I am in the hospital

Dude!

I'm terrible at supportive speeches. Ketsuko is much better at those.

Suffice it to say, you have family here and we want to see you get better and on your feet. Thoughts and prayers.

a reply to: TechniXcality


omg, I had no idea. you have to take care of yourself. if you ever find yourself on the east coast you can sleep on my couch.

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: openyourmind1262

You need to walk in another's shoes to truly understand another person. Also, humility goes a long way. Thoughts for you to ponder.

Well thats the last straw to bite as this post is center stage. Im sorry but i am taking the side of opernyoumind1262. How dare you criticise him for his or her truthful-ness, at least hes not on here peddling his child to a self loathing addict. Im sorry everyone, and to those of you / us that have been through alcohol addiction with a family member you should immediately see the problem with the OP. I lost a brother to this exact same problem. And yea im gonna anger some folks with this, but those of you that have directly or indirectly been through this should know better.

I lost a brother to this. The very same thing, we went through al-anon, aa, and counseling to help but he just wouldnt take. And upon the multiple trips to er and his final visit, he wasnt looking to get hooked up, or posting a selfie titled "one for the ladies". If any of you know better this is a person needing pity and promoting there crap to make themselves feel better and have a pity party. Those of you that have been through this should understand the meaning of "enabler".

Im sorry dude, trust me, i truly get the spot your in, but making a mockery of it and getting all this self indulgent pity, you have a long way to go to understand your recovery. As unfortunate as it is, you most likely came here for people to feel.sorry for you, as is so obvious in your interest in looking for a date, and self indulgence of a post titled one for the ladies. People here may give you warmth, and rightfully so for them, but you need to look inwards, not for this self pity crap. Im sorry others wont speak the truth, but to best handle a person in your position as you say you are, you need truth, and not rainbow answers.

Most your posts in this topic sounded like you were still drunk, unless i am wrong and that is how your normally type. Im sorry for your situation. But you have to help yourself at this point, addiction only truely dies when you decide for it to, not others. Looking for sympathy and pity is all in the addicts play book, and i am sorry others were afraid to tell you otherwise as it sounds like some very knowledgeable people have posted upon your behalf, and they have been through it.

And for you justso, to pimp your daughter and say someone is hot when hes obvioisly crying help, and to knock a person being real, you should re-check yourself. The last thing a person in this situation needs is false hopes, unless all hes after is attention, which seems like the case, as the" just for the ladies" post. Either way, after losing someone in this exact scenario, i am at wits end, no one seems to be giving him the hard truths.

I understand these terms, enabler, addict and abuser.

Sometimes we can be so judgmental when our lives aren't perfect. Hell, whose life is?

I think people turn to drugs/alcohol to escape their reality when it isn't good or too much for them to handle. We can't possibly know what others are going through/been through. There's so many addictions...drugs, alcohol, food, pornography and the like.

Sometimes folks just need to be heard and feel worthwhile. There is a time and place for everything and when someone has caused themselves physical harm (THEIR LIFE COULD END FROM WHAT THEY'VE DONE!) perhaps, they just need a listening ear, a comforting embrace or another human to try to empathize with them from the heart.

They've used and abused so many of their loved ones and the bridges are ashes. This is a new road and they just need someone to help to show them the way. Some folks are on a different/newer path than the rest of us. We are not all on the same path or at the same place in our development and should help one another. I believe we can help and still be compassionate. Some people are so filled with hate and self loathing that it is not a good idea to add to the badness, IMO.

We should help them along. We should guide them. They are newer to the earth than the rest. We just need to show some compassion and their next time around (and ours) we may encounter wiser and stronger humans.

Just my two cents.

Stupid phone wouldn't let me reply. Had to wait until I got to work. Didn't know you were bad off. Hope you get better soon.

a reply to: network dude

Does a truly sickly person not looking for pity in the situation he says hes in post selfies about "for the ladies" and try to get hooked up with another members daughter? Yes he may be in a bad spot, but he best believe people in equal positions or people who have been through similar states may knock his laxidasical ways of the way he is promoting his pity party. I agree hes in a bad spot, and needs help, but come on.

