What do you think happens when you die?

Originally posted by Historian
My wife 'died' 12 years ago. She clearly remembers going to a factory where there were just two 'workers'. One turned round to her and asked what she was doing there? She should go back as it was not her time yet.

That weird, I had a dream like that when I took some valiums and drank some beers. Don't worry, I don't do that anymore.

people say they go throught a tunnel and see light at the end and at the end of the tunnel they see there god weather it be aliens, jesus or whoeva we know this because people who have died then been reived see this when they were ded

Simple answer.
Darkness.

what makes you think darkness?

I used to work with a fellow whose wife died of lung cancer, though she was a nurse and did not smoke. It was maybe a year from the time she was diagnosed until she was gone. Around a month before she passed on she told him that she was going to send him some kind of a sign. They are a very unpretentious, honest, responsible, devout Catholic family, raising two daughters. Then, from her hospital bed, a week before she passed on, his wife told him that she now knew what the sign she was going to send him would be....lightning. I have been to one funeral, hers. It was at 1PM at a local church. When we arrived it was pouring out, really hard, the sky was low overcast thick clouds, and it was dark like twilight. We sat down, and got settled in, and just as the funeral was to start there was a loud boom of thunder, and the lights in the church went out for a couple of minutes. My friend told me that when the thunder struck, he looked at his watch and it was 1PM on the dot.
After the funeral, we came outside and I was bewildered to see that now there was not a cloud in the sky, I looked around and could see nothing but clear blue sky in every direction. Everything was still soaking wet, and the wet ashphalt was reflecting a white glare from the sunlight.

I was knocked out once after hitting a tree on a bike. The last I membered was seeing the bark on the tree. The image was rather hazy then sort of whited out. When I woke up it sort of-blacked in. Then blacked back out...Nothing really in between. Really the things that happened slightly before are blank to me. Also the things roughly 1-2 hours after Finlay waking up are blank. Really it wasn't like sleep. When your asleep you KNOW your asleep. It's just like a black hole. Nothing there, you remember only so far and the rest is just black.

Also some mornings after a deep sleep (Usually from working the previous night until 2-3 AM) getting up rapidly causes my vision to black out and I am semi blind for several seconds.
(Rare but it has happened more then 5 times within the last 2 years.) Often it's accompanied by dizziness. Seems like a rapid flow of blood surges to my head and I regain my sight/balance. Possibly the blackness is from a lack of blood to the brain/eyes?

Originally posted by instar
Youve really sparked my (morbid?) intrest, can you please elaborate on "gone-ness" if you can, and the experience of the "passing" moment itself, since you say not like fainting, i cant think of any alternative?

Also, not to be clever, but if you were "gone" how could you actually "experience" the gone-ness"

Dunno how to describe it.

I've fainted before. I've been knocked unconscious. I've been put under general anesthesia. All three are a bit different in the seconds just before and just after, but there's a sense of existence in those fleeting moments.

When I 'died' (for lack of a better term, I guess, since I'm still here), it was just .... different. It's like the difference between being in a dark room with the shades drawn tight and being in a closet unconscious, I suppose.
With, say, fainting, there's kind of a gradual awareness as you come 'round, and a general knowledge that you've just fainted. It's like your eyes adjusting to that first dark room with just the teeniest bit of light filtering through the windowshade.
With the dying thing, it was like .... there, there, there, there ----- nothing ----- HI I'M AWAKE!

I'm good with words, but trying to describe this is beyond my scope. I don't know that there's an allegory to use for comparison. That up there was about the best I could do.......

Originally posted by AL77ZZZ
elevatedone,

I'm not looking for the religous explaination but the scientific one. but thanks for the thread

al

Dear Elevated One,

Seems to me that a better choice to go find a serious answer would be:
www.near-death.com...

or :
www.iands.org...

Both excellent sites which delve into the science and experience of near death.

Having said that, and since you're here with us..let me give you a quick summary of why you can posit the existence of an after-life without having to buy into the heaven, hell and purgatory stuff and nonsense of any one or more religious dogmas..

The science supports the concept entirely if you take the time to think it through..As you know energy doesn't 'die' it transforms.
Do you agree?
Current science [super-string theory being the relevant field] would have it that in order to explain everything on all levels we must posit a universe of 11 dimensions..not 3 or 4 but 11.
And that means there is every reason to suppose that although your physical body may give out in this material universe, your soul may live on in other dimensions, or indeed jump to another dimension when released of this mortal coil.
The reason i refer you to the NDE sites is that there are now more than two hundred citings of and by NDE survivors telling of things going on in other rooms and outside the building , things that took place in the time while they were 'clinically dead' which they witnessed and could recall....plus some astonishing side phenomena..such as watches stopping.

