Useless SJW gives the finger to the wrong dude.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight

If she claims freedom of speech, then I cannot see this being a cut and dried case. Where is the line drawn between freedom of speech and harassment?

Harassment is when one instigates violence against another. Stopping at someone's home and making generalized demeaning statements towards them in responce to a political sign is way, way over the line between free speech and harassment.

Tara is free to express support for her candidate all she wants. As a political candidate, Trump cannot stifle her freedom to speak out against him. As a celebrity, even if by her own propensity of speech, Tara herself has placed herself in the same category. Her victim has not placed himself in celebrity status, nor is he a political figure; therefore he is protected against unreasonable taunts.

In simpler terms, freedom of speech is limited by the right to be secure in one's own home. The more publicly available one becomes, in terms of political activism or celebrity status, the less restrictive that restriction on freedom of speech becomes.

TheRedneck

Doesn't it seem to you that to publicly display your political choice, in what I see as a volatile political environment there, is asking for it?

originally posted by: destination now
a reply to: InTheLight

fair enough, but considering the guy claims to have footage of a number of events, it will surely be proved to be harassment.

Looking forward to seeing that video, which as Tara herself cut out bits of her own video of the conversation with the police officer, I don't doubt, exists.

Then I hope justice will prevail.

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: TheRedneck

Both parties behaved badly and the motivation seems to be politically fueled; why do I have to repeat myself?

You're showing up here on page FIFTY-EIGHT, not having read the full thread, or watched the several OTHER videos concerning this person.

Mush more information has come out since page one, and it's been shown that in fact, the guy was well within his rights, and even on the phone with police while following her and getting her plate number, make & model.



The key difference with this thread and most similar "SJW" ones is that she has maintained an ACTIVE twitter campaign throughout the whole ordeal, up to and including today, as well as attempting to rally celebrities (or anyone who will listen) to her cause.

Shehas even misrepresented her case to websites and radio stations who have published her story and interviewed her live to try and establish her whole myth of a story as fact. The best part is though, her trail of lies and maniacal character are clearly documentedon the very web she thinks will save her. She has dug her own grave, or woven the web that will snare her.

I checked in early on, and since then basically check back every now and then with bag of popcorn in hand. I do feel a bit dirty for the indulgence, but with the unbelievable nonsense going on in this country it's strangely satisfying to watch the implosion.

I do feel the people close to her honestly need to try and help her though. She's totally self-destructing and going to lose everything that matters to her just because she couldn't control herself over a Trump sign. It's bad when an inanimate object can troll you.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight

If she claims freedom of speech, then I cannot see this being a cut and dried case. Where is the line drawn between freedom of speech and harassment?

Harassment is when one instigates violence against another. Stopping at someone's home and making generalized demeaning statements towards them in responce to a political sign is way, way over the line between free speech and harassment.

Tara is free to express support for her candidate all she wants. As a political candidate, Trump cannot stifle her freedom to speak out against him. As a celebrity, even if by her own propensity of speech, Tara herself has placed herself in the same category. Her victim has not placed himself in celebrity status, nor is he a political figure; therefore he is protected against unreasonable taunts.

In simpler terms, freedom of speech is limited by the right to be secure in one's own home. The more publicly available one becomes, in terms of political activism or celebrity status, the less restrictive that restriction on freedom of speech becomes.

TheRedneck

Doesn't it seem to you that to publicly display your political choice, in what I see as a volatile political environment there, is asking for it?

Wait...seriously? So you, being from whatever country you're from, think it is "asking for it" to show support of a candidate by putting a sign in your yard?

Wow...I'd hate to know what kind of environment YOU live in to fear retaliation for something so small.

What is asking for it is someone that takes a sign in the yard so personally that they berate and bully a person for weeks....the restraint this guy has shown is beyond my capabilities, politically motivated or not...

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight

It will most likely result in the judge telling both parties they behaved badly and start acting like adults.

That is another politically-motivated statement that ignores facts.

Please re-read my statements to you, and try to understand that our laws and court system are obviously quite different than yours.

TheRedneck

If she claims freedom of speech, then I cannot see this being a cut and dried case. Where is the line drawn between freedom of speech and harassment?

So in your country there are not laws about libel, slander & harassment ??? Just from her online actions since that day, this guy has a slam dunk victory in court for at least criminl charges, and probably a settlement.

a reply to: InTheLight

Doesn't it seem to you that to publicly display your political choice, in what I see as a volatile political environment there, is asking for it?

No, but giving someone the finger and calling them a "racist redneck" certainly does.

The signs were not directed at her and were on his private property, not hers, and apparently not even in sight of hers. Her insults were directed at him and were on (or immediately adjacent to) his property. Her actions were personal and invasive; his signs were not.

TheRedneck

InTheLight,
Please tell us what you would have done in "His" situation !
Novem.....

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: InTheLight

They both are political activists, not social justice warriors, from what I viewed on the video and you can bet these types of altercations and violence will only escalate.

I believe she does fall into the category of SJW.
She was triggered by political signs that he placed in his front yard in support of a candidate.

