Tom De Longe with answers about UFOs, Life, the Universe and Everything...

originally posted by: mirageman
Something weird has happened?

I think I gained an hour of time overnight and this thread doesn't seem the same as I remember it.
Maybe it's that Gandhi Effect all those people with false memories (or in Dolly Parton's case - false mammaries) keep talking about.

So can we get back on track please?

Although I've nothing interesting (or even boring) to add at the moment.

Missing time eh?
Sure you weren't picked up and taken to the saucer and debriefed?

a reply to: KansasGirl

I've been pretty straight-forward, across many posts anyway.

I've also been very clear about which pieces i know and the pieces i don't know.

And yes, a few confidences i must keep.

So not that different than various people on here.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: KansasGirl

I've been pretty straight-forward, across many posts anyway.

I've also been very clear about which pieces i know and the pieces i don't know.

And yes, a few confidences i must keep.

So not that different than various people on here.

Kev

Ah, ok. Thank you for clarifying (I guess). I'm new here, but I've read through many threads in which you've commented (and I really enjoy your contributions, by the way), but I ask myself every time "what is it he's trying to let us know he's been privy to, and who has he gotten his info from?" So I guess I haven't yet read your comments where you make it clear what you know and how you know it. My apologies. Would you mind directing me to your posts which answer it? Thank you!

a reply to: KansasGirl

Well let me clarify further.

As i said, my field is not primarily "UFOs" as UFOs are either misidentification, mic deception, or due to another type of natural/artificial process.

My field was originally spiritual/occult/fringe research, which has put me into contact with several of the "occult physicists".

Now if you want to know what they say its best to read their books. None of them say much more in person than they write about in their books.

If you go to my blog, under resources, books, you will find some of the best fringe researchers.

As for me, you might wish to go to my "wall" under my profile and check out past posts.

However, i tend to speak for whatever audience im with...in their words somewhat...so don't expect any "scientific papers".

I do keep the most distresing and dangerous stuff to myself. Most people do that.

You asked nicely...so i answered the best i may.

Kev

I usually just lurk around here but thought I'd post this.

Is it just me or has the frequency of articles such as this increased lately?

Here's another one.

I'm not saying this relates to anything in this thread but who knows. My impression is that it has picked up greatly just this year alone.

a reply to: Skeletonized

Oh, more to come, my friend

There will be bigger news about Tabby's Star, KIC 8462852, 'Alien Megastructure' star



It is HAPPENING

a reply to: kkboxop

i hope they are not sensationalising some data, in a bid for more funding. i want history changing info, some news that hey were not alone, so stop killing each other before our big alien brothers come down and skelp our arses.

originally posted by: Skeletonized
I usually just lurk around here but thought I'd post this.

Is it just me or has the frequency of articles such as this increased lately?

Here's another one.

I'm not saying this relates to anything in this thread but who knows. My impression is that it has picked up greatly just this year alone.

It could just be a massive coincidence. But...

I mentioned earlier in the thread that maybe there is a trigger point for 'disclosure'. The trigger being the point when it becomes official that we've discovered life beyond earth. Whether that be bugs on Mars, Europa or a comet or a sign of life from beyond the solar system. That point is looking closer and closer. So are other plans now accelerating?

I don't know. Maybe we live in interesting times?

a reply to: mirageman

China setting up their own SETI program got my interest. The frequency of articles on the possibility of extra terrestrial life is growing for sure.

I'm not sure if anyone read my post on the recent uptick in posts about Artificial Intelligence rivalling and overtaking humans? I tried to point out that this isn't a coincidence. It's a public relations campaign as opposed to spontaneous, natural news generation.

I'll not repeated myself here but the AI issue is being media managed for a reason, probably a commercial one (bubble).

The SETI style articles are quite clearly part of a media managed campaign. One of the first principles of PR is to be able to influence the conversation both within the individual and society. This is done by planting topics and issues in a way that people think about them, but often not the main message of article.

Viral videos often have corporate creators at their heart and they carry their brand message subtly in a larger unrelated message to ensure easier acceptance,

Anyone remember Pepsis Dark Knight satellite viral videos?