You can forget about the guilt and recriminations as well, since regardless of the depth or absence of religious conviction the NDE experiencers were not confronted with God, The Devil, Angels or feelings of being judged ..quite the opposite in fact.

I have my own personal beliefs and won't inflict them upon you, other than to say the religious side of you should do a faith check and the science side of you should be willing to accept until disproven the likelihood of remaining a 'consciousness' in time and space for eternity or as long as you care to exist in a quantum flux.

-Sincerely
-Shai

Maybe death is like quantum physics. The theory is that we are apart of everything already. So, if the theory correct then when we die our energy just gets transfered into everyting else like if we were to have a soul.

Lights out and thats it in my opinion.

To bad 90% of earths population is under mass dilusion of some Omnipotent being... otherwise we could focus on cloaning etc.. and for those of us who want to conitnue for however long we could figure out how to transfer our memories thoughts and personalities to new body and new brain made from our own image...although I would have a few things gentically enhanced... and other made smaller LOL.

Joking aside I think we just power down.. Perhaps the mind displays some strange memories as it starves for oxygen or what ever but after that experience its just done. Blackness with no thought or anything.

X

Originally posted by AL77ZZZ
Maybe death is like quantum physics. The theory is that we are apart of everything already. So, if the theory correct then when we die our energy just gets transfered into everyting else like if we were to have a soul.

Dear AL777

[Sorry I mistook you for elevated one...my mistake!]

One [possibly relevant] theory which may also give you reason for 'faith in a continued 'life'after this one is the 'zero point field'..which I believe if you read up on it, may give you yet another way of understanding what may happen when, on this material plane, you 'die'.

-Sincerely
-Shai

Yes I belive there is more to it. Some scientists belive we might already be in like the Matrix movies. (There is a thread about it somewhere in the forum i think).I bet there is so much to everything all around us, like we got a atom sized knowledge compared to eternity. Clear up our minds do not fear what you might get to. fear is a powerfoul break. To many got it...

survival has been proved in repeatable experiments under laboratory conditions, in fact materialistic mediums are the only ones that have put closure to the subject, with earth shattering results achieved in the company of top scientists.

check out - www.cfpf.org.uk and www.radiooutthere.com

well i think waht happens is have you herd of quentum physics and qauntum machinchs.i herd that when you die you see a white light i think what that white light is bettween space and time like a black hole or a sudden creation of a planet or universe or galexie.i belife that there is parrele universes with little diffrences.i think that the white light is aways with us.i think it chooses everything

Whenever I die. I would either haunt the person responsible for my death for all eternity or I would choose a new "body" to inherit. How much time do I got? How far can I fly? I don`t know... But the "body" has to be an unborn human or animal which is not yet occupied by another soul. Memory is limited, I guess. So I will probably forget most of my previous lifes. The consistency of the soul would be interesting to know. What do the soul carry on to the next life?

i believe we are a chemical and electrical reaction and nothing more

when we die we do not have a soul/spirit that continues to another place , all this thing about human energy must go somewhere i dont swallow.

for e.g - you get a car battery , it holds electric current - if you smash it up the electric current either shorts out and dissapates or earths. i believe its the same with the human body - when u die your bodies chemical reaction stops functioning and therfore cannot create the electrical reaction so the current weakens and you just die

worm food

Originally posted by AL77ZZZ
If anyone has every died and come back to life, please share your experience with me on the thread or u2u me.

thanks,

al

...Lots of times. many different kinds of tunnels, "pools" and light. ...Final destination always same - pure white light, no senses at all - great peace, and awareness that there is no physical sensation, smell, sight... Sense of great loss about it when I wake up, but not during the experience.


.I figure it's a butterfly thing (transformation)...

What do you think happens when you die?


I'm not sure, but i hope its like "The 5 people you meet in Heaven"- you die, you see your life, everyone you have ever loved, you find out whose life you impacted even if you never knew...This would be nice..The other half of me wonders sometimes...I think there has to be more to just dying and its lights out. I hope.

Imagination is a cool thing. now I imagine earth is actually a place(out of many places/planets) created by an great evolved civilization(us) for having other experiences in living a life(we can say). When we die its gameover and we are beamed up(in space) to our bodies and remember everything. so we can decide again to go down to earth and be reborn again with no memory, so we can try out the earth life again. or chose another planet.

Originally posted by Cardu
I imagine earth is actually a place(out of many places/planets) created by an great evolved civilization(us) for having other experiences in living a life(we can say).

Ya huh. I think this is where we get to experience sensual things - maybe the only place. ...Like life on earth is a combination vacation and learning place. ...After dying, I come back really really sad that we're killing the best smells and sights and sounds of the earth, and very aware that it's not what it used to be.