Why Are Bernie Supporters Being Disrespected And Humiliated By Their Fellow Democrats ?

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Maybe if instead of saying bernie was a commie, and bernouts where sjw idiots, maybe if the right would have played nicer in the sandbox some might have voted trump.

You cant insult and bully people then turn around and say why dont you guys like us.

Curious, that the post above yours explains that Bernie people that won't vote for Hillary are insane.
Talk about being nice!

Opinions my friend everyone has them.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Why Are Bernie Supporters Being Disrespected And Humiliated By Their Fellow Democrats ?

If the campaign race is any evidence whatsoever, that's what democrats do. These are the same people who, with their behavior, are making others jump ship to vote for Trump.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Well I followed the 2008 election very closely, I read hundreds of comments on forums on both the right and left,
and read dozens of articles. And my memory was that the DNC was united at the end, and that's why they beat McCain.
Yes McCain lost the Ron Paul people, but that was a much smaller group than in 2012, even here at ATS things were much different between 2008 and 2012. You weren't even on ATS back then, so even that limits your perspective.

I have to disagree with you on this, and end results seem to back me up.

I was for Ron Paul in 2008, but then wanted Obama to win because McCain was such a huge neocon, I had hoped in his hope and peace mantra which basically dissolved into oblivion, what a disappointment.
There was no change.

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Maybe if instead of saying bernie was a commie, and bernouts where sjw idiots, maybe if the right would have played nicer in the sandbox some might have voted trump.

You cant insult and bully people then turn around and say why dont you guys like us.

The ultimate irony is thinking that we won't see communism because Bernie is gone but in truth, we'll see it even more when Hillary gets in.

Look how the DNC was run!

There is no irony, you guys are grasping at straws to insult the left more and more, and thats why the right wont win even if hillary is an evil witch.

hahahahahaha

There is no "winner".

Only losers, the tax payers and the rest of the globe.

Winners and losers sounds like "hope and change" and someone is gonna save us!

a reply to: TheTory

If the campaign race is any evidence whatsoever, that's what democrats do.

You seem to be getting the parties mixed up. Hillary wasn't the one calling everyone else "losers."

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: TheTory

If the campaign race is any evidence whatsoever, that's what democrats do.

You seem to be getting the parties mixed up. Hillary wasn't the one calling everyone else "losers."

You must be mixing me up with someone else. I don't think I said Hilary called people losers.

This disrespect and disdain of Bernie Sander's supporters by the DNC/Hillary started back when Bernie's messages started achieving wide-reaching appeal.. in the Fall of 2015, according to the hacked DNC e-mails.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Well I followed the 2008 election very closely, I read hundreds of comments on forums on both the right and left,
And many dozens of articles. And my memory was that the DNC was united at the end, and that's why they beat McCain.
Yes McCain lost the Ron Paul people, but that was a much smaller group than in 2012, even here at ATS things were much different between 2008 and 2012. You weren't even on ATS back then, so even that limits your perspective.

I have to disagree with you on this, and end results seem to back me up.

I was for Ron Paul in 2008, but then wanted Obama to win because McCain was such a huge neocon, I had hoped in his hope and peace mantra which basically dissolved into oblivion, what a disappointment.
There was no change.

Obama won, but Hillary voters were resolved to not vote for Obama in far greater numbers than Bernie supporters are resolved to not vote for Hillary. And when Hillary wins, the end result will prove that I am correct, too. In fact, Hillary's latest polling shows Bernie supporters getting on board the Hillary train.

Believe me, I followed the 2008 election as closely as anyone.

Agree about Obama though. He turned out to not be the progressive, anti-war candidate he sold himself as. He ended up extending the neocon agenda.

The DNC leadership chooses their own candidate every time. I don't know why anyone belongs to that corrupt, un-democratic party. They give their members nothing but grief and abuse.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

but Hillary voters were resolved to not vote for Obama in far greater numbers than Bernie supporters are resolved to not vote for Hillary. And when Hillary wins, the end result will prove that I am correct, too. In fact, Hillary's latest polling shows Bernie supporters getting on board the Hillary train.

Nope



And here is the best thing that I found to reflect the mood of many Americans right now

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: TheTory

If the campaign race is any evidence whatsoever, that's what democrats do.

