Did Fallen Angels slept with the grandchildren of Adam & Eve?

a reply to: Rapha

I think El is actually the Most High and not Yahweh/Baal.

Angel is Malakh or messenger and their names are late creations, when the two had been conflated by Isaiah and Judaism in general.

So I trust if I see an angel that it is an angel of the REAL El Elyon and not Yahoveh.

I have never seen one though, I love mythology is all. 72 is the number of the Elohim and 70 the number of the Sons of El in Canaanite mythology that predates Abraham.

So as the Israelites forsake the Most High and the world adopts Yahweh as God , the world has been tricked into believing that Satan is the enemy when he works for Yahweh and not the Most High (according to Job) who has been falsley thought to be Yahweh.

The cruel "god of Israel" is Saturn, Baal.

El is Jew Pater or Jupiter. I don't know if it is relevant that it sounds that way or not, I usually don't believe in coincidence though and Peter was a Jew, before that I think Jove is what Jupiter was called.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Muffenstuff

I think you

may live in a different galactic cluster

or perhaps

use a very different dictionary

or perhaps

have not had any relationship with Yehovah.

Your assertions and assumptions about Him are off the wall.

And, it doesn't sound like you've read anything near the same OT I have.

I think you spend too much not reading it because everything I said is in there. You just don't do due diligence to find out what you worship is all. I do.

I see how that makes me look nuts TO YOU, do you see how worshipping a god who orders genocide and commits infanticide seems crazy to me?

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Ba'al and Ashteroth were Caananite deities, YHWH hated the Israelities worshipping them in the OT and judged the Caananites and the Jews who worshipped them. If you go back to the story of Elijah on Mt. Carmel at the time of King Ahab you'll read about the showdown between Elijah and the prophets of Ba'al and prophetesses of Ashteroth.

YHWH showed He was the true God and Ba'al and Ashteroth were false Gods.

here's how it was explained to me
1) Adam & Eve get kicked out of Eden. Adam must now work for a living ('by the sweat of your brow you shall eat your bread').

2) angels ('sons of God') took human form to live with humans and teach them how to grow crops, build fires, cook, make clothes, etc. this era is referred to as the Morning of the Magicians.
numerous ancient accounts speak of higher beings who come down and help guide early man (Prometheus, Kukulkan, Oannes, etc.)

3) some of these angels were so attracted to human females that they gave in to the desires of their human bodies and coupled with them. the resulting progeny were the infamous Nephilim. (Greek myths are full of such stories, such as Hercules' origin.)
the New Testament emphasizes that Jesus took human form and sinned not, perhaps intended as a rebuke to these fallen ones. some of these may be the imprisoned spirits Jesus spoke to, mentioned in I Peter 3:19.

4) there's a theory that the tainted bloodline threatened to overcome humanity and this was part of the reason for the flood. supposedly a tiny strain of the giant blood remained, leading to Goliath and his family, all presumably exterminated.

another theory is that possession-type demons are the spirits of the nephilim, adrift without their bodies and looking for others to inhabit.
yet another theory is that bigfoot is descended from the nephilim, or maybe surviving examples, hence their near-supernatural abilities to hide.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

I see how you still appear to be very . . . unaware . . .

of The Yehovah I know . . . and The Yehovah of the Bible.

I see how you still appear to be very smug in judging Yehovah.

I've never found that to be a life-producing stance, attitude, perspective.

a reply to: ElGoobero

It was not that a tiny strain of the fallen angel bloodline remained.

There were merely LOTS of fallen angels who did not take up bodies to hump human women and were therefore, not killed in the flood. Those that were, their spirits became demons.

Those who had not taken the mortal body route to hump women . . . some at later times, after the flood, DID do so--resulting in more such offspring, hybrids etc.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
There were merely LOTS of fallen angels who did not take up bodies to hump human women and were therefore, not killed in the flood. Those that were, their spirits became demons.

Those who had not taken the mortal body route to hump women . . . some at later times, after the flood, DID do so--resulting in more such offspring, hybrids etc.

