Why and How PUTIN’S RUSSIA IS BACKING DONALD TRUMP

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

It's astonishing, eh? Makes all the background-posters of ATS i.e. the denver airport murals, more sensible.

If you simply pay attention to emotions - culture - you know where people are headed. Machiavelli knew this, as did the ancients - simply read Aristotle or Plato.

You create a stupid, lowbrow culture, and you let a celebrity like Trump run - its simply cause and effect at this point. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the liberals are truly "shocked".

Well I'm not, nor is George Lakoff or anybody who understands the fundamental emotional-affective nature of Human self-organization. The fault lies squarely with the mainstream medias overly cheerful/naive coverage of Donald Trump.

I am so amazed. Look at what lies before us. Don't you want to....cry? or laugh?

This is a truly zainy situation to be in.

EDIT:

retracted for further reflection......I was offended that you did not realize to whom you are replying, because I know you are not a newbie.

I was also amazed that you brought up "emotions" and "only have to look at" when that is very plainly my entire platform, and tried to put ignorance on me. But I'll pretend you never paid enough attention to me to know that.



Go turn your sprinkler off. The lawn is saturated.
We are now wading in a swamp.

sigh


NEXT!

Report: Russian propaganda efforts propelled fake election news
From The Hill.

Still don't believe??

Two groups of independent researchers found that Russia employed thousands of botnets, human internet “trolls” and networks of Web sites and social media accounts to inject false content into online political talk and amplify posts from right-wing sites.

“They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,” said Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who co-authored a report about Russian propaganda. “This was their standard mode during the Cold War. The problem is that this was hard to do before social media.”

A similar report from PropOrNot, provided to the Post, identifies more than 200 websites that routinely pushed Russian propaganda to at least 15 million Americans, and found that false stories pushed on Facebook were viewed more than 213 million times.

Some stories originated from RT and Sputnik, state-funded Russian information services that are more akin to traditional news sites but sometimes include false or misleading articles.

The coverage was overwhelmingly favorable to Donald Trump, and some of the most notable examples of fake news garnering major traffic online centered on

Hillary Clinton’s health,
protesters that were allegedly paid to interrupt Trump events,
and fears about vote tampering.

This was a thing.
It's real.

a reply to: Astrocyte

The Russians were not trying to put Trump in the White House, they were trying to undermine the West's faith in liberal democracy. Trump carried rural areas and the "Rust Belt" because, as a TV entertainer, he knew that audience was disaffected. Unfortunately for his supporters, there is nothing Trump can do to improve their lot. Americans lost their jobs because of improvements in productivity, not cheap foreign labor. Also, factories in emerging economies are newer, and thus have more flexibility in their infrastructure. His environmental policies may wind up hurting farmers as well. Anyway, the bottom line is that pretty much everyone thinks the system is rigged now, so they might be open to something besides our constitutional democratic republic.

I recently was able to have a brief talk with Russian family members of how things are at home. I was shocked by what I learned. They said that the top 1-2 % hold Russia's wealth, and it does not get circulated into the economy. Store shelves are no longer adequately stocked, unemployment is growing, urban housing costs are high forcing people to move away from cities, and there is no money for entrepreneurs to start small businesses. It sounded similar to America's trickle down economy and oligarchy.

Then they told me that Putin sees Trump as having the same views on Muslims as he does. That Trump would be Putin's ally in doing something about the "Muslim problem".

We didn't have the time to talk further. After I got home I looked up Russia's "Muslim problem". I was familiar with only bits and pieces from the news in recent years (I regret being behind in more thorough reading!). Here is from August

Putin’s Savage War Against Russia’s ‘New Muslims’

It's bad! The article offers some historical perspective and ends with

What we can understand now is that Russian state propaganda paints a picture of a foreign invasion of radical Islam that has brought terror to Russia and is now drawing the most dangerous radicals to fight abroad.

Yet in truth, radical Islam in Russia, to the extent it exists, is the result of years of repressive Russian policies at the local and federal levels that at first pushed desperate people “into the woods” and are now pushing diverse people (veteran radicalized Russian Muslims, second-generation urban Muslims and newly converted ethnic Russians) through a pipeline of Russia’s own construction onto the battlefields of the Middle East.

What Trump said during the campaign about Muslims and immigrants leaves me with little wonder why Putin believes he will now have an ally. And I wonder if Putin believes he could get Trump to help Russia fight its "war on Islam"! What would Putin ask Trump to do for Russia, to get the US involved in a "war on Islam"?

I keep hearing how we shouldn't have taken candidate Trump literally. Well, somebody better tell this to Putin!!

dude hillary literally threatened military action against russia over her suspicion that they leaked her emails(they didnt) and you think your intelligent for voting for her? wtf man.

a reply to: desert

you liberals take me. think a war against muslims is bad huh. tell that to the hundreds of women whove been gang raped all over europe. tell that to the poor girls whove had their genitals mutilated. tell that to the families of the victims who never got to say goodbye to their family members after a terror attack. tell that to all the kids who get raped daily in the middle east because its culturally acceptable to rape kids.

you are a monster if you support this type of behavior. there are plenty of good muslims who dont want to hurt anyone but you can NOT deny that the culture breeds psychopaths who wont think twice before torturing people to get kicks and appease allah.

