Friendly Reminder: Donald Trump Still Hasn’t Released His Tax Returns

a reply to: Gryphon66

Hillary uses little kids in her campaign as she did in her "surprise" appearance at the DNC last night. Even that was a lie.

She uses their innocence to shield her lack of innocence and criminal ways.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

You brought CNN into this, not I.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Oooo another meme! I don't know much about his bankruptcies, always hear the number 4 tossed about, but if it's this the number or true, maybe this is part of what he's hiding.

That's not bad. Seven bankruptcies out of more than 500 business ventures. I'll take those odds. The bankruptcies were not failures. They were Chapter 11 not Chapter 13. Chapter 11 is a reorganization where everybody will get paid, Chapter 13 is where the business fails and creditors lose money.

Anonymous GOP donor pledges $5 million if Trump releases tax returns

A release previewing a conference call with Brock scheduled for Wednesday says the $5 million challenge “represents an opportunity to fill in some of the unknowns about Trump including how much he has made off of potentially fraudulent ventures and how much he’s actually paid in taxes. "What we do know about Trump’s taxes shows that he’s gone to great lengths to pay as little as possible,” the release continues. “Meaning that he is avoiding paying his fair share and shifting that burden to other taxpayers.”

You know, shifting the burden to the same people he said he wouldn't take campaign money from and then did. Becaus, hey, that's what con men do.

But I'm still going with that website for veterans that turned into a website for campaign donations follow the money straight into his pocket theory. That's some shady stuff right there.

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: ~Lucidity

You brought CNN into this, not I.

I brought a lot of sources into this, again, from all angels. You picked on only CNN. But, hey, stay in your little bubble if that's what makes you feel safe and happy. I have no issue with that.

a reply to: DBCowboy

But don't you see your own hypocrisy?

No. Hillary has been called to the carpet and scrutinized more than any other presidential candidate, I would claim, EVER! Donald Trump is refusing the tiniest transparency, leading us on saying he'll release those taxes, when and if "this"..... But, when "this" happens, then he comes up with another goal post. Finally, he said he'll release them after his IRS audit..........Really?.....okay, I'll mark my calendar for the 12th of NEVER!

YUGE red flags!!!!!

a reply to: windword

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

This sick obsession with finding out how much someone has is now socially acceptable.

And disturbing.

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: Gryphon66

Hillary uses little kids in her campaign as she did in her "surprise" appearance at the DNC last night. Even that was a lie.

She uses their innocence to shield her lack of innocence and criminal ways.

Did she stiff them on their bill?

Trump "used their innocence" and then didn't pay them. Are you REALLY going to excuse that with a fake "Hillary does it too!"

I really wish ATS had an ignore button.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: windword

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

This sick obsession with finding out how much someone has is now socially acceptable.

And disturbing.

Oh yes, class warfare get's tossed in ... you forget SJWs and political correctness. Buzz buzz buzz words.

PS ... do you guys know you're promoting a Marxist concept EVERY TIME you use that one? LOL.

People applying for jobs get credit checks.

The American people should know where Trump gets his money from, because if, as George Will suggests, most of it lately is coming from Russia ... we're going to have a REAL PROBLEM on our hands if this dolt gets elected somehow.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: windword

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

This sick obsession with finding out how much someone has is now socially acceptable.

And disturbing.

It's not about finding out "how much someone has". It's about "rendering to Caesar that which is Caesar's".
It's the LAW.

Is Trump an "outlaw", or not? I want to know.

So what we have here is one group with "TRUMP IS A BRAT" signs
and another with "HILLARY FOR PRISON" signs
Me, I'm in the middle enjoying the show. POTUS are 'selected' not elected.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

BS! This is about transparency and double checking The Donald's YUGE claims of his wealth, business acumen and integrity. Is Donald a tax dodger? He is being audited.

If he won't put up, like he promised early in his campaign, what makes you think he'll keep any campaign promise he's made?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: windword

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

This sick obsession with finding out how much someone has is now socially acceptable.

And disturbing.

Oh yes, class warfare get's tossed in ... you forget SJWs and political correctness. Buzz buzz buzz words.

PS ... do you guys know you're promoting a Marxist concept EVERY TIME you use that one? LOL.

People applying for jobs get credit checks.

The American people should know where Trump gets his money from, because if, as George Will suggests, most of it lately is coming from Russia ... we're going to have a REAL PROBLEM on our hands if this dolt gets elected somehow.

Oh yeah, and that. lol.

originally posted by: hellobruce
Remember, no real expert has ever even examined Obama's birth certificate, only "internet experts"!

So where are Trumps short and long form BC's, what is he hiding?

It doesn't take an expert to write an open records request.

Besides, I have a BFA with a concentration in Graphic Design. I also have almost 20 years experience in the field. In terms of knowing the difference between an embossment and debossment, I am an expert.

Also, I say go after Trump's birth certificate if you feel like he could be lying! Do it! More power to you!

ETA: By the way, you are from New Zealand. I am not sure why you are so concerned with squelching all questions about Obama's citizenship. The whole point of the Natural Born Citizen clause is to avoid foreign influence in the highest office of the land. Normally, I have no problems with people anywhere concerning themselves with our government, but on this issue, it's really none of your business. For all I know, you have a hidden agenda here.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: windword

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

This sick obsession with finding out how much someone has is now socially acceptable.

And disturbing.

It's not about finding out "how much someone has". It's about "rendering to Caesar that which is Caesar's".
It's the LAW.

Is Trump an "outlaw", or not? I want to know.

In all probability he is. He admitted as much, said he knew how to obtain political favors and take advantage of the loopholes, as a businessman.

If he's such an honest and great truth teller, why is the loan that he made to his campaign not on the Federal Elections Committee site? Oh...let me guess...it's part of the IRS audit so he can't report it at this time?



Rumor also has it that he filed last week to change it from loans to donations. More funny business with money.

Trump previously said he would forgive the loans, but his campaign continued to structure his spending as loans, leaving open a legal door for him to be personally reimbursed for his spending with new donations. (Other candidates have used campaign loans for that purpose.) [Source]

So he'll keep all his money that he claimed he spent. And his poor schnook supporters tossing more money at this ugely rich and super smart man will wind up financing him after all. But hey, he bought himself a lot of supporters by playing this particular game now, didn't he?

a reply to: angeldoll

I try to hold the same standard for anyone running for office.

Lying, getting caught lying, poor leadership are things I look at.

Trump's a billionaire.

Seems he's been pretty darned successful running things so I'd add that to the plus column under leadership.

originally posted by: [post=21054209]windword

If he won't put up, like he promised early in his campaign, what makes you think he'll keep any campaign promise he's made?

What makes you think ANY politician will keep their promises?

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: windword

I see this tax thing as further class divide if anything else.

This sick obsession with finding out how much someone has is now socially acceptable.

And disturbing.

It's not about finding out "how much someone has". It's about "rendering to Caesar that which is Caesar's".
It's the LAW.

Is Trump an "outlaw", or not? I want to know.

In all probability he is. He admitted as much, said he knew how to obtain political favors and take advantage of the loopholes, as a businessman.

Yes, we call that fraud, bribery, racketeering and corruption.

I am amazed at the "law-and-order" crowd defending Trump's blatant, admitted criminality.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Law and order. Yep.

And don't even get me started on his eminent domain comments and practices and opinions. This man uses everything these people allegedly are against. How that cognitive dissonance might sound in their heads would be something very fascinating to experience.

And none of this can really even be defended. People clearly just don't care.