What do you think happens when you die?

...or maybe i will end up in the great ATS in the afterlife with Grady, Ed Singer and some Republicans who see it all differently than I do
Now that would be something...

Originally posted by dgtempe
What do you think happens when you die?


I'm not sure, but i hope its like "The 5 people you meet in Heaven"- you die, you see your life, everyone you have ever loved, you find out whose life you impacted even if you never knew...This would be nice..The other half of me wonders sometimes...I think there has to be more to just dying and its lights out. I hope.

I hope we die and get to find out the answers to all the questions we have. Like who killed kennedy, and what cover ups does the government really have. Is there life on other plants? Things like that. I hope we finally get all the answers because that would be great

" I hope we finally get all the answers because that would be great"
Fraid not, al777zz.
You won't really care once your dead.
Scientifically, your energy disperses into the environment.
Your atoms either melve with the ground, or float off into the ether.
Same with your soul: that will disperse into the cosmic conciousness, if there is either.
Kind of a fade to grey, i'm afraid.

/All your atoms are belong to god.

Originally posted by cruzion
" I hope we finally get all the answers because that would be great"
Fraid not, al777zz.
You won't really care once your dead.
Scientifically, your energy disperses into the environment.
Your atoms either melve with the ground, or float off into the ether.
Same with your soul: that will disperse into the cosmic conciousness, if there is either.
Kind of a fade to grey, i'm afraid.

/All your atoms are belong to god.

Well, there you have it. Sounds pretty confident to me. My only question is.......How do you know?

theres no definitive proof, im merely stating my theory/belief in what will happen.
From a scientific standpoint, your vital organs stop functioning, and your body begins a transmigration into other forms of energy.
To get proof of what causes the animating principle in a body, or proof of what else happens besides transmigration of energy, is kinda difficult...........
Hence the original threaders prompt about peoples speculation on 'what do YOU think happens when you die?'
I was posting what i thought, which i was asked to do.

Who knowsguess we'll just have to wait till it happens

Whenever it happens, I`m going to Valhall to drink beer with Thor and Odin...

for all we know, pegasus might come and pick you up and take you on a tour of etherial brothels in amsterdam...
or for you, the cafe's, cropsmoker
or was it copsmoker?

several things happen:
1. You die beofre the judgement God makes on all, you go to Sheol: and you wait there until it is time.
2. God judges you. It's not always what you did, but sometimes what you thought....how you judged other people....and for the majority after Christ's death, baptism (and I mean immersion) decides where you go.
3. If hell, there is no end to eternal suffering and torment. If you were at one point a Christian and you left the faith (you don't have to leave the CHURCH for this), you suffer more because at one time you knew better.
4. If heaven, it's good, for eternity.

Rather simple.

In my opinion, death is like pre-life. You are nothing and know nothing. Time does not exist. Basically every living being is like a universe being created anew. And once its over, its over. It sucks and the unfairness of life does not get acknowledged in death other than all things become nothing. No afterlife, no happy places, no bad places. Nothing. Such is life.

I would LOVE for there to be some type of afterlife. Existence seems to be pretty good so long as you aren't suffering in some way. I imagine if you don't have a body like you do now suffering wouldn't really enter into the equation. However that is just a pipe dream by yet another highly intelligent monkey whom has given up any delusions of grandeur and now sees life for what it really is. A short trip to Nowheresville. Though he could always be wrong and has a 50/50 chance of being quite wrong.

I will say that I have seen things in my own life which defy conventional explanation. That being UFOs. However I suspect this universe is teeming with life, some of it incredibly advanced and examining us, but there does not need to be any spiritual explanation for it either. Much as I perceive my own life.

[edit on 29-1-2005 by Frith]

You cannot remember before you were born can you? No because to didn't exist.
When you die, you don't exist.

No one is special, once your body dies all the memories and experiences in your brain that made you your conscious self die with you.

Some people just find this a little hard to accept so they sugarcoat it with fantasy and religion.

