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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Every country on earth has walls separating their borders? Eh... I think you may want to rethink your rhetoric a tad. I'm sure Japan (or most of the 3rd world for that matter) would disagree with you.
You're right, we should be more like 3rd world countries. You guys are impossible to discuss anything with because you actively deny reality and purposely play dumb.
Deny reality like saying that all 196 countries in the world are surrounded by walls? I only mentioned Japan and the 3rd world because I thought that would be enough to make you see how ignorant your comment was, but I guess not.
Let's see: Canada doesn't have a wall. Most of Europe doesn't have walls surrounding their countries. No walls in South America. No walls around Russia. No walls in the middle east. No walls in Africa.
originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: theantediluvian
So true. I brought up the movie Gangs of New York earlier in the thread. If you watch it you'll see the actors making a lot of the same nativist arguments that are made today about Mexicans and that movie is historical bi-op on the immigration waves at the turn of the 20th century.
A review of the history of immigration in this country will prove just about all of the right wing's fears about illegals to be false.
That was a movie. You act as if the lines spoken in the movie are from that time period. They're not..............What a stupid argument.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: thinline
America has laws. Immigration laws are on the books. I want the immigration laws to be enforced for everyone. There is a portion of the population that doesn't, why do you support criminal acts? The main focus of people who support the criminals are saying that building a wall to help enforce American immigration law is racist?
My questions is, why are give special treatment to Mexicans? Why are you for #MexicanPrivilege? Shouldn't you judge people on the content of their character? The people who make a conscious decision to break American laws? Over the color of their skin?
Why should the Mexican criminals get better treatment then people who are trying to do the right thing, and are following the laws?
Basically, if you don't want the laws to be followed equally and you want to give special privilege to one set group, isn't that against all you believe in?
Stop #MexicanPrivlidge
Because it is all about votes.. The exact same reason the GOP pushes voter ID.
People have done the math to know that their side gets/restricts more votes.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: thinline
The main focus of people who support the criminals are saying that building a wall to help enforce American immigration law is racist?
The problem isn't how secure to build a wall. They can always tunnel under, fly over, or go round it. Or bribe the guards at the gates.
My questions is, why are give special treatment to Mexicans?
They are treated like slaves once they get to the big farming conglomerates. Thing is for some of them, even slave wages is better than what they had back home.
As long as the big corporations continue to use them for slave labor, they will keep coming, regardless of border 'control measures'.
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: xstealth
i would like to see the numbers of israeli attacks against palestinians.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: RickinVa
My philosophy is simple.
As long as there are homeless American citizens living on the streets, there should be no immigration. Period.
Take care of your own first and then worry about the other "3rd world citizens".
Just saying.
Do you also support sending back 11 million undocumented Hispanics?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Here's the way I look at it.
People who live in countries where poverty is the norm, or people who live in countries where war and anarchy rule, or people who live in countries run by cartels, i.e., people who live in fear for their lives and their families' lives -- these people who make the trek to our country should be given sanctuary here. This is what our country has been about since its beginning. People who are persecuted and people who are suffering should have some recourse other than waiting years and spending $$$ to escape. Some people don't have years and $$$. Their families are dying NOW.
If people who come here from Mexico are working hard and are not stealing from or killing or raping or otherwise hurting anyone, they should be allowed to stay. That's how I look at it anyway. It's not Mexican privilege. It's sharing the American privilege.