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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen
The tweet from the secret service was a lie?
Nice to know.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: marg6043
They did, and have. I heard what he said. It sounded like he wanted the pro 2nd amendment voters to use their vote against her.
First of all, it shows his ignorance of the Constitution. A President cannot simply invalidate an amendment, as much as he is looking forward to doing so.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JinMI
The Voting Power of 95 Million American Gun Owners . In Reality , that is what he was eluding to , not what some others might Read Into that for some Imagined LAME Political Gain .
No way was he talking about voting. Once Hillary becomes president and puts her judges in the Supreme Court, those judges are in there for life. That's why he said, "there's nothing you can do". No amount of voting will change the judges who have already been appointed. Right after he said "there's nothing you can do" is when he made the comment about the second amendment people and implied maybe there was something they could do after all. Since voting wouldn't help after the judges had already been appointed, what else do you think he could have meant when referring to those second amendment people?
His claim that he was referring to voting power is an outright LIE.
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JinMI
The Voting Power of 95 Million American Gun Owners . In Reality , that is what he was eluding to , not what some others might Read Into that for some Imagined LAME Political Gain .
No way was he talking about voting. Once Hillary becomes president and puts her judges in the Supreme Court, those judges are in there for life. That's why he said, "there's nothing you can do". No amount of voting will change the judges who have already been appointed. Right after he said "there's nothing you can do" is when he made the comment about the second amendment people and implied maybe there was something they could do after all. Since voting wouldn't help after the judges had already been appointed, what else do you think he could have meant when referring to those second amendment people?
His claim that he was referring to voting power is an outright LIE.
If that is what you Really Believe , then All Power to You . If you are Sorely Mistaken though , then what do you put your Belief in ?
originally posted by: JinMI
This is the kind of crap that just irks me to the core.
(CNN) — A US Secret Service official confirms to CNN that the USSS has spoken to the Trump campaign regarding his Second Amendment comments.
"No such meeting or conversation ever happened," Trump tweeted in response to CNN's report.
There should be some sort of responsibility in media. I get it, Clinton News Network. Truth is this will be forgotten about in a day or two and on to the next bonehead story.
"Words matter my friends, and if you are running to be president or you are president of the United States, words can have tremendous consequences," Clinton said. "Yesterday we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from Donald Trump that cross the line."
Words matter. Does intent?
Link to CNN story
No, but four Supreme Court Justices can, for all intents and purposes.
Anyway, the Secret Service finally came out today and refuted CNN's story.
So, yeah, CNN simply made the whole thing up.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Harte
No, but four Supreme Court Justices can, for all intents and purposes.
Anyway, the Secret Service finally came out today and refuted CNN's story.
So, yeah, CNN simply made the whole thing up.
I missed that. Could you link to the story? Incidentally, if they haven't started looking into Trump, it is a dereliction of duty.
originally posted by: avp251
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SudoNim
Wow, try again. Your really having trouble comprehending.
When are the moderators going to start doing something about all of the CTR shills destroying every conversation on this forum?
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originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Harte
No, but four Supreme Court Justices can, for all intents and purposes.
Anyway, the Secret Service finally came out today and refuted CNN's story.
So, yeah, CNN simply made the whole thing up.
I missed that. Could you link to the story? Incidentally, if they haven't started looking into Trump, it is a dereliction of duty.
Link
Harte
The Secret Service has not formally spoken to Donald Trump regarding a suggestion that “Second Amendment people” could stop Hillary Clinton from curbing gun rights, according to a federal official. CNN previously reported that the agency had done so.
[Edit for brevity --DJW001]
A federal official familiar with the matter also told Reuters that there had been no formal conversations between the Secret Service and the Trump campaign regarding the Tuesday statements.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Harte
No, but four Supreme Court Justices can, for all intents and purposes.
Anyway, the Secret Service finally came out today and refuted CNN's story.
So, yeah, CNN simply made the whole thing up.
I missed that. Could you link to the story? Incidentally, if they haven't started looking into Trump, it is a dereliction of duty.
Link
Harte
I am surprised that someone of your intelligence would stoop to to such a cheap trick. Your link does not work, not that it matters. Here is what the Secret Service has said, from a source that you now, sadly, consider reliable:
The Secret Service has not formally spoken to Donald Trump regarding a suggestion that “Second Amendment people” could stop Hillary Clinton from curbing gun rights, according to a federal official. CNN previously reported that the agency had done so.
[Edit for brevity --DJW001]
A federal official familiar with the matter also told Reuters that there had been no formal conversations between the Secret Service and the Trump campaign regarding the Tuesday statements.
An impeccable source.[Emphasis mine. --DJW001]
I assume you understand when a government body specifies that they have had no formal words with someone, it means that they have had unofficial words, otherwise they would have said that they have had no words at all.
I'm surprised that someone of your intelligence could not get a google search link to work.
Regarding the rest of your post, of course the SS has had conversations with both candidates.
If you would only stop and think about it, you might be able to see the sense in that.
Additionally, read the OP and tell me where it says anything about "informal" conversations.
A federal official on Wednesday said the U.S. Secret Service had not formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump's presidential campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms.
The story was a fabrication.
The SS never spoke to Trump about this.
(CNN) — A US Secret Service official confirms to CNN that the USSS has spoken to the Trump campaign regarding his Second Amendment comments.
You seem to be too butt hurt to grasp the facts of the situation.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Harte
I'm surprised that someone of your intelligence could not get a google search link to work.
You should try the link before resorting to sarcasm. When it did work, all the stories were about Trump denying that the Secret Service spoke with him. That wasn't the issue.
A federal official on Wednesday said the U.S. Secret Service had not formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump's presidential campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms.
originally posted by: DJW001
Regarding the rest of your post, of course the SS has had conversations with both candidates.
So where is the disagreement?
If you would only stop and think about it, you might be able to see the sense in that.
You're the one implying that they didn't.
Additionally, read the OP and tell me where it says anything about "informal" conversations.
Perhaps I have more sources to draw on:
A federal official on Wednesday said the U.S. Secret Service had not formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump's presidential campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms.
www.reuters.com... [Emphasis mine. --DJW001]
The story was a fabrication.
There is no reason to believe it was, other than Donald's word. He says a lot of things that are not quite true.
originally posted by: DJW001
The SS never spoke to Trump about this.
CNN never said they did. An official told CNN on background that they spoke to his campaign:
(CNN) — A US Secret Service official confirms to CNN that the USSS has spoken to the Trump campaign regarding his Second Amendment comments.
www.cnn.com... [Emphasis mine. --DJW001]
You seem to be too butt hurt to grasp the facts of the situation.
I'm not the one who can't grasp the facts: Trump is. Just because his campaign staff did not tell him about the meetings does not mean they did not happen. That sort of thing probably happens a lot with him; he doesn't like being informed of things because he's positive he already knows everything.