Welcome One and All to The 2016 Democratic National Convention

a reply to: DBCowboy

Will there be protestors? If so, what would they be protesting?

There will be.

Of course I don't think DNC protestors can live up to the protestors throwing urine at the other