She could just drive right on by without taking action. She chose to do the wrong thing. She also lied to a cop. That is evident if you watched the entire video that she posted (even though I believe that she cut portions of the original video out).

She was triggered by a political sign, hence political triggering and she also claimed 'freedom of speech'. Where does freedom of speech and harassment draw the line?

If the couple felt threatened they should have contacted the police immediately, at the first interaction with this woman, so as to put a stop to it, or have her interviewed as to her intentions (or irrational behaviour - but who determines this?). Because if it is true they have video footage of her car, then they would have her license plate number from day one.

Just like hundreds of other people at political rallies, the frustration is running high and negative and sometimes violent altercations are happening - now it appears to be on the street where you live.

Explain to me how he could report her before the incident if he didn't know who she was. That is why he followed her and called the police. He finally had the information he needed.

No CCTV footage from the house of a car on the road would not yield a readable license plate number.

In my country there is problem
And that problem is the feminist
They take everybody money
And they never give it back

originally posted by: jimmyx
summation of this story.....a lefty got pissed at a righty, and the righty got pissed at a lefty.....hence, 59 pages of, of, what?

Poor summation. She went on a Twitter tirade enlisting a group of people assembled under #teamtara to go after the guy and cop. As well as contacting celebs and ACLU to support her story that looks like it will be proven false. You seem to be very uniformed about this. Read up before blaming both.

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I will leave that decision up to a judge to determine what's what after all the evidence is presented; that would be an unbiased person weighing all the facts, fairly.

And the judge will look at all the evidence and rule on that. InTheLight,If you bothered to view the videos and read everything you'd have an idea of the big picture. The judge will clearly rule the guy is not guilty of anything and will rule in his favor. That is my guess, but the court case will be the final answer.

Notice the guy didn't take his video footage on youtube and rant about her, but instead smartly handled it fairly with the system we have in place for issues like this.

Expect her lawyers to try to seal his video footage if a settlement is reached. I believe his footage should be released to repair his reputation.

Quote from her Twitter today:

Well, here's a thing I won't be going to today but I hope #ChaseyMcRoidRage gets pneumonia from the rain vdausa.org... …

Still hasn't given up an hitting out at the guy. She says she hopes the #ChaseyMcRoidRage (her dismissive pet name for the guy) gets pneumonia. Must be rainy out there today.

Man, just adding more evidence for the coming court case.

i hope her whole city starts driving by her house tooting their horns at all hours, giving her all their opinions on her, according to her its their 1st amendment right to harass someone for how they decorate their garden.

Flipping someone off his hardly a criminal offense. MAYBE a ticket.

Likewise, "following her." Everybody driving behind her vehicle, at any distance or speed, on that street was ... following her. And she was following all the people in the road ahead of her.

He drove to close? Where the hell do drivers NOT follow too close? Maybe he was late to the dentist.

I don't have signs in my yard or on my car, because I don't want to piss people off. I don't give the bird. I don't "Chase" people either.

This is what political zealots are like.

a reply to: redempsh

she was filming his property, stopped her car to call him a racist, is asking for people to ruin his life because he supports trump.

shes the definition of habitual victim, of her own stupidity.

her child should be taken into social services, she is clearly not stable.

originally posted by: redempsh
Flipping someone off his hardly a criminal offense. MAYBE a ticket.

Likewise, "following her." Everybody driving behind her vehicle, at any distance or speed, on that street was ... following her. And she was following all the people in the road ahead of her.

He drove to close? Where the hell do drivers NOT follow too close? Maybe he was late to the dentist.

I don't have signs in my yard or on my car, because I don't want to piss people off. I don't give the bird. I don't "Chase" people either.

This is what political zealots are like.

No this is what a stalker does to an innocent person. Plenty people pass election signs everyday and don't flip off people or create massively targeted Twitter campaigns on innocent people and innocent police.

The court case will reveal all, be patient.

originally posted by: redempsh
Flipping someone off his hardly a criminal offense. MAYBE a ticket.

Likewise, "following her." Everybody driving behind her vehicle, at any distance or speed, on that street was ... following her. And she was following all the people in the road ahead of her.

He drove to close? Where the hell do drivers NOT follow too close? Maybe he was late to the dentist.

I don't have signs in my yard or on my car, because I don't want to piss people off. I don't give the bird. I don't "Chase" people either.

This is what political zealots are like.

You must be new to the thread, read it before you jump to conclusions. She had allegedly been harassing his girlfriend and then him. if someone harassed your family, you'd want to identify them, and that's exactly what he is alleged to have done. On the phone with Police as he followed her. Smart, right? Yes, the right and responsible way to handle it with cops interviewing her, and she was not too smart to film and post her replies. Note that her first video had audio gaps. Wonder why? Wait for the court case to revel all.

originally posted by: bigtrousers
a reply to: redempsh

she was filming his property, stopped her car to call him a racist, is asking for people to ruin his life because he supports trump.

shes the definition of habitual victim, of her own stupidity.

her child should be taken into social services, she is clearly not stable.

This was her early tweet about the officer. It's possible her situation with the kids will be reviewed as well. Wait for the court case for the facts.



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