only democrats in key positions but also republicans? will the parties allow such a downfall of our government?

I wonder.

a reply to: burntheships

No is no over for the Clintons, I have the feeling they will be grooming Their daughter to be in a position of power in due time.

originally posted by: burntheships the question
should be asked why not investigate her?

If she can be let off then what becomes of those who face
charges, and prison for lessor offenses?

That's really the conundrum isn't it? Personally speaking, I think it should be investigated until which time sufficient proof exists to charge her, or to drop it once and for all lacking any real evidence showing intentional wrong-doing.

a reply to: marg6043

Very possible, yes even likely.

It might be a while before she is hardened enough,
weighing by the wikileaks emails where she wanted
to keep tabs on the corruption, while paying for her
own life and wedding from the Foundation slush fund.

She fits right in, but her ambitions to stem corruption
would be a real dead weight in the Crime family tradition.

a reply to: burntheships

She is young and altruistic, she will change as she gets older and get more seasoned on the ways for politics.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

That's really the conundrum isn't it?

It is in the world of intelligence and national security,
and most assuredly in the military.

Either we are a nation of laws, or we are not.

It would a shameful day when were too tired out
from someones craftiness to take them to task.

Self serving enrichment must not rule the halls.

originally posted by: burntheships


Either we are a nation of laws, or we are not.

You know, funny you say that. Early in my military career I was very idealistic (not all of which have I lost) and I used to think in that capacity, people were worth fighting for. As I developed some years in the service, I changed that mindset to reflect really what I believed, that the country, the collective representative values that the USA as a brand stood for, was really what my dedication was about.

The people come and go. The crooks come and go. The genuine people come and go. But the values should never flippantly come and go. They should always be a staple of what it is we should be embracing everytime we look at that flag. I think for reasons like this, even those punks like Kaepernik who (with a HUGE eyeroll embedded somewhere in here) "refuse to stand for the National Anthem because 'they be makin a point'" really gets under my skin, because in my eyes they're not challenging the establishment, but that staple. Everything in my core that I believe in.

So, yes we are a NATION of laws we just don't have a people of laws.

It would a shameful day when were too tired out
from someones craftiness to take them to task.

Self serving enrichment must not rule the halls.

Agree. No, it must not.

originally posted by: alphabetaone


The people come and go. The crooks come and go. The genuine people come and go. But the values should never flippantly come and go. They should always be a staple of what it is we should be embracing everytime we look at that flag.

Very well spoken, and in keeping with our longstanding republic.

In the longest run, we are only as good as the men and women
who are the fabric of the nation; woven between the strands of
one nation, justice and liberty for all.

A lot of people think Trump stole the election

Not sure if it's been posted:

imgur.com...

Even more red than state by state.

originally posted by: RockerMike
A lot of people think Trump stole the election

A lot of people also thought that Credit Default Swaps were a good idea too...

originally posted by: JetBlackStare
Not sure if it's been posted:

imgur.com...

Even more red than state by state.

Isnt she claiming popular vote though?

a reply to: alphabetaone


She did. But cities are weighted due to population density. 95% of the rest of the country didn't want her. THIS is why we have an Electoral College.

This is also why we have to stop thinking in terms of black, white, young, old. There are two Americas but it's more rural/urban. This is also why the pollsters and media got it wrong. They were polling and reporting from their ivory towers, located in big cities, completely out of touch.

originally posted by: JetBlackStare
a reply to: alphabetaone


She did. But cities are weighted due to population density. 95% of the rest of the country didn't want her. THIS is why we have an Electoral College.

This is also why we have to stop thinking in terms of black, white, young, old. There are two Americas but it's more rural/urban. This is also why the pollsters and media got it wrong. They were polling and reporting from their ivory towers, located in big cities, completely out of touch.

I don't disagree with you. But the image you posted is of the Electoral map. She is claiming she has won the popular vote, she isn't challenging the electoral results. To which, she would be correct on by about 200k votes.

So it seems that it is The Mainstream Media that is holding up
the Michigan results rightly going to Trump.

When asked why media outlets have not called Michigan
for Trump Secretary of State spokesman Fred Woodhams
said "You would have to ask the media outlets that question".

Suspect reporting is coming from Politico and Detroit Free Press.

Actual vote count is 13,107 more votes for Trump, not being a close
enough margin to trigger a recount.

When Michigan is called, and Arizona this will give Trump
306 electoral votes. Add New Hampshire for Clinton this
will give her 232.

CNN is projecting Trump will will the popular vote also.

www.breitbart.com... -win/