Why and How PUTIN’S RUSSIA IS BACKING DONALD TRUMP

a reply to: Tempter

Better question, WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT TRUMPS MESSAGE WON?

I decided to take this one question and think it over and answer it.

I see full well that his "message" won. It won all of the most base and crass and tasteless and sycophantic and xenophobic and misogynist voters. It did. Indeed, it did. And you all are still giggling about it.

Bernie had the same message "Drain the swamp and throw the oligarchs out!". But he would have taken it beyond the 1% charade. He would have shunned all of the Wall Streeters and CEOs and moguls, and not given them even a whisper of a breath of attention.

He would have fought for all of us. He would have helped us save ourselves.

But no. You all wanted Mr Glitz. Mr Muscle. Mr "screw them!"

And now you are getting him (a rich guy) hiring a bunch of other rich guys, who do the same sort of pillaging and raping of the middle class that he does.

How are you OKAY WITH THAT MESSAGE?

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Tempter

I accept that he won. Now I'm watching what he's doing. And it's even worse than him winning.

WHY CAN'T YOU SEE HOW LAME HE IS AND HOW STUPID IT WAS TO VOTE FOR HIM?

Well, considering he's not POTUS yet I'll reserve my judgment until after his first two years.

Also, my stocks are soaring due to the "Trump Rally". How are yours doing?

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Tempter

I accept that he won. Now I'm watching what he's doing. And it's even worse than him winning.

WHY CAN'T YOU SEE HOW LAME HE IS AND HOW STUPID IT WAS TO VOTE FOR HIM?

Well, considering he's not POTUS yet I'll reserve my judgment until after his first two years.

Also, my stocks are soaring due to the "Trump Rally". How are yours doing?

Well riding a wave of anti-establishment/anti-banks/wall street and then throwing it all out the window by inviting all the big names into your administration might be the reason investors are not as worried now.

a reply to: Tempter

Why are you assuming I am fortunate enough to be in your "class"? Most people can't afford to have "stocks". Just remember that. People who are living check to check, or paying off student debt, don't get to play with Wall Street. People who have no benefits don't get a 401k with matching pledges.

They don't get sick days, either. Or paid vacations. They might not even get a minimum wage anymore here in a while....

but your stocks are "soaring"!

You should be ashamed of yourself crowing about it right about now.

Incredible, so much vitriol, because mad woman Hillary didn't won the elections, she is as rich and with more corruption behind her money than Trump but hell lets forget her scandals and dirty acts because she is not the president.

ATS boards are crying vitriol.

a reply to: marg6043

This isn't about Hillary, marg.
Stay on topic.

originally posted by: Nikola014
This is ridiculous

HEY!!! Wait just a minute here......

when you first posted this, you were in Slovenia, or Serbia, or Estonia, or some other former Soviet State.

NOW you're in Yugoslavia?
I call BS. Russian propaganda.
Yet, you were the very FIRST to claim this was ridiculous!

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I'll vouch for my friend. Nik is a Serb who dreams of a re-united Yugoslavia.

If Putin is trying to destroy Hillary....the enemy of my enemy is my friend. For now.

I won't pretend any of them are nice people. Nor will I pretend that Putin really is relevant to the US at this point in time. But if he were....im not fan of Uncle Sam, either. And if he can help break him, maybe The People can be there to put it all back together.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Tempter

Better question, WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT TRUMPS MESSAGE WON?

I decided to take this one question and think it over and answer it.

I see full well that his "message" won. It won all of the most base and crass and tasteless and sycophantic and xenophobic and misogynist voters. It did. Indeed, it did. And you all are still giggling about it.

Bernie had the same message "Drain the swamp and throw the oligarchs out!". But he would have taken it beyond the 1% charade. He would have shunned all of the Wall Streeters and CEOs and moguls, and not given them even a whisper of a breath of attention.

He would have fought for all of us. He would have helped us save ourselves.

But no. You all wanted Mr Glitz. Mr Muscle. Mr "screw them!"

And now you are getting him (a rich guy) hiring a bunch of other rich guys, who do the same sort of pillaging and raping of the middle class that he does.

How are you OKAY WITH THAT MESSAGE?

Wait, did you just blame Trump for Bernie losing out to Hillary?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I see full well that his "message" won. It won all of the most base and crass and tasteless and sycophantic and xenophobic and misogynist voters. It did. Indeed, it did. And you all are still giggling about it.

So you are another person who sincerely wants Trump to be a two term president based upon your words here.
I do hope you will learn that this was a direct attack against that line of thinking whereas someone who does not fall into your line of thinking is any of the ridiculous terms you've listed above.

Your perception that you and/or your party is better ethically or morally is laughable. Bernie had some great ideas but lacked the fortitude to hold them. He threw it away and his backers with it.

This is out this morning. I know you all will just laugh and say it's fake.

But I wanted to add it here just for the point of keeping up with the narrative.

Also - there's an interesting article on The Atlantic website about how Russia kills off dissidents....poison is their main thing. They have a lab (Kamera) where they make poison delivery systems and are very very good at it. Long article about how awful the Kremlin and KCB are. Putin is NOT A GOOD GUY.