This is just my opinion of course.

can you tell me what heaven is like?

also, what if i am a really good buddhist, meditated every day, never harmed a thing all my life, but i dont believe in god or heaven.... do i still go to heaven?

also, im an archbishop. i have devoted all my life to helping the weak, and spreading the word of god. i have turned millions towards the light, but i like to abuse choir boys now and again. do i go to hell or heaven?

also, im a serial murderer, but i believed with all my heart i was doing the right thing, and never once did i question, or have reason to believe that i was not working the lords will.
my psychiatric condition makes me believe that i am carrying out the lords will to the utmost of my abilities.
In my eyes, and my lords, i have done no sin. do i go to hell or heaven?

Originally posted by Coolbreeze

Originally posted by crisko
The answer to this is simple, what was it like before you were born?

Good question! Maybe a previous life or sommat. I'd like to believe in reincarnation, our body is a shell for our spirit, it's like a car when it's warn out and claps out, you get another one to replace it and a you get a new life. I liked to believe you get reincarnated loads of times until your spirit is fullly trained to enter the spiritual world and then you train to become a god. It might be a mad theory but I think all our theories are probably wrong and no one really knows what happens when we die. If you want to look at it at a scientific point of view then reincarnation is one of the best answers because hypnotists have hypnotised people and gone back into their past life experiences, dunno how true it all is but it's worth googling up and trying out your self if your interested in that sort of thing.

cheers

cb.

Interesting CB. I tend to believe this myself as I have memories of just that. I especially like your reference to being fully trained (or worthy). In my mind I think that extra chances are made available to learn more, however, understanding that each time you come back, your life experience will be that much harder then the last (if that makes sense). I have reasons to believe this, but don't care to get into that kind of detail here.

I do have to disagree with your reference to training to be a god though. Not sure what that's all about.

I was asked to share my testimony about my death experience but, before I do, please allow me to preface it with the following:

Luke 16:31
If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I began life as an atheist, as far back as I can remember. I believed that when I died, I would cease to exist. Prior to my death, I even had one girl who said, ”But what about Jesus Christ???” to which I replied, ”If He is real, then let Him appear before me.” I simply did not believe in an afterlife or in a God.

At the age of 17, I had a death experience. I would rather not describe how I died, due to some residual shame, but for your sake, I will describe what I experienced. I first heard a crackling noise in the background, similar to a police radio. Upon my death, I was separated from my body and I found myself in a vertical tunnel with a radius of about 25 feet or maybe a little smaller. It was pitch black and the air had a sort of cool dampness to it as it blew past my face as I fell downwards towards the center of the earth into some sort of a subterranean chamber.

As I fell downwards towards the exit (or entrance into the netherworld), I was told that once I exited the gate, then my destiny would be sealed for all eternity. You cannot imagine the impact that this had on me, as I suddenly realized that entering the netherworld is not a place that anyone wants to go, to include you. You will never realize the impact that this had upon me, unless you too experience this. Subsequently, I began to scream, ”Lord!!! Lord!!! I know You’re real now!!! Please give me a second chance!!!” whereupon I suddenly found myself back in my body. Naturally, I was still an atheist and, in ignoble unbelief, I audibly mumbled, ”Boy, what a dream!!!”

Here I had been given a second chance, but due to my stubborn unbelief, I simply could not believe that what had happened to me was real. Immediately after uttering ”Boy, what a dream!!!”, I again suddenly found myself back in the large vertical tunnel and was once again falling downwards, with the cool damp air breezing past my face. I was told for a second time that once I exited the tunnel, then my fate was sealed forever. For a second time I screamed, ”Lord!!! Lord!!! I know You’re real now!!! Please give me a second chance!!!” For a second time, I found myself back in my body. From that day until now, there has been no doubt in my mind that there is a God.

In a nutshell, that is my death experience. When we die, we do not ”cease to exist.” Conversely, there are denominations (such as the Seventh Day Adventists and the Jehovah Witnesses) who believe in soulsleep, which is the belief that we have no consciousness at death, at least until the resurrection, but that’s a topic for another day.