Never is something to say after a long journey as in I never have or I never had time too.

Step by step don't start out this journey by setting yourself up to fall... that will only lead to depression, self loathing and not being able to face those that believe you can do anything you put effort in.

Step by step day by day and if you stumble stand up set it back down and keep walking.

That's what works.

a reply to: openyourmind1262

What exactly is the purpose of your posts. Do you need to feel superior or holier than thou here?

I have an idea. How about you stop being such an asshat?

Now *that* would be a good start...

a reply to: Riffrafter

I wouldn't be so hard on them maybe asshat is the way he or she copes with their issue with alcohol. Even without chemical addictions there's mental addictions like belief and ideology... all we have is each other for support networks, when the support network called family failed in being or teaching us how to be one.

Self learning through all of that crap is the hard way and valuable asshat or not addiction or not a chair isn't the only support people need.

I just see pain trying to cover up that pain pretending to be strength... it wasn't alcohol; that was the coping... the same way that the other person is saying it is the OP's fault for drinking and using that anger as their coping for saying it is.

It's a vicious cycle... and once you see those cycles that damage others and ourselves the more able one is as a support.

Sorry to get down on you but getting and staying healthy is the topic; spreading pain that may then cause more unhealthy coping isn't going to break those cycles.

Thats the goal in not only treatment for such things but for a better world for us all right?

That sucks man. I've been in the hospital more times than I'd care to remember. You'll get through it though. Good luck

a reply to: Burnt1afterlife

What exactly is the hard truth, according to you? Are you saying that there is no hope for him so he might as well do himself in and end it all? Are you saying he's a big fat loser who doesn't have a chance in hell of making something of his life? Who are you to say that? Just because your brother didn't make it? You have seen on this thread how many people have been in the exact same situation as the OP who DID make it through.

He's trying to make light of the situation, and yes, maybe there is some alcohol still in his system, but he's in the hospital being treated for that. He has said that he doesn't want to go through this ever again. We are simply supporting that.

We are all trying to let him know that he is worth the effort he is going to have to go through to fix his life. What in the hell is wrong with that? You and the other guy on here are wanting to tell him he's not worth the effort? What the hell is wrong with you?

originally posted by: Burnt1afterlife

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: openyourmind1262

You need to walk in another's shoes to truly understand another person. Also, humility goes a long way. Thoughts for you to ponder.

Well thats the last straw to bite as this post is center stage. Im sorry but i am taking the side of opernyoumind1262. How dare you criticise him for his or her truthful-ness, at least hes not on here peddling his child to a self loathing addict. Im sorry everyone, and to those of you / us that have been through alcohol addiction with a family member you should immediately see the problem with the OP. I lost a brother to this exact same problem. And yea im gonna anger some folks with this, but those of you that have directly or indirectly been through this should know better.

I lost a brother to this. The very same thing, we went through al-anon, aa, and counseling to help but he just wouldnt take. And upon the multiple trips to er and his final visit, he wasnt looking to get hooked up, or posting a selfie titled "one for the ladies". If any of you know better this is a person needing pity and promoting there crap to make themselves feel better and have a pity party. Those of you that have been through this should understand the meaning of "enabler".

Im sorry dude, trust me, i truly get the spot your in, but making a mockery of it and getting all this self indulgent pity, you have a long way to go to understand your recovery. As unfortunate as it is, you most likely came here for people to feel.sorry for you, as is so obvious in your interest in looking for a date, and self indulgence of a post titled one for the ladies. People here may give you warmth, and rightfully so for them, but you need to look inwards, not for this self pity crap. Im sorry others wont speak the truth, but to best handle a person in your position as you say you are, you need truth, and not rainbow answers.

Most your posts in this topic sounded like you were still drunk, unless i am wrong and that is how your normally type. Im sorry for your situation. But you have to help yourself at this point, addiction only truely dies when you decide for it to, not others. Looking for sympathy and pity is all in the addicts play book, and i am sorry others were afraid to tell you otherwise as it sounds like some very knowledgeable people have posted upon your behalf, and they have been through it.

