Did Fallen Angels slept with the grandchildren of Adam & Eve?

What is god.... and why would angels... who know him... throw away the great life just to be with woman...????

originally posted by: Pinocchio
What is god.... and why would angels... who know him... throw away the great life just to be with woman...????

The answer depends upon how much of an open mind you have.

Aliens option: according to theory in accordance to Warhammer 40k concerning the fictional race, the elder / Vulcan / elves, they are currently a dying race. They can only continue multiplying by fornicating with humans.

They are blue eyed, blonde, pale skin and low crown foreheads. This explains how the Caucasian humans were created as initially all humans were clay based creatures with brown eyes, brown skin and brown hair. Proves that mankind originated from the Middle East near the river Tigress.
Even the Bible mentioned this where it says that 'clay must never mix with iron'. Humans were initially clay based. Elves are more iron based which explains how some people can divine for water simply because the world static charge of electrons passes through their bodies easier. Water flows through mineral veins that are charged with + valency elements like Cu++, Fe++, Zn++ and so on. They detect the mineral vein, not the water when their static charged sticks cross.

So for the pointy ear elves (Vulcan) to maintain their population, they had to pro-create with human brown skins and in time emigrated to Europe.

The dragons (Lucifer) have black hair, high crown foreheads and hazel/green eyes. Notice how China worships the Dragon in their mythology and their hair is all black.

They are at war with the Caucasians, which explains why the dragon queen ships were heading east in Game of Thrones at the end of the last series. In reality, China with its dragons are about to strike America which is east of China.

The Biblical side is so limited in scope and has many blank areas. Example: If God knows everything, then why did he let his traitor Lucifer into the Garden of Eden and screw up Day 6 with the Apple of Knowledge event ?

A intelligent God would have created hell, picked up Lucifer and dropped him into the flame lake before the Apple event.

However, the elves need new recruits and the Luciferian church come up with a lame excuse of 'oh He moves in mysterious ways'. Yeah, like letting a terrorist destroy what He loves so much, dah.

The elves want new soldiers, the dragons who are at war with the elves want to wipe out their potential new recruits. Hence the constant battle where TPTB (Luciferians) want a nuclear war and the spiritual people want Mother Gaia and World Peace (Elves).

originally posted by: Pinocchio
What is god.... and why would angels... who know him... throw away the great life just to be with woman...????

They threw it away before man was created, the fall of Satan and 1/3 of the Angels happened before Adam was created. When they took wives and created Nephilim they were trying to pollute the human bloodline that the Messiah would come through. Satan knew from the garden that his defeat would come through the seed of the woman prophecy.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Christians call Islam a pagan religion even though Christianity has 3 Gods to Islams 1.

Pagan simply means not Judeo-Christian.

Christianity doesn't believe or teach that, we believe in 1 God as the Shema clearly declares, and God exists as 3 distinct personalities, co-equal, co-sovereign, and co-eternal. We call this the Godhead. One God. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are called "monotheistic" religions of the world. Monotheistic is just a big name that means "one God".

I would say no because adam and eve is just a story. They never existed.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
Pagan simply means not Judeo-Christian.

Christianity doesn't believe or teach that, we believe in 1 God as the Shema clearly declares, and God exists as 3 distinct personalities, co-equal, co-sovereign, and co-eternal. We call this the Godhead. One God. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are called "monotheistic" religions of the world. Monotheistic is just a big name that means "one God".

Was Jesus lying when he said the father was greater than him?
Either they are equal or Jesus was lying, you seem to be suggesting the latter.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

Text Did Fallen Angels slept with the grandchildren of Adam & Eve?

According to the Hebrew Torah they did. But when you combine one Enoch along with Torah and the NT then you have a sort of mixed review.

My understanding of this is that we have two distinct angelic happenings. The first is the Satan (some call Lucifer)( and one third of the heavenly host being cast out of heaven and down to this earth. The NT tells us these angels are all imprisoned in Sheol (Hell) and will be till Hell is cast into the lake of fire. So in effect this first group have not procreated with the human seed and never will.

Then we have a second group of two hundred angels who willingly left heaven and took wives some 460 years after Adam and in the days of Yered. These are the angels that mated with humans and produced the three races of whom were destroyed in the flood of Noah. Their spirits were then imprisoned for a given time and then released shortly before the birth of Jesus. These are the evil spirits (Satan's) who Jesus dealt with during His ministry and who today oppress the living.

Now in Revelation it is taught that before the first resurrection the first group will be let loose upon the earth and then imprisoned once again. Lots of different traditions on all of this. Wanted to keep it short.

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
Pagan simply means not Judeo-Christian.

Christianity doesn't believe or teach that, we believe in 1 God as the Shema clearly declares, and God exists as 3 distinct personalities, co-equal, co-sovereign, and co-eternal. We call this the Godhead. One God. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are called "monotheistic" religions of the world. Monotheistic is just a big name that means "one God".

Was Jesus lying when he said the father was greater than him?
Either they are equal or Jesus was lying, you seem to be suggesting the latter.