So if the ultimate Mr know it all Yehovah, who knows the past, present and future; how come He didn't see the complete and utter disaster that occurred after His initially successful start to Day 6 ?

Unless of course Yahweh is an alien that feeds of fear, misery, suffering and death which explains where Divide & Conquer originated from.

Looks like Yahweh and his goons have such WARPed minds they are really sinister seeing that His precious World War between Islam and Christianity has been up and running since Gulf War I 1991.

Yahweh even sends in one of his fallen angels to possess one of the nailers who nailed Jesus's limbs to the Cross. How sick is that ? Apparently, the fallen angel, loved it and smiled with joy at every swipe of his host's hammer.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

But you don't need to breed to have sex.

Likewise you don't need to have sex to breed, test tube babies, babylonian steles come to mind

a reply to: tikbalang

its a philosophical discussion..

Well it is in the faith forum...philosophy of belief? Please come back and shed some opinion

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Hell it's far more likely that an alien and a human couldn't have sex altogether, but if it is possible no kids could come of it. That is a guarantee.

Do you think all aliens fall only into the "greys big eyes category?"

There are no guarantees - keep up...here's some reading for you
If we could do it with animals?

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originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Muffenstuff

I see how you still appear to be very . . . unaware . . .

of The Yehovah I know . . . and The Yehovah of the Bible.

Just because you imagine to have knowledge of Yahweh doesn't make it reality. I obviously know the scriptures better than you so I think you are just being adversarial because I use logic and you use blind faith and acceptance of what you are told.

Your ridiculous insinuation that I am somehow unaware is a blind guess as to the extent of my knowledge.

Feel free to test it.

I see how you still appear to be very smug in judging Yehovah.

I've never found that to be a life-producing stance, attitude, perspective.

I am not dead so what does that say? I have excellent perspective and a great attitude, I find conformity the apex of foolishness and you are claiming (out of fear of hell or thinking it will gain you entrance to heaven) to "KNOW" that which is unknown and unknowable.

Biblically speaking Yahweh is a bloodthirsty predator and I doubt you have read the Bible because he boasts of it often. I think I will stay on my course of non conformity and search for the TRUE God. Anyone who says they know God has no evidence and is not telling the truth, just the contents of their imagination.

a reply to: Rapha

ALMIGHTY God, Yehovah, has a different perspective .

Guess which perspective wins.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Muffenstuff

Ba'al and Ashteroth were Caananite deities, YHWH hated the Israelities worshipping them in the OT and judged the Caananites and the Jews who worshipped them. If you go back to the story of Elijah on Mt. Carmel at the time of King Ahab you'll read about the showdown between Elijah and the prophets of Ba'al and prophetesses of Ashteroth.

YHWH showed He was the true God and Ba'al and Ashteroth were false Gods.

Israelites were Canaanites, worshipped Babylonian God's and took Baal back to Israel and changed his name to Yahweh and wrote a religion based on him after Babylon. Every book of the Bible is post Babylonian exile and the Jews actually loved it there. Most stayed behind and didn't return to Jerusalem but the ones who did worshipped Baal under the name Yahweh. Baal means Lord in Hebrew as does Adonai. The Lord is Baal. God is El and you have to have no knowledge of Hebrew to not realize how you are being scammed by assuming that Yahweh is not Baal.


Everything you just said is the result of name changing trickery and I have researched it to death.

Asherah was the consort of Baal who is the Phoenicians IAO (Greek word for Yahweh)and the Hebrews Yahweh.

Culture wars change the names of God's but the God's don't change, just the names. Do a competent investigation and you WILL discover that Baal is Yahweh. Baal/Lord/Yahweh are all the same and Israel had the name Yahweh for their Baal.

IAO is Baal too, and the Greek rendering of YHVH. You don't know history very well and are in love with your religion so history and reality have lost significance.

Which is fine, you will die someday and then realize the extent of the lie that this Yahweh is God.

