Tennessee Mom Throws A Fit When Her Daughter Learns About Islam In School

a reply to: Irishhaf

And until you show that they were preaching the religion not teaching it, until we see an example from the text book which shows that the intention of the lesson is to partially indoctrinate the children into a particular belief system, I fail to see what the fuss is about.

The reality is, that to teach a lesson which is about Islam, OR ANY OTHER RELIGION it is necessary to include fundamental information, including things like the fundamental underpinnings of the faith, the origin of it as near as can be understood, and a basic understanding of its ethos.

Put another way, if I say that I am going to teach a class in mathematics, but I hide all the answers, never explain multiplication and insist that no one show their work to prove they have understood the content of the lesson plan, did I really teach anything at all?

a reply to: goou111

I said to get your hate out. I don't care if you post in the thread.

a reply to: goou111

ummm... ya sure!!

the was a couple that went to our church, the husband was from a jewish family , the wife was from lebanon and was raised muslim. they came to our church when they wanted to marry and found that neither religion would accept the marriage.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: knoxie

I could have misunderstood the story, but it reads to me like its a text book on islam... religion shouldn't be in the schools beyond the bare bones.

I outlined the distinction in my OP... You could have tried reading that and maybe you wouldn't have been so confused.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Christosterone

Oh!

An appeal to fear from someone who is afraid of Islam! Thank goodness not all western folk are as weak as you have just made yourself appear Christosterone. We would have been murdered and starved by now if we were!

Fear is an instinct programmed into our DNA as a survival mechanism...

If you are not afraid of sharia governance then you are foolish...

Not since the Inquisition Era has such a barbaric ethos persisted on this fair earth...

-Chris

How can you possibly teach history without talking about different religions?
Huge parts of our past has been directly influenced by religion.
Talking about communism doesn't mean anyone is trying to get you to switch to communism.
Same goes for religion.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
How can you possibly teach history without talking about different religions?
Huge parts of our past has been directly influenced by religion.
Talking about communism doesn't mean anyone is trying to get you to switch to communism.
Same goes for religion.

My running theory on why the US is as resistant to something as simple as thorough background education on something? Probably has to do with our Puritan roots retarding us (to use the word in exactly the proper context here) Our resistance is a hold-over from the stick-up-up-ass era.

a reply to: Christosterone

Fear is an emotional response to something we don't understand. But to fix that, you attempt to understand it so you don't fear it anymore. Maybe you should try that instead of preaching more ignorance and misunderstanding. This is ATS, we deny ignorance, not embrace it. Or rather we are supposed to.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Call it Muhammadanism, for instance, or whatever to avoid a negative mental connection.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: goou111

I said to get your hate out. I don't care if you post in the thread.

The thread is about some idiot(your words) being triggered. Then as soon as someone says something you guys dont like you all act the same as said triggered idiot.

Like your opinion is the only one that matters and everyone else is just an "idiot"

originally posted by: surnamename57
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Call it Muhammadanism, for instance, or whatever to avoid a negative mental connection.

So we should cater to offended Christians who are mad that their teachers are calling a religion by its proper name?

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Bluntone22
How can you possibly teach history without talking about different religions?
Huge parts of our past has been directly influenced by religion.
Talking about communism doesn't mean anyone is trying to get you to switch to communism.
Same goes for religion.

My running theory on why the US is as resistant to something as simple as thorough background education on something? Probably has to do with our Puritan roots retarding us (to use the word in exactly the proper context here) Our resistance is a hold-over from the stick-up-up-ass era.

I have read the Koran, the accompanying Hadiths, and know well what it means to live in a sharia state...

I suppose the offense I take is sharia would see my homosexual sibling jailed or executed and my physician wife subjugated to my masculine rule despite her unequaled intellectual prowess (phage level IQ)

Historical sidenote:
The Zarathustrans once thought as American progressives think…
How did that work out for them?

-Chris

a reply to: goou111
It sounds like you are the one who is triggered. Still ranting about this offtopic conversation.

I just wonder if this mother could point to Jesus's hometown on a blank map, I wonder whether she'd point at Mexico.

originally posted by: goou111

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: goou111

I said to get your hate out. I don't care if you post in the thread.

The thread is about some idiot(your words) being triggered. Then as soon as someone says something you guys dont like you all act the same as said triggered idiot.

Like your opinion is the only one that matters and everyone else is just an "idiot"

Moron is as moron does. If the lady wants to come off as an ignorant jackass, so be it. That's where the rest of us (if so inclined) who HAVE had classes regarding religion & historical context (and therefore BTDT) get to poke fun at the idiot. She comes off as so monumentally stupid that it's barely worth my effort, though.

a reply to: Christosterone

This is like saying that all Christians want to kill homosexuals because of Leviticus 20:13.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I said Muhammadanism, because Islam is popularly connected with acts of terror.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Christosterone

Fear is an emotional response to something we don't understand. But to fix that, you attempt to understand it so you don't fear it anymore. Maybe you should try that instead of preaching more ignorance and misunderstanding. This is ATS, we deny ignorance, not embrace it. Or rather we are supposed to.

No it is a genetically coded survival mechanism...
You will always tell a patient in the ER to listen to your fear as it is generally correct ...

www.scientificamerican.com...

-Chris

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: goou111
It sounds like you are the one who is triggered. Still ranting about this offtopic conversation.

How is it off topic? What is the topic? Idiot being triggered right?

a reply to: Christosterone

You simultaneously completely missed my effing point, and proved it. Good job. Now, since you're so smart & studied, can everyone else also be so?