Friendly Reminder: Donald Trump Still Hasn’t Released His Tax Returns

I could careless about Trump's or any candidates tax returns. I don't really see any advantage to Trump for releasing his tax returns. If he releases them then Democrats will pick them apart which is easy to do when 3/4s of the electorate is functionally illiterate when it comes to business, finance, and taxes. They can also say he either makes too much money (evil rich) or he doesn't make what he claims (liar). There really is no situation where is is advantageous for Trump to release his tax returns.

originally posted by: Edumakated
I could careless about Trump's or any candidates tax returns. I don't really see any advantage to Trump for releasing his tax returns. If he releases them then Democrats will pick them apart which is easy to do when 3/4s of the electorate is functionally illiterate when it comes to business, finance, and taxes. They can also say he either makes too much money (evil rich) or he doesn't make what he claims (liar). There really is no situation where is is advantageous for Trump to release his tax returns.

So ... what you're saying is that the truth of Trump's finances probably wouldn't endear him to the American people?

I agree. I don't expect him to offer his returns.

Clinton, on the other hand, has offered the last 30 years or so.

/shrug

And....39 minutes ago...

Trump campaign: No tax returns for you

As recently as mid-May, Trump said that he’d “like to” disclose the tax documents, “hopefully before the election,” but he’s waiting for the end of an IRS audit. Manafort’s on-air comments this morning, however, suggest there will be no scrutiny of the documents before voters head to the polls. As for the “audit” excuse, the fact remains that this rationale has never made any sense: an IRS audit doesn’t preclude someone from sharing their returns.

The unfortunate complication here is that there’s probably never been a major-party nominee whose tax returns are more in need of public scrutiny. Donald J. Trump has been caught up in so many financial controversies – his bankruptcies, his lawsuits, his alleged ties to Russian financiers, his dubious claims about charitable work that appear to be brazen lies, et al – that the New York Republican has the added responsibility to tell Americans the whole truth before the cast their ballots in the fall.

Trump, who had vowed to release his returns before he announced his candidacy, is convinced he can get away with this and voters won’t care. We’re about to find out if he’s correct.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I guess he will when he's required too, huh? Maybe it will be about the same time Hillary releases her current list of campaign contributions. What a day that will be! Do we vote for the guy who didn't donate to charity, or the woman who has been saying she'll fight big evil banks, while taking millions from them.

"Sure, I could choose NOT to shoot myself in the foot, but it's my civic responsibility!"

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Well, the hope is, (pipe-dream, I should say) is that he will be closing a lot of the tax loopholes that have allowed him to pay so little and make more money producing goods overseas. One of the reasons politicians on both sides hate him.
Supposing that happens, there would be no need to tax me anymore than I am.
Fingers crossed with Trump, but I know for a fact that HRC will not be doing either of those things.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Trump's a billionaire.

Donald Trump's comeback is one of the most dramatic of all time—as well as one of the most visible. According to a well-known anecdote, one day when he was $1 billion in debt, Trump pointed out a homeless man to his daughter and said, "See that bum? He has a billion dollars more than me."

Trump is an elitist, out out touch, 1%er! His only concerns are for his own ego and self interests.

originally posted by: neveroddoreven99
a reply to: ~Lucidity

I guess he will when he's required too, huh? Maybe it will be about the same time Hillary releases her current list of campaign contributions. What a day that will be! Do we vote for the guy who didn't donate to charity, or the woman who has been saying she'll fight big evil banks, while taking millions from them.

"Sure, I could choose NOT to shoot myself in the foot, but it's my civic responsibility!"

Here you go ... Clinton's Campaign Contributions ...

FEC - Clinton, Hillary Rodham

originally posted by: neveroddoreven99
a reply to: ~Lucidity

I guess he will when he's required too, huh? Maybe it will be about the same time Hillary releases her current list of campaign contributions. What a day that will be! Do we vote for the guy who didn't donate to charity, or the woman who has been saying she'll fight big evil banks, while taking millions from them.

"Sure, I could choose NOT to shoot myself in the foot, but it's my civic responsibility!"

