Hillary sent 'marked classified' info to nonsecure Abedin email account

a reply to: carewemust
22 out of 25 is failure?

Ok.

a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

a reply to: Annee

Me Annie?

???

a reply to: Sillyolme
People who care about what our public officials are doing find that 24 out of 25 would be a failure. Only those who don't care about the shady dealings of Clinton's see otherwise.

We will continue to bring her lies into the light. YOU can stay in the dark all you like, Silly.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?!

Really??

You have got to be kidding here...

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

The email was in government hands.
Hillary and Huma both worked for the State Department.

Sid Blumenthal sent Hillary classified info numerous times. Since he has no security clearance, she should have reported him for investigation, as he had no business having that info to disseminate to begin with.

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?! Really??

You have got be kidding here....

Do you know the classification standards? The info must be produced by or for the US government to receive and original classification.

the information is owned by, produced by or for, or is under the control of the United States Government

If it was CF info, it would not meet that standard.

www.whitehouse.gov...

a reply to: shooterbrody

No.
She's still going to win.

The desperation of the trump team trying to make this something that opens a door for him is palpable.
Of course they recognise that that would be the ONLY way for him to win.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

The email was in government hands.
Hillary and Huma both worked for the State Department.

Sid Blumenthal sent Hillary classified info numerous times. Since he has no security clearance, she should have reported him for investigation, as he had no business having that info to disseminate to begin with.

He sent her info that was classified for the sake of the investigation. That does not mean it was government classified info that was sent at the time.

Honestly, we went through all of this before the FBI determination. Why we have to go over it again and again is beyond me. It should be easy to understand by now.

a reply to: introvert

Their hope floats.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?! Really??

You have got be kidding here....

Do you know the classification standards? The info must be produced by or for the US government to receive and original classification.

I do as a matter of fact. Very well actually.

I handle TS and TS/SCI info on a daily basis. It's part of my job.

Do you?

a reply to: butcherguy

The one that I read says that it was classified on 10-30-3015.... a bit tough to accomplish, so I will assume that it was classified in 2015.

Well, that just makes this source even that MORE unreliable, doesn't it! LOL

Assuming that it's a typo, and it was classified on 10/30/2016, that's 4 years after it was sent. Which mean that no "Classified" information was sent at the time in question.

So, where is the OPs proof?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

No.
She's still going to win.

The desperation of the trump team trying to make this something that opens a door for him is palpable.
Of course they recognise that that would be the ONLY way for him to win.

No
last time all they lacked was intent
this time they have it
there was evidence last time , just not enough to charge
there is enough to charge now

the dems are already calling for her to step down
those calls will only get louder as more of her shenanigans are revealed

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?! Really??

You have got be kidding here....

Do you know the classification standards? The info must be produced by or for the US government to receive and original classification.

I do as a matter of fact. Very well actually.

I handle TS and TS/SCI info on a daily basis. It's part of my job.

Do you?

Then you know that the info must be created by and or for the government for it to be classified.

Blumenthal worked for the CF. Therefore, if he sent her info obtained for the CF, it would not be considered created by or for the government and would not be classified.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?! Really??

You have got be kidding here....

Do you know the classification standards? The info must be produced by or for the US government to receive and original classification.

I do as a matter of fact. Very well actually.

I handle TS and TS/SCI info on a daily basis. It's part of my job.

Do you?

Then you know that the info must be created by and or for the government for it to be classified.

Blumenthal worked for the CF. Therefore, if he sent her info obtained for the CF, it would not be considered created by or for the government and would not be classified.

Agreed but that isn't the point at all.

Hillary forwarded the info to Huma after receiving it from Blumenthal. Our Secretary of State - HRC - forwarded the email/info to a non-secure email address!

*That* is the point.

Hope that clarifies my thinking...

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?! Really??

You have got be kidding here....

Do you know the classification standards? The info must be produced by or for the US government to receive and original classification.

I do as a matter of fact. Very well actually.

I handle TS and TS/SCI info on a daily basis. It's part of my job.

Do you?

Then you know that the info must be created by and or for the government for it to be classified.

Blumenthal worked for the CF. Therefore, if he sent her info obtained for the CF, it would not be considered created by or for the government and would not be classified.

Agreed but that isn't the point at all.

Hillary forwarded the info to Huma. The SoS HRC forwarded the email/info to a non-secure email address.

*That* is the point.

Hope that clarifies my thinking...

So? If it wasn't classified info created by or for the government, Clinton can forward it to whomever she wants.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: butcherguy

The one that I read says that it was classified on 10-30-3015.... a bit tough to accomplish, so I will assume that it was classified in 2015.

Well, that just makes this source even that MORE unreliable, doesn't it! LOL

Assuming that it's a typo, and it was classified on 10/30/2016, that's 4 years after it was sent. Which mean that no "Classified" information was sent at the time in question.

So, where is the OPs proof?

You think that the source put the declassification date on the document?

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Riffrafter

The fact that is was classified later just shows that she did send classified information - knowingly or not

The fact that it was classified later just shows that it contained information that would have been classified IF it was in government hands. Which is exactly what happened. Blumenthal worked for the CF.

As for the rest of your post, it's just a rant. Not worth commenting on.

So being in the hands of the SECRETARY OF STATE does not qualify as being in gov't hands?! Really??

You have got be kidding here....

Do you know the classification standards? The info must be produced by or for the US government to receive and original classification.

I do as a matter of fact. Very well actually.

I handle TS and TS/SCI info on a daily basis. It's part of my job.

Do you?

Then you know that the info must be created by and or for the government for it to be classified.

Blumenthal worked for the CF. Therefore, if he sent her info obtained for the CF, it would not be considered created by or for the government and would not be classified.

Agreed but that isn't the point at all.

Hillary forwarded the info to Huma. The SoS HRC forwarded the email/info to a non-secure email address.

*That* is the point.

Hope that clarifies my thinking...

So? If it wasn't classified info created by or for the government, Clinton can forward it to whomever she wants.

So?!?

Remember intent is not required for it to be a criminal act under the statute. Gross negligence also applies. And to say that our Secretary of State wasn't grossly negligent in sending this info/email to a non-secure account *from* a non-secure server is ludicrous and one helluva indictment to her intelligence and judgement for someone in such an important position.

She's put herself in a terrible position. The choices that intelligent voters are left with regarding her are that she's either a criminal or she's incompetent.

Wow....just wow.

LOL

I see the tired old meme of "not classified at the time" has been resurrected.

originally posted by: xuenchen
LOL

I see the tired old meme of "not classified at the time" has been resurrected.

I guess they figure that they have used that concocted excuse for a while and everyone will have forgot about it.