Tennessee Mom Throws A Fit When Her Daughter Learns About Islam In School

a reply to: TrueBrit

I will back you up as many a member will because we know your history when all the gay marriage thing was all the craze on ATS.
I remember the amount of members who wrote to the bbc (me included) showing them evidence that you did not hate gay folk and was very supportive of them.
I agree cheap cheap shot.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: jellyrev
I am for historical facts but it would offend many.

Muhammad, a war mongering pedo. Im sure the class talked about that lol.

I really dont think they could teach it neutrally like they can other religions, mainly bc it lacked reformations and being a critic is dangerous.

Rampant speculation does no good. If you got evidence, present it. Otherwise your speculation here is just going to confuse people.

Upon his 51st birthday, the prophet took as his wife, Aisha...
The 6/7 year old daughter of his trusted general and caliphate of succession..
She was not able to consummate the marriage for just over 2 years..
Upon doing so Aisha became his most precious of wives and labeled "Mother of the Believers"

Definition:
pe·do·phile
ˈpedəˌfīl/
noun
a person who is sexually attracted to children.

-Chris

a reply to: Christosterone

That wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about him speculating on the content of the class based on his biases not because I was challenging his words on the history of Islam.

Seriously do you even CARE about reading comprehension or do you just care about answering your own narrative in your own head?

a reply to: Christosterone

Chris, I'm gonna be blunt here...

I doubt you put any stock into the many thousands of peaceful Hadith or attribute them to Muhammad's kindness & patience so why do you attribute the vile ones to him?


Me personally, I follow no Hadith.
I make no bones about throwing out the good with the bad, you however seem to latch onto these messages written centuries after Muhammad's passing as if they hold any weight.

& the only people who do that are extremists or Islamophobes.

Think about that.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Christosterone

That wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about him speculating on the content of the class based on his biases not because I was challenging his words on the history of Islam.

Seriously do you even CARE about reading comprehension or do you just care about answering your own narrative in your own head?

Unlike you I am unable to glean the meaning of words…
I use only the words from which to draw meaning..

So I offered you proof of Mohamed's pedophilia which I thought you to be referencing..
Since I did present you with proof(of a different sort), let's talk about it shall we?
What are your thoughts on this marriage?
Do you consider banging an eight-year-old to be pedophilia?

I assume as a progressive you are unable and unwilling to label the prophet what he actually is..
Who knows, maybe you can surprise me and define evil without moral relativism...

-Chris

a reply to: Christosterone

Richard II of England married a 9 year old, it was common for girls to marry at the age of 12.
Different times dude we can not hold them to our standards now.

discover-the-truth.com...


It disgusts me to think these children got married at that age but again different times. Look at the age of consent in the 1880's in some places in the USA....10.
But it is a trick you all use to attack the other religions.
All are stupid tbh I'm glad everyones waking up to this.

a reply to: Christosterone

just one question here, before we go diving into the sewage system here...

are you sure that the christians of this times weren't marrying off their young daughters also?????

www.rawstory.com...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Hazardous1408

Yea. She is clearly one of the many idiotic Americans who let the media tell them their entire opinion about Islam and never actually try to break that bubble of ignorance. And ironically with this situation, this idiot is actually speaking out AGAINST her daughter having that bubble of ignorance being broken. I feel sorry for her having such a doofus for a mother.

And this folks is exactly what is going on in the world. Pure ignorance and blindly following a belief without educating yourself. Any cult religious or not leads people astray from the truth all for the control of said group. Media is also a cult people blindly follow. This thread is evidence of the ignorance.

To teach History is to teach about the religious wars and a summary of their beliefs, nothing more.

I have formed no belief with religion other than what I have taught myself so I hold no religious title other than I believe in something greater than myself as I see myself. With that said I tend to step outside the religious box and wonder how any christian can have fear of another when they are told not to. When you are told by God not to do something and you disobey bad things happen according to their religion ... just seems like a circle jerk to me.

I want my kids if they feel the need to study all mythology and their history before labeling them selves and or committing to a cult. If I wanted them indoctrinated I'd take them to a Catholic Church or a Mosque and leave them there.

I think all religions should be taught in schools. At the start of every week they aught to be a 5 minute lesson to drum into the children that all religions (and mention them all, do not miss any) are just a way that powerful people can control the masses to do what they want and to keep them in the luxury they think that they rightly deserve.
The problem is that Muslims prevaricate about their, I shall call it faith. But its not just faith is it. To be a Muslim is to be ruled on every aspect of life. ie. it IS a religion, it IS a culture, it IS a political entity all in one and as such dictates the adherents full compliance. You cannot take any one aspect out of the whole to justify your stance and ignore the parts that that don't. That's prevarication and downright lying by omission. As for all you US Muslims that want to disagree I would clearly say you are not"proper" Muslims and are only cherry picking parts of Islam that suits your present situation.

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: Christosterone

Richard II of England married a 9 year old, it was common for girls to marry at the age of 12.
Different times dude we can not hold them to our standards now.

And there is the moral relativism...
Thank you..

For me, I can easily call both Richard II and Mohamed pedophiles...
It rolls off the toungue quite easily in fact..

-Chris

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Krazysh0t

One wonders how it would pan out if the religions were switched .

Exactly!


The OP gave us an indicator of the reaction with this statement.

Christian Justice Warrior

If I said "Islam justice warrior" I would be labeled racist and Islamophobic. I guess technically an IJW is the same as a SJW. But I digress...