There are a few options for Extrterrestrial life:
- Demonic / ancient aliens / hyper dimensional
- extra biological entities that are extraterrestrial

The demon hypothesis would be the biggest boost to religion imaginable. The EBE hypothesis may have a massive negative impact but I imagine only the most fundamental of religions and followers wouldn't be able to easily adapt.

The SETI type content doesn't seem to setup a demonic angle, but I wouldn't rule it out.

a reply to: ctj83

Maybe AI and the increased marketing of seti style articles are both hitting now for a linked reason?

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It's an unusual coincidence, isn't it?

a reply to: ctj83

It could be paredolia/selection bias.

On the other hand, have you ever considered what a post singularity AI might be capable of modulating and using to interact with the physical world?

Advanced software can even use single bit states, such as the "spin property of an electron".

It never hurts to keep an open mind.

Kev

Disclosure?


I’m reading the book by Dolan now and so far am disappointed.

Disclosure he thinks will itself bring about paradigm shifts. I don’t think so.
Disclosure unless it comes along with some real substance and not the bitter fruit for more theories and concepts, will not amount to much.

In-fact beyond the sinister reasons for non discloser, if you think about it it’s very reasonable to NOT disclose until they know the whole deal.

Any half ass disclosure is water over the bridge

I suspect the truth is very deep...too deep for anything other than what I call an interactive disclosure

That might be fun for some and not so much fun for others

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Very possible that it's selection bias. I would say that I'm fairly good at detecting a media campaign and the AI certainly is. The SETI one I only suspect.

However, I think I have a way to prove if I'm wrong, which is very possible!

I can barely contemplate what such an AI could do, but I suspect it would be able to account from using of the paranormal we see.

We could view such an AI as a "spectra" haunting earth?

a reply to: ctj83

Yeah...but a Spectre can't launch a NUKE,like Colossus or Skynet.
If an AI did come online I wonder if it will USE emotions as a target or tools to help?

a reply to: ctj83

I see you understand.

I've been pondering that a quantum AI would require qbits shielded from the environment..say by a magnetic envelope. So electrons in a core surrounded by a magnetic envelop...capable of stability and rapid movement both...even in a pre-industrial environment.

Ill leave that thought right there for now.

Kev

Well, I finally bit the bullet and read Sekret Machines. I had decided not to, because... well, I guess I am tired of being manipulated.

I just finished it. Now I do not know what to think anymore. I mean, how on earth do they ever think they will even remotely get away with even 10% of this, if it's all bs...?

I know all about the "Big Lie" theory and everything, but this is beyond big. This is, if it is a lie, the biggest lie ever served.

Strangely, I find myself starting to wonder. No doubt as I was ment to do.

I must admit it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Couple that with the steady barrage of "extraterrestrial" this and that in the media.

And not to forget Reagans' UN speech (and Bill Clintons too)..
How all our differences would be quickly forgotten in the face of some "extraterrestrial threat"...

What was it Werner von Braun supposedly warned about, to one of his assistants all those years ago?

There seems to be altogether too many mirrors and too much smoke, and I find myself a bit unnerved by it all.

BT

a reply to: beetee

Yup. A twisted forn of "disclosure" could be happening right under your nose and you might never realize it, before or after.

But no matter what...the "outer layer" for public consumption and certain people's benefit might not even resemble whats at the core of it.

TANSTAAFL

Is even built into the laws of physics you know.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: KansasGirl

Well let me clarify further.

As i said, my field is not primarily "UFOs" as UFOs are either misidentification, mic deception, or due to another type of natural/artificial process.

My field was originally spiritual/occult/fringe research, which has put me into contact with several of the "occult physicists".

Now if you want to know what they say its best to read their books. None of them say much more in person than they write about in their books.

If you go to my blog, under resources, books, you will find some of the best fringe researchers.

As for me, you might wish to go to my "wall" under my profile and check out past posts.

However, i tend to speak for whatever audience im with...in their words somewhat...so don't expect any "scientific papers".

I do keep the most distresing and dangerous stuff to myself. Most people do that.

You asked nicely...so i answered the best i may.

Kev

And I thank you for the answer! I'll read some more of your work here. Thanks!

I've read Sekret Machines and I've listened to a couple of Tom's interviews. He's said on a couple of different occasions that "the ancient legends are true". Has this been covered and can someone tell me what to read up on before the next book in this series regarding this?