Personally i believe there MUST be life after death.
If there is not, then it doesnt really matter, because you wont have a conciousness to ovserve it or complain about there being nothign will you?

Assuming there is life after death, i belive what you see is based on your mind/spirits UTMOST beliefs before you left the world. For most people this will probably be their religions.

I'm not looking for the religous explaination but the scientific one. but thanks for the thread

al


Dear Elevated One,

Seems to me that a better choice to go find a serious answer would be:
www.near-death.com...

or :
www.iands.org...

Both excellent sites which delve into the science and experience of near death.

Having said that, and since you're here with us..let me give you a quick summary of why you can posit the existence of an after-life without having to buy into the heaven, hell and purgatory stuff and nonsense of any one or more religious dogmas..

The science supports the concept entirely if you take the time to think it through..As you know energy doesn't 'die' it transforms.
Do you agree?


shai,
I do agree that energy transfers but was not aware of the 11 demension transformation. So do our bodies live simotainously(spelling) in these demensions or do you just transfer your energy into another form in this new demension when you die? This would explain dajavu. Let me know and thanks for the great reply


al77zzz

I am, and always was ..
Therefore, I think, and always will ..

~peace

You guys scare me
It is in our nature to tend to belive that there is something out there for us to go to, it can be maybe for us to feel a sort of confort?
Simply i am not anymore scares me.
Not to be is something real dark and after reading this thread i'm going to take care of my self better
Some say the tunnel is a reaction in your brain because the brain sufocates(runs out of air)and it creates a sort of image like a halucination has in result of the brain runing out of air.
It's scary, i see most people here have a opinion well i dont know, i am not sure, maybe there is something or maybe it's just dark with out even a shadow, i sure dont wanna try it right now
Maybe if i'm luky i'll live 90 what can i say i'm a smoker.

I dont get people that say you will understand it better once you get older
well i'm almost 30 and i still dont get the idea of it.
What most imply is dont worry once you are older you will get along with the thought that you are going to die.

Probally and hope so if i get there when i'm old i will be roling over and runing around the house while deth trys to catch up to me.
Ironic is strange most people call dieng a event.
A event is when something hapens, the other idea is when some one dies the oposet hapens(nothing) he go's in to nothing.

So is it a event or is it nothing.
Do you feel anything when you go like a sensation.
Like i feel it
Is it living--sensation--nothing
Some say that it's like a special feeling for the one that go's.
The problems remain anyways afterwards what is there or is it anithing there

Originally posted by pepsi78
Simply i am not anymore scares me.
Maybe if i'm luky i'll live 90 what can i say i'm a smoker.
I dont get people that say you will understand it better once you get older
well i'm almost 30 and i still dont get the idea of it.
What most imply is dont worry once you are older you will get along with the thought that you are going to die.
So is it a event or is it nothing.

George Burns smoked cigars and lived to be 100. Doctors live 58 years on average, while bus drivers average over 70 years. Who would you ask for advice?
Death is by your side every day of your life, so you may as well make it your friend.
I've never died (that I recall), so I don't know what to expect. I only know that I feel it is not the end.

My friends grandma was clinically dead while in the hospital. That very same time, two of her friends showed up to visit. They were told it was not a good time, come back tomorrow, or something. They did. When they spoke with her she told them they were there the day before, and they said oh yes, did the nurse tell you? No, she said, I saw you. I floated out into the waiting area and saw you. They scoffed, so she told them both what they were wearing. She told my friend that before that she had been afraid to die, but after the NDE she wasn't at all afraid anymore. She also described the tunnel, blue light, warm feeling of welcome...etc. It was 23 years ago, I can't recall all the details. The trip to the waiting room is what I found cool.

I dont think death as in drop down dead and then balckness/nothingness is the end. Our "soul" or "spirt", our concious self is a form of energy and that will survive. It does not need this body. I like to think we will pass to a higher plane of existence and survive. I would like to think we will meet our loved ones again, but i just dont know.

What i do know is to enjoy this life, dont fret over Danish Cartoons or the like, after all life is too short, and we should value things around us rather than religious books!!