So much for no religion in schools I guess.

a reply to: crayzeed

But its not just faith is it. To be a Muslim is to be ruled on every aspect of life. ie. it IS a religion, it IS a culture, it IS a political entity all in one and as such dictates the adherents full compliance.

The very same could be said about Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and probably Buddhism as well.

Why is this meme so prevalent that Islam is the only religion that is political & cultural?

This is dross.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Christosterone

Chris, I'm gonna be blunt here...

I doubt you put any stock into the many thousands of peaceful Hadith or attribute them to Muhammad's kindness & patience so why do you attribute the vile ones to him?


Me personally, I follow no Hadith.
I make no bones about throwing out the good with the bad, you however seem to latch onto these messages written centuries after Muhammad's passing as if they hold any weight.

& the only people who do that are extremists or Islamophobes.

Think about that.

What does Islam teach about Jews? whether "you" actually hate them or not? Apes and pigs right, they are subhuman so it is ok to kill one as far as Allah is concerned right?

originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: Christosterone

Richard II of England married a 9 year old, it was common for girls to marry at the age of 12.
Different times dude we can not hold them to our standards now.

And there is the moral relativism...
Thank you..

For me, I can easily call both Richard II and Mohamed pedophiles...
It rolls off the toungue quite easily in fact..

-Chris

Back in the day pedophiles and being bisexual was the norm. Maybe this should be taught in school too. People don't seem to understand our History as a collective. Even King James was said to be called "Queen James". We don't know for sure.. we weren't there but it's written many times over all you have to do is seek and you will find.

originally posted by: goou111

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Christosterone

Chris, I'm gonna be blunt here...

I doubt you put any stock into the many thousands of peaceful Hadith or attribute them to Muhammad's kindness & patience so why do you attribute the vile ones to him?


Me personally, I follow no Hadith.
I make no bones about throwing out the good with the bad, you however seem to latch onto these messages written centuries after Muhammad's passing as if they hold any weight.

& the only people who do that are extremists or Islamophobes.

Think about that.

What does Islam teach about Jews? whether "you" actually hate them or not? Apes and pigs right, they are subhuman so it is ok to kill one as far as Allah is concerned right?

What does Judaism teach about Goyim? Whether "they" actually hate us or not? Beasts and animals right, we are subhuman so it is ok to lie, steal, cheat, kill as far as Yahweh is concerned right?

What does Hinduism teach about lower caste? What does Christianity teach about non believers? Same thing.

Now of course I do not believe the above, but if you read the Encyclopaedia Judaica or The Talmud, you'd find this to be the correct assessment. Goose & gander?

But you really really hate Islam much more than the rest. Amirite?

a reply to: crayzeed

Just like every Christian.
I know so many moderate Muslims I'm going out with one. I know her family and get on with them we all enjoy a drink together (not all but her dad has a drink) they consider themselves Muslims they do cherry pick but I care not about their religion I care about them as people and I love one of them.
Sure there are very bad bits what some folk use to justify violence against people just like every religion and my friends hate them, I have seen Mo watch the news and get so angry people are using his religion to hurt others.
Oh and who the hell are you to decide who is a real Muslim or not? you are wanting Muslims to be fundamentalist to suit your narrative and agenda when in reality they are just the same as everyone else they want their kids to grow up safe and happy.
I just don't think you know any Muslims...
Oh and I'm not religious think they are all wrong when used to hate but lets not forget the vast amount of Muslims,Christians,Atheists etc are decent folk who would never harm another but nutters will use others ideologys for an excuse for violence.

a reply to: Christosterone

Most of your ancestors were pedo's by our standards today ,mine also everyones were.
I take it you didn't even read the link.

a reply to: Hazardous1408
Your wrong and you know it. Name me one country that is ruled by any religious sect that controls the political stage and the cultural stage?
Now name me one Islamic nation that the religious entities do not control the religious, political and cultural systems? I could say Turkey but that's just being cleansed of anti-Islamic influences as we speak.
It is not a meme but the truth.
And that's all I have to say on that matter.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So you would be OK with teaching the Tennent of christianity in school as well than? Or does Islam get special treatment and be the only religion taught in schools. Me personally I don't think religion belongs in school. And I don't think schools should be teaching on beliefs of any religion. But I guess if we do it for one I guess we need to do it for all of them.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: goou111

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Christosterone

Chris, I'm gonna be blunt here...

I doubt you put any stock into the many thousands of peaceful Hadith or attribute them to Muhammad's kindness & patience so why do you attribute the vile ones to him?


Me personally, I follow no Hadith.
I make no bones about throwing out the good with the bad, you however seem to latch onto these messages written centuries after Muhammad's passing as if they hold any weight.

& the only people who do that are extremists or Islamophobes.

Think about that.

What does Islam teach about Jews? whether "you" actually hate them or not? Apes and pigs right, they are subhuman so it is ok to kill one as far as Allah is concerned right?

What does Judaism teach about Goyim? Whether "they" actually hate us or not? Beasts and animals right, we are subhuman so it is ok to lie, steal, cheat, kill as far as Yahweh is concerned right?

What does Hinduism teach about lower caste? What does Christianity teach about non believers? Same thing.

Now of course I do not believe the above, but if you read the Encyclopaedia Judaica or The Talmud, you'd find this to be the correct assessment. Goose & gander?

But you really really hate Islam much more than the rest. Amirite?

Its pretty hypocritic to yell racism and Islamophobia when you consider a whole race of people subhuman though.

Muslims are not attacking people because they are racist. They are attacking people because of their religion not their race.

So why is hating Islam Racism?