He's not required to, But it pretty clearly indicates he has things to hide. Guess there aren't many conspiracy theorists among his supporters, which is pretty ironic considering he's pretty big on that himself and this is ATS.

And sigh...the Clinton again. Boy, the one-trick pony response is getting old. But since you mention it, isn't he the one that banks won't invest in anymore because he cost them so much money? He's proud he doesn't need them when the truth might be he's not a good risk for banks? Yet people think he's good enough to lead them?

This is madness.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Edumakated
I could careless about Trump's or any candidates tax returns. I don't really see any advantage to Trump for releasing his tax returns. If he releases them then Democrats will pick them apart which is easy to do when 3/4s of the electorate is functionally illiterate when it comes to business, finance, and taxes. They can also say he either makes too much money (evil rich) or he doesn't make what he claims (liar). There really is no situation where is is advantageous for Trump to release his tax returns.

So ... what you're saying is that the truth of Trump's finances probably wouldn't endear him to the American people?

I agree. I don't expect him to offer his returns.

Clinton, on the other hand, has offered the last 30 years or so.

/shrug

I am saying no matter what is in his tax returns, it can be spun as a negative because there is a significant portion of the electorate that is ignorant when it comes to wealth.

Trump could be 100% legit, even paid more in taxes than owed, etc. However, the spin from the left will be he is EVIL RICH. Look how much money he has! He didn't give enough to charity! Blah, blah, blah.

Trump could be using every legal tax allowance and the spin will be he is a tax cheat. OMG! He has an off shore account! He got a tax credit! Blah, blah, blah.

There is no circumstance that I can see where Trump benefits from releasing his tax return.

Liberals only hate rich conservatives. This is why no one seems to care that Clinton has made tens of millions of dollars giving speeches or their unequality rants never seem to apply to actors and athletes.

It's funny to see the Hillary crowd suddenly find that they have to determine ethics in a candidate.

hahahahahahahahaha

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

Yeah that's a pipe dream.

He's not going block the ability for the 1%ers to use tax havens and close those loopholes. Maybe he'd pretend to. Just like his pretend promises on so many other things. But no way in hell are they going to let him or anyone do that.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
It's funny to see the Hillary crowd suddenly find that they have to determine ethics in a candidate.

hahahahahahahahaha

What Hillary crowd are you referring to? More deflection. Good job

a reply to: ~Lucidity

What's amusing is the person that pushed for this big time, Mitt Romney, didn't release his tax returns until the end of September the year he ran.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Oooo another meme! I don't know much about his bankruptcies, always hear the number 4 tossed about, but if it's this the number or true, maybe this is part of what he's hiding.

And were already 19 trillion dollars in debt.

Without printing fiat money, and borrowing money from China.

We'd been bankrupt long ago.

Fail to see the point.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Say he did make his tax returns public and there is absolutely nothing in them to embarrass him or explain why he's held out so long, would you accept them as authentic?

If the IRS claims they are still private and won't authenticate them -- even though Trump claims he's made them public already -- would you still accept them?

I don't see these tax return questions going anywhere, TBH.

a reply to: Vector99

And apparently, from what I've read, it messed him up (okay, was one of the things that messed him up) and that's probably what Trump's afraid of too. There's a video on that somewhere...Trump speaking to this.

Batta blatta 19 trillion, 50 million kajillion in debt ...

Most of which we owe to ourselves.

What was it Cheney said (or was it Reagan)?

"Deficits don't matter"

LOL

There is at this point no real reason that Mr Trump shouldn't be releasing them, on the flip side, it is giving the news organizations a great time pontificating that it's because he is a lapdog of Vlad Putin, and that in itself is making for some good news watching and reading this week.

Honestly, there's no real substance to this election, and the returns like everything else, are just little distractions to keep people (ie: the masses) from realizing this little major point.

So...let me get this straight.

Someone who is filthy rich and doesn't need to takes advantage of laws intended to help those who are honestly not rich and in trouble and that's okay.

Got it

a reply to: annalisa2016

Agreed for the most part.

One exception,,,the little points are what go more to character than big ones. At least in my experience. And all this little points add up.