Greater in office, not greater in substance. Jesus also said if people had seen Him they have seen the Father. I can make the same comparison Jesus made to the Father if I said that Barack Obama is a greater man than me, he is, his office is President of the United States. But me saying that doesn't make me less of a man than he is, we are both equal in that standpoint. The Father was sitting in heaven and on a throne when Jesus said the Father was greater than Him, Jesus had lowered Himself and taken on the flesh of a man. In that context the Father was greater before Jesus was resurrected with His glorified body.

Another example of this is when Jesus said nobody born of a woman to date was greater than John the Baptist. By that statement of honor Jesus wasn't implying John was a superhuman or everyone else was subhuman, it meant John had the greatest honor yet of anyone born before him. Good question though, I appreciate it.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
Pagan simply means not Judeo-Christian.

Christianity doesn't believe or teach that, we believe in 1 God as the Shema clearly declares, and God exists as 3 distinct personalities, co-equal, co-sovereign, and co-eternal. We call this the Godhead. One God. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are called "monotheistic" religions of the world. Monotheistic is just a big name that means "one God".

Was Jesus lying when he said the father was greater than him?
Either they are equal or Jesus was lying, you seem to be suggesting the latter.

Greater in office, not greater in substance. Jesus also said if people had seen Him they have seen the Father. I can make the same comparison Jesus made to the Father if I said that Barack Obama is a greater man than me, he is, his office is President of the United States. But me saying that doesn't make me less of a man than he is, we are both equal in that standpoint. The Father was sitting in heaven and on a throne when Jesus said the Father was greater than Him, Jesus had lowered Himself and taken on the flesh of a man. In that context the Father was greater before Jesus was resurrected with His glorified body.

Another example of this is when Jesus said nobody born of a woman to date was greater than John the Baptist. By that statement of honor Jesus wasn't implying John was a superhuman or everyone else was subhuman, it meant John had the greatest honor yet of anyone born before him. Good question though, I appreciate it.

Except for when Jesus said this....

Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

There is no "Trinity". Jesus was totally filled with the Spirit of HIS GOD. That's also why He said that if He didn't go back to the Father, then the "Comforter" or "Spirit of Truth" would not be released into this world. Jesus was the embodiment of truth...who's truth? The FATHER'S truth. That's why John called Him "the Word made flesh". He was the FATHER'S word...in human body.
Everything Jesus spoke, did, miracles performed, were because He was filled with that ultimate TRUTH from the Father. So, think of it this way...when Jesus' mouth was moving and words were coming out...they weren't HIS words, but the Father's through the HS.
That's also why the corrupt sacrificial priesthood set Him up and murdered Him. Because HE TOLD THE TRUTH and showed those around Him who the TRUE God was.
He sole mission was to "bear witness to the TRUTH". Not to be a blood sacrifice.

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

I wonder why Jesus didn't rebuke anyone for worshipping Him after He told Satan that man shall worship God alone when He was being tempted in the desert? Not only that, it would have been a good time to rebuke Thomas after Jesus resurrected and Thomas said "my Lord and my God".

His sole mission was to "bear witness to the TRUTH". Not to be a blood sacrifice.

Jesus disagrees..


"For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." - Matthew 26:28

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: tikbalang

Impossible. We can't have children with other species of animals. What makes you think we'd be able to be to have children with a lifeform that would have no where near the same DNA as us? So I don't think that is something you need to worry about. Hell it's far more likely that an alien and a human couldn't have sex altogether, but if it is possible no kids could come of it. That is a guarantee.

We were supposedly created in their image I'm assuming with their dna mixed with the ape like mammals that were around at that point. So therfore we would be capable of procreation with them.

a reply to: benZadok

Ask a Jew if there are fallen angels they will tell you no because the Tanakh doesn't have fallen angels.

The Jews who placed the dead sea scrolls tell a different story. There were numerous scrolls that embraced one Enoch as shown to be well read and sacred literature. Scrolls 4Q203, 1Q23, 2Q26, 4Q530-532, and 6Q8 Will enhance Gen. 6:1,2,4 -- This is just for starts. There is much literature that will embrace second and third Enoch also. Enochian literature is well known in Ethiopia also and in fact the most complete is from Ethiopia. And yes, they are Jewish.

Most prevailing Jewish doctrines do not believe angels can sin but then the dead sea scrolls have revealed that rabbinical doctrine does conflict with other sects of Judaic teachings and even with proven literature will or cannot change their vast libraries that would embarrass them forever. That denial is one of their central themes.

originally posted by: Pinocchio
What is god.... and why would angels... who know him... throw away the great life just to be with woman...????

Sounds a bit like the whole Eden story spread upwards the hierarchy of their divine princes.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

The way I understand this part of Genesis, is that older people got what appears to be giant offspring-- with the latter daughters of the generation of humankind in the days of Enoch. Giant offspring or tiny mothers? This is fears and judgement from the darker lakes of fire and the stuff of the most horrid of nightmares.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

It's written in the Dead Sea Scrolls that Noah was believed by Lamech to be a son of the Watchers.

Jubilees and Enoch were in use by these people and are from the same sect of ancient Judaism that morphed into the Nazarenes before being co opted by Romans as an anti Judaic from of Messianic Judaism.

But Noah was definitely of suspicious lineage and I would say that he may have had Watcher genes and Jubilees may be referring to the Watchers in the line of Seth, after all Nimrod was a Rephaim and son of Cush so Noah must have had the genes of the Watchers which means so do we!!!