You seem to be getting the parties mixed up. Hillary wasn't the one calling everyone else "losers."

But Bill Clinton might have .......

Bill Clinton: Sanders supporters 'will be toast’

Former President Bill Clinton did not mince his words when Bernie Sanders supporters heckled him during a campaign event for Hillary Clinton.

“If I were them, I’d be screaming too because they know they will be toast by election day,” Clinton said, according to a Fox News reporter at the event.

The willful ignorance is depressing.

Ignore all the blatant corruption displayed throughout the career of Hillary and focus on a non proven conspiracy theory to deflect from proven election fraud committed by the DNC.

Alinsky's plan to a 'T'.

The DNC committed election fraud to get Hillary the nomination- But that exposed information could have come from Russia, and Trump asked Russia to show it all if they have it, so the CRIME committed by the DNC doesn't count, we will ignore it. SMH

The support of this proven career criminal and liar is beyond any words I have.

I can not believe what this country has devolved into, it was a great experiment while it lasted.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Link? I have no idea how this poll was conducted. The one I saw showed 85% of Bernie supporters voting for Hillary.

I can't help but notice how Hillary voters, and those who are now voting for her after supporting Bernie, are also being "disrespected" and vilified by Bernie supporters who are not voting for her -- there is a lot being slung around on both sides.

None of it is a good thing, and if you want to vote Green or Lib or write=in someone, then by all means do as your conscience dictates.

I REALLY don't want Trump to win. I have very good reasons for that. Hillary does know how to get things done in the long boring slog that is "lawmaking."

Bernie fought hard to get his ideas into the Democratic Platform, "he lit the flame, now hold their feet to the fire."

So let's get the PLATFORM elected, and then make it so by applying pressure and forcing the issue when needed through "people power," which is what Bernie is still going to do and lead. (ETA: This was what he was going to do anyway as he needed his supporters to push his platform through Congress... )

That's just my take on it. Bernie DID win something, and he will continue to push to make the ideas he brought and the ground he gained into law.

a reply to: AboveBoard

Bernie's platform of supporting big spending domestic plans and Hillary's record of supporting corruption in government is NOT a good mix.

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

If they aren't Trump/Putin shills then they're a very small minority of Bernie or busters that are becoming irrelevant by the minute. Bernie no doubt attracted Green party voters and socialists into the Democratic primary. They were never going to vote for someone other than Bernie.

Most sane Bernie voters have already jumped ship over to Hillary's campaign.

Ahh, so us Bernie supporters that don't support corruption are insane now, got it. Tells me everything I need to know about you.

Think of it this way...with Hillary we would have something like a 2% chance of her actually putting any of the progressive parts of the democratic platform into action, whereas with Trump it would be 0%. Like it or not, if you're a liberal, Hillary is still the better candidate. If you want to write in Bernie or vote for Jill, go ahead, but just know that your "protest" vote will do more harm than good. A vote for a third party candidate is just a vote wasted in the current political system. I personally find Hillary irritatingly patronizing, and she obviously has a complicated relationship with the truth. I live in a red state so I will probably not vote for her, but if I were in a swing state I would walk into the booth, plug my nose, and vote for the best option we are left with. I realize I'm going to get written of as either evil or stupid, but I just thought I'd put that out there.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I'm not going to get into arguing over political differences in this thread. Those are your perceptions based on the data you choose to see. I can't change that, nor will I try to.

Who really changes intrenched beliefs because of an internet post?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

The 90% one said 90% of 20% of the voters who said they liked Bernie consistently will back Hillary. Meaning that 90% is a whole lot less than 90%.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

You can find it under this link, as well other good stuff.


#demexit

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I am not seeing that explanation or those numbers in the poll I refer to:

85% of Bernie supporters say they will vote for Hillary

And polls are conducted by sampling. There are no polls that poll every single Bernie supporter in the U.S.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

That's an internet poll.

Believe me, I want Bernie supporters to prove me wrong and leave the Democratic Party en masse. I want them to vote Stein or Johnson.

But I refuse to be told that somehow Hillary supporters were less disenfranchised and angry, in 2008, and that they were not grossly insulted, bullied, and intimidated by Obama supporters.

It's simply not so.