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

think a war against muslims is bad huh.

So you support regime change in Muslim countries? How about regime change in European countries with repressive governments?

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Why are women subjecting themselves to such treatment after thousands of years and thousands of wars? Weapons can be made up of many things. Maybe its time to stand and fight and die for freedom.

a reply to: DJW001

um no. did i say something that alluded to that? im firmly against regime change.

a reply to: MOMof3

i dont think women subject themselves to anything, they are born into an environment and they start believing that this is ok. see Islam is great for the men so they support it and want to spread it. women who are Islamic basically have Stockholm syndrome. the only know one way of life, they are told how they should behave, what they should wear, and that men are their owners and in exchange for bending to the will of men they have a fairly ok life. they are controlled through fear. being defiant means torture or death. so they stay silent and accept their circumstance.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

Remember, Eichenwald and Newsweek WANT US to publish this. Spread it far and wide. It's jaw-dropping and terrifying. Don't be duped, folks. Look beyond what's in front of your noses.

Thanks for your attention. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Sensationalized news? Indeed we did look past it.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
wow. I feel the need to post something, but my gob is smacked to the point I can't move my fingers toward any words that mean anything.

There are more headlines coming out every day. The Russians are celebrating. It has been said that Putin is now "relaxing the tension" (like, taking the finger off the trigger?). This truly is terrifying.

We are all relatively calm now (@ rioting droolers: CALM THE FLICK DOWN!) and need to start paying attention to the world's reaction to this.

The WHOLE WORLD is reeling with this event. It is truly uncharted - no playbook - what the ........?????????

LOL, wow...

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

Report: Russian propaganda efforts propelled fake election news
From The Hill.

Still don't believe??

Two groups of independent researchers found that Russia employed thousands of botnets, human internet “trolls” and networks of Web sites and social media accounts to inject false content into online political talk and amplify posts from right-wing sites.

“They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,” said Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who co-authored a report about Russian propaganda. “This was their standard mode during the Cold War. The problem is that this was hard to do before social media.”

A similar report from PropOrNot, provided to the Post, identifies more than 200 websites that routinely pushed Russian propaganda to at least 15 million Americans, and found that false stories pushed on Facebook were viewed more than 213 million times.

Some stories originated from RT and Sputnik, state-funded Russian information services that are more akin to traditional news sites but sometimes include false or misleading articles.

The coverage was overwhelmingly favorable to Donald Trump, and some of the most notable examples of fake news garnering major traffic online centered on

Hillary Clinton’s health,
protesters that were allegedly paid to interrupt Trump events,
and fears about vote tampering.

This was a thing.
It's real.

There's factual evidence about Clinton's health, the nag fainted and was caught by her SS agents when walking to her van. And people have come out that admitted to being paid to disrupt Trump rallies. We know it was real. But it wasn't because of Russians, that's already as lame as calling Obama dissenters racist bigots, lol.

Trump seems to understand the cyber problem, there is no doubt that there are special interest spin doctors attempting to win the minds of voters.

“I don’t believe they interfered” in the election, he told Time magazine this week. The hacking, he said, “could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey.”

Certainly the US MSM was not involved, are we all doomed because some spin doctor is successful in getting people to set their home page to RT?

Its a new issue being vetted now that more people have access to the internet.

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

you can NOT deny that the culture breeds psychopaths who wont think twice before torturing people to get kicks and appease allah.

Agree that culture plays a roll in these horrible acts. So, how do we conduct a "war against muslims" to stop these things from happening?

a reply to: desert

we dont. we leave them the # alone to work out their own problems. there wouldn't be a need for a war if they weren't given the perfect opportunity to spread their religion to every corner of the world. and this is exactly what they want to do. the Muslim brotherhood is very very open about the fact that they want to spread islam. if you dont believe me go to youtube and search "The Muslim Brotherhood In The USA ...Very Secret". there are various clips of them speaking at events saying EXACTLY what i just said. even the refugees themselves have said similar things on camera. the quran tells the subjects os islam to spread their religion and that is what they wish to do. now i dont think theyll ever succeed but its not worth inviting them over by the millions at the expense of innocent people.

when we go there and start wars two things happen. they divert their anger from their leaders (who they should be fighting) and aims it at whoever is fighting them. and it turns the middle east in an environment that people want to flee.

a reply to: LSU0408

There's factual evidence about Clinton's health, the nag fainted and was caught by her SS agents when walking to her van. And people have come out that admitted to being paid to disrupt Trump rallies. We know it was real. But it wasn't because of Russians, that's already as lame as calling Obama dissenters racist bigots, lol.

No, there's ridiculous YouTube videos. She did faint once, due to a temporary illness. There are people claiming to have been paid to disrupt Trump rallies, but then there are Russian trolls claiming to be Americans. You might want to change your avatar if you want people to take you seriously.

a reply to: DJW001

what about when she passed out in 2012 and got a concussion. that from a temporary illness as well?

ahh quick deflect! hes talking about paid protestors, shift the blame towards russia. alert alert.

btw im pretty sure the paid protester thing was fake from top to bottom. should have just gone with that, but i doubt you do much if any actual research.