GRAPHIC: Charlotte protestors strip, beat, and drag naked white man through parking garage.

a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...but took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a completely unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

a reply to: ketsuko

I'm saying it happens

But why do you support one side being generalized over the other?

Do you deny it and do you deny you're just as guilty of it as everyone else?

When did I generalize an entire group of people, even though some were innocent of an wrongdoing?

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

a reply to: introvert

Not remotely.

Last I checked, not all gun owners are in a mob group like the protesters are. Most gun owners are in their own homes minding their own business.

When you have a protest that turns into a riot, it has become something other than the legal action it was, and it's not a protest anymore. It's not an illegal, out of control mob action engaged in criminal activity. Dallas was a peaceful large scale protest. The shooting was not attached to the protest.

This was a protest that turned into a riot, and if your intent was peaceful, you should distance yourself from the violence. It's pretty simple.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

a reply to: introvert

Do I?

I wasn't aware that pointing out that the nature of the thing taking place in the streets changed from protest to riot was generalizing a group of people.

I did not say they were all rioters or all protesters. I said after the action becomes a riot, it looks bad for any protesters who remain the same way it looks bad for a kid to hang out with a group of known addicts even if the kid in question never uses.

Another "racist" dares to tell the truth about BLM being a violent, racist, supremacist terror movement.

a reply to: ketsuko

Last I checked, not all gun owners are in a mob group like the protesters are. Most gun owners are in their own homes minding their own business.

Are your rights dependant upon how many people you are surrounded by?

When you have a protest that turns into a riot, it has become something other than the legal action it was, and it's not a protest anymore.

So they should forfeit their rights and go home?

This was a protest that turned into a riot, and if your intent was peaceful, you should distance yourself from the violence. It's pretty simple.

It's not enough that the peaceful protesters did not engage in violence? They should shut up and go home, huh?

That sounds...constitutional.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, you have generalized. Remember this gem?

And when you decide to kneel or something else for the National Anthem to show your solidarity, this is what you are siding with.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

Your entire point for posting here now is to defend a similar narrative spun by the same people.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

Your entire point for posting here now is to defend a similar narrative spun by the same people.

That is your personal, illogical, opinion.

I cannot and will not defend that which I am not responsible for and disagree with.

Project your nonsense somewhere else. Call ABC and complain.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

Your entire point for posting here now is to defend a similar narrative spun by the same people.

That is your personal, illogical, opinion.

I cannot and will not defend that which I am not responsible for and disagree with.

Project your nonsense somewhere else. Call ABC and complain.

Tell us again how BLM are the victims.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

Your entire point for posting here now is to defend a similar narrative spun by the same people.

That is your personal, illogical, opinion.

I cannot and will not defend that which I am not responsible for and disagree with.

Project your nonsense somewhere else. Call ABC and complain.

Tell us again how BLM are the victims.

I never said BLM are the victims.



Are you trying to deflect after you tried to make some silly argument?

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

Your entire point for posting here now is to defend a similar narrative spun by the same people.

That is your personal, illogical, opinion.

I cannot and will not defend that which I am not responsible for and disagree with.

Project your nonsense somewhere else. Call ABC and complain.

Tell us again how BLM are the victims.

I never said BLM are the victims.

Are you trying to deflect after you tried to make some silly argument?

Were you a defender of the tea party? Honestly. I dont remember, but I highly doubt it.

Reverse the circumstances on this video... Could you imagine what would happen in this country if video circulated of a bunch of white guys last night, grabbing a black dude in a parking garage, beating him, stripping him naked, then ran off laughing after the assault was recorded ... Could you imagine what type of uproar that would cause? It happens to a white dude today and media doesn't report it.. if roles reversed, every news outlet would be showing it non stop...

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

Thing is, as I just got done posting in another thread, once the protest broke down into the riot ... the protesters lost the fight for the message. They should have left because at that point, it wasn't their beast anymore but the other group's and nothing good for them comes of being associated with a riot if their intent was simply peaceful protest.

So they should have stopped exercising their right to assembly and speech because of the way others used their rights...and then took it too far?

That's like saying gun owners should give up their arms because some idiot went on a shooting spree.

Opinions?

ABC news declares clearly violent pro-illegal immigration riots as "mostly peaceful" while labeling a tea party with a complete unsubstantiated claim of "spitting" and racial slurs from one person as "turning ugly"

Take that up with ABC news. I am not accountable for their content.

Cant blame you for punting. It's indefensible. It's your point of view being ENFORCED through our "free" press.

Punting?

You are trying to involve me in a "game" that I am not even playing.

Don't try to blame others for content they are not responsible for and do not try to say it it is my point of view.

You are trying to project their beliefs, or style of reporting, on to me and that is illogical.

Focus on what I have said. Not what you think I believe based on a media source you do not like.

Your entire point for posting here now is to defend a similar narrative spun by the same people.

That is your personal, illogical, opinion.

I cannot and will not defend that which I am not responsible for and disagree with.

Project your nonsense somewhere else. Call ABC and complain.

Tell us again how BLM are the victims.

I never said BLM are the victims.

Are you trying to deflect after you tried to make some silly argument?

Were you a defender of the tea party? Honestly. I dont remember, but I highly doubt it.

I'm not quite sure how the answer to that question negates your incorrect and absurd assumptions.

originally posted by: sirlancelot
I grew up a white kid in a mostly black area. Even 35+ years ago blacks did the same thing! Me and 3 white friends where chased for days after school by 10-15 black kids. Years later a buddy of mine what fighting a black kid and all the sudden 4-5 other black guys join in and it was 2 on 6. I had nothing to do with it but because I was watching my buddy fight they though well let's just go a sucker punch any white kid around! Point is this behavior of "ganging up" is ingrained. Later in my high school days some of my best friends where black and some of my black friends got # from other blacks cause we where friends! I guess in with any race or social setting when you have emotional charged situations things can go bad!

I had the same exact same experience growing up in Michigan. What a PIA! If you don't think black racism isn't real, need to open your eyes. Don't be white n be in a the wrong place. Like many here, I'm third generation Irish (whom were subjected to slavery) and my grandfather was illiterate, far cry from being a white elitist or I would not have attended the same schools. Just a poor white kid whose family was nothing but poor dirt farmers who sold everything for a better life.

Ironically, my best friend is a black female whom I love dearly. We do lunch n go out about once a week and she is fit, very pretty and dresses well. You need to see the looks we get as a couple. Almost betting some think she is a hired date. Strange world we live for in.

Denny

I have nothing profound or insightful to contribute. Just feel compelled to say that this is never justifiable, and it's horrendous.

Peace.