Anyway - here is what is being reported on NBC News this morning:

U.S. Officials: Putin Personally Involved in U.S. Election Hack

Yep. Personally. Says it started as a "vendetta" against Clinton, who Putin dislikes (detests!) because of her attitude about Russia. Then he got all excited directing the leakages and orchestrating the whole thing.

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U.S. intelligence officials now believe with "a high level of confidence" that Russian President Vladimir Putin became personally involved in the covert Russian campaign to interfere in the U.S. presidential election, senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

Putin's objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a "vendetta" against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to "split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn't depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore," the official said.

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Ultimately, the CIA has assessed, the Russian government wanted to elect Donald Trump. The FBI and other agencies don't fully endorse that view, but few officials would dispute that the Russian operation was intended to harm Clinton's candidacy by leaking embarrassing emails about Democrats.

The latest intelligence said to show Putin's involvement goes much further than the information the U.S. was relying on in October, when all 17 intelligence agencies signed onto a statement attributing the Democratic National Committee hack to Russia.

The statement said officials believed that "only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities." That was an intelligence judgment based on an understanding of the Russian system of government, which Putin controls with absolute authority.

Now the U.S has solid information tying Putin to the operation, the intelligence officials say. Their use of the term "high confidence" implies that the intelligence is nearly incontrovertible.

Just gonna leave that here, for you all to get upset about. Because real news and facts are upsetting.

Meanwhile, back across the pond: Trump meeting with the Tech Giants (whose combined corporate wealth outstrips the GDP of the UK and India!) and they're all hunky dory. Rich people openly ruling America. Oligarchy. Welcome to Russia, western annex. (Palin can see Russia from her house!)

oh, and here's this gem:

Hawaii's Electors Join Effort to Get Intelligence Report on Russian Involvement
by PHIL HELSEL and THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Hawaii's four presidential electors have joined others in asking for more information about alleged Russian hacking of U.S. political institutions to sway the election before casting their ballots next week.

In a statement late Tuesday, the four Democratic electors asked President Barack Obama for the Central Intelligence Agency report into the cyber-attacks.

"The information contained in the report is essential to carrying out our constitutional obligation of casting our vote in an election that is free from tampering from outside entities," the statement said.

BTW, do any of you deniers-of-reality hold office as an official Elector? Who has to vote next week?






yeah, didn't think so. Thank God for small favors. Let's just hope no one on this site is one of those people who will bring down our entire country because they're too stubborn and willfully ignorant to pause for a moment's reflection on what damage you will do. You and the other 530 people who don't give a toss that Russia has invaded us.

Stay tuned! Only four more years of this! (It makes the "birther" crap look like kindergarten crap.....which you all eagerly embraced. And is crap. And now here's the next big REAL thing, and you still deny it. Just FYI: Delusional sociopaths tend to do that. Just saying.)

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

My favorite part:

Two senior officials with direct access to the information say

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

My favorite part:

Two senior officials with direct access to the information say

Why is that your favorite part?

Oh right - because then you can say IT'S FAKE!

Yeah. yawn.

Do you have ANY other tricks in your act? At all? Because - I am all out of FTG about WYS.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Spies working for U.S. Allies you say? Sounds impressive and very 1940's no?

Could you tell me how a bunch of democratic electors in already claimed democratic states are going to change the electoral college?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Spies working for U.S. Allies you say? Sounds impressive and very 1940's no?

Could you tell me how a bunch of democratic electors in already claimed democratic states are going to change the electoral college?

They aren't.

That doesn't change the fact that SPIES and HACKERS are KNOWN to have been involved in this.

So, your golden boy will be potus. And all of his oligarch and Russian cronies right along with him.
All heil.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

He's Americas golden boy, and also I don't remember which stage of grief acceptance is but kudos to you!

There is a war going on Buzzy, of that I have zero doubt. Odd thing is, we the public are the last to know. Happen to hear about the Yahoo hack the MSM reported yesterday? That happened 3 years ago.

He will be POTUS and instead of fretting about it, we ALL need to be keen on exactly WTF is going on.

a reply to: JinMI

There is a war going on Buzzy, of that I have zero doubt.

Cool.

Glad to hear that you are in agreement with what I've been saying for years now. Clear back with "Arab Spring."

You all like to pretend like I'm a shrew without a clue, but in reality, I've been trying and saying this all along.

So...now: PAY ATTENTION! Get off your glittery float and watch what's happening on the ground and in the alleyways and lobbies and upper-floor conference rooms...........

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I was going to leave this alone but since you chose to edit in an insult......

I feel you should practice what you preach. Stop placing blame and work going forward instead of spitting out a victim card every time there is an opening.

Your worried about Russia but not a peep on Saudi Arabia? Your political blindness and bias is showing.

Now I'm going to hop on my dragon and fly away.

FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election


Washington Post. Yes, it leans left, but it's real news:

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. have backed a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials.

Comey’s support for the CIA’s conclusion suggests that the leaders of the three agencies are in agreement on Russian intentions, contrary to suggestions by some lawmakers that the FBI disagreed with the CIA.

“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a message to the agency’s workforce, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

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