I can wait.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

Well enlightenment didn't come without the choice made to usurp the demiurge's orders. Ha Satan and the nephilim weren't necessarily in cahoots. You mustn't look at everything through the filter of christianity.

a reply to: Elsemyazazededera

other cultures as a Succubus or Vampiress and has inspired feminist movements

now, now...you were doing well until this. The feminist movement was largely pushed by the modern male capitalist - how else to make it morally acceptable to have women in the workforce rather than just staying at home as full time mums making babies.
You must also bear in mind that monotheism was a rare occurrence and not the norm in the time frame we're looking at. Along with the push for monotheism of middle east the female gods were made anathema.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
ALMIGHTY God, Yehovah, has a different perspective .

Guess which perspective wins.

Justice wins on Judgement Day where every entity that has held mortal humans back in the dark ages for the past 2 centuries, will be judged by the peasants and damned to the Lake of Fire.

Yehovah threw a hissy fit against that man who buried his 1 single talent in the sand. Yet He is INCAPABLE of dishing out Justice against His elite goons who have buried millions of talents, worldwide, since the financial collapse of 2008.

The poor peasants will Judge Him to hell for Crimes Against Humanity.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Just because you imagine to have knowledge of Yahweh doesn't make it reality. I obviously know the scriptures better than you so I think you are just being adversarial because I use logic and you use blind faith and acceptance of what you are told.

UNMITIGATED NONSENSE.

As I've noted . . . during a long dark night of the soul--5 years long--I ended up stripped of virtually all my beliefs. I only KNEW that God existed and that I still believed that the Bible was His revealed Word.

I had to work things back one tiny step at a time from there--in a very earnest dialogue and dance with Yehovah.

Thankfully, you weren't there to throw rocks at the process.

What I believe has been birthed out of the nitty gritty of my life.

You don't have to believe that.

You could, instead, go chase a duck or suck rocks in terms of the usefulness of your blather.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Muffenstuff

Just because you imagine to have knowledge of Yahweh doesn't make it reality. I obviously know the scriptures better than you so I think you are just being adversarial because I use logic and you use blind faith and acceptance of what you are told.

UNMITIGATED NONSENSE.

As I've noted . . . during a long dark night of the soul--5 years long--I ended up stripped of virtually all my beliefs. I only KNEW that God existed and that I still believed that the Bible was His revealed Word.

I had to work things back one tiny step at a time from there--in a very earnest dialogue and dance with Yehovah.

Thankfully, you weren't there to throw rocks at the process.

What I believe has been birthed out of the nitty gritty of my life.

You don't have to believe that.

You could, instead, go chase a duck or suck rocks in terms of the usefulness of your blather.

Very pious words and can tell you are a true bastion of righteousness and Holyness.

a reply to: Elsemyazazededera

www.goroadachi.com...

This is a typical English translation of Genesis 6:4 that contains some errors, including the last phrase, 'men of renown'. It may be more accurately rendered as ‘the people of the shem’.[2]

What, then, is the 'shem'? The persistence of biblical translators to employ "name" wherever they encounter shem has ignored a farsighted study published more than a century ago by G. M. Redslob… in which he correctly pointed out that the term shem and the term shamaim (“heaven”) stem from the root word shamah, meaning "that which is highward."[3] The shem was also closely linked with fire and a stone; the shem thus was a 'highward fire-stone'.[4]

In other words, it seems to be a reference to none other than a 'heavenly stone'. Strongly corroborating this is the fact that: Shems were particularly associated with something called an-na, which meant 'heavenly stone', a term that was also used to define a shining metal. The use of the word shem in respect of its 'shining' aspect is apparent in the alternative name for Prince Utu, brother of Inanna… His epithet was Shem-esh: the Shining One.[5]

As 'Shining Ones' is another epithet for the Watchers, it can be inferred that the Nephilim were the 'people of the shem'... or that the 'fallen angels' are to be considered the 'people of the heavenly stone'. So, in a sense, the Watchers are the personification of the heavenly stone.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

I'm exceedingly flawed--every bit a sinner.

I do, however, endeavor to stay 'confessed-up,' 'repented-up,' 'forgiving-up' and to 'do unto others' as much as I seem able to manage out of a sincere heart to do so.