And for you justso, to pimp your daughter and say someone is hot when hes obvioisly crying help, and to knock a person being real, you should re-check yourself. The last thing a person in this situation needs is false hopes, unless all hes after is attention, which seems like the case, as the" just for the ladies" post. Either way, after losing someone in this exact scenario, i am at wits end, no one seems to be giving him the hard truths.

No. You clearly don't get it.

Save your judgment and crass BS. This isn't the time nor the place.

I kinda think you're the type who gets off on kicking people when they are down.

That's a lot worse than being a homeless alcoholic iin the hospital, IMHO.

The OP sharing his story and selfies may help someone else who's struggling. It may help him have a place to look back, once he's feeling better and tempted to make decisions/choices that landed him in the hospital to begin with.

Its not about pity or attention seeking. I honestly find your post to be way more attention seeking and poor pitiful me than his...

Jesus people need to learn not to project their BS onto others. Live and let live. Provide an encouraging word, offer a prayer if that's your thing.

But save your snarky, poor me judgment. It doesn't do anything positive for anyone and just makes you look like a jerk.

OP, I do hope you find the help you need and I hope you feel better soon. Reach out to the social worker in the hospital, they can help you with community resources, securing medical coverage and possibly helping you with placement. Trying to beat addiction is tough but even tougher without a roof over your head or resources for basic life needs.

I pray you can find the help you need. Ignore the negative folks on here, they're truly miserable and just can't help themselves.

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
Dying of ALS...sure as hell aint the same as slowly killing yourself with a damn bottle. At least he has a choice as to where I do not. Don't even try to compare the two. I'm dying, that's for damn sure, my say in it is mute....the OP's destiny at this point is entirely in his hands. And help aint at the bottom of a bottle.a reply to: kaylaluv

Listen.... We all have to leave sometime. you just have the ability to set things right with those you know before the end. I truly wish you well and hope you outlive the predictions but dont take it out on someone else k?

a reply to: TechniXcality

Hey TechniX!

Look at all the love everybody has for you! That is more support than I got when I found myself facing the low pit of despair and self destruction.

My advice.

Be honest with yourself while in one-on-one meetings with you counselor. This is the toughest thing you are ever going to do. But you are smart. You will do this. You've already shared a lot here on ATS so you got this. PS - It hurts like hell. It is not fun. It is the best thing you can ever do for yourself.

If you do not feel like doing the whole 12-step program, then don't. Oh, they will it push it on you. But if you find yourself at the "Jesus is the only one who can help now" point and it does not work for... be honest and say it will not work for you. Then find another program. I found behavior awareness and correction the best fit for me.

Never say, "never". Bigbrodarkness already covered this. You set yourself up for failure and only feel worse. Then begins another cycle. Who knows if you come back from the next one, right?

I ended up not drinking for over a year. Now, it is just beer. No more black outs. No more three alarm hang overs. And all the drama that goes along with it. No more police encounters. No more self-destructiveness.

You already have more love from your ATS family than I ever got from mine! You are already starting out on the best footing possible. You have got this! Get better then turn that big brain of yours on righting spaceship TechniXcality!

Love,

-TEOT

a reply to: TechniXcality

Gonna keep us updated?

How are you doing?
Thought of you today and just wondering.

Let us know.
Thanks,
Cheers!

a reply to: TechniXcality

Actually, the string beans may not be so bad. I always liked them!

Not much else to say beyond what's already been said. Hope you make a full and speedy recovery.

I don't want to be Debbie Downer, but I used to work in a hospital and liver failure is an awful way to go. Let this be the eye opener that causes you kick the alcohol habit for good. Trust me.

* Move to a state where cannabis is legal if you can. Same benefits as alcohol without nearly the amount of crappy side effects.

OP "I'm homeless and hopelessly addicted to alcohol"

Various ATS Users " I'll make you a sandwich big boy!"

"I know you are in a relationship, but I will literally fly my daughter to come see you"

Me "...wait what?"

a reply to: TechniXcality
How are you? Are you still in the hospital?

a reply to: Burnt1afterlife

Often with groupthink the most rational voice is drowned out by the most charismatic and popular voice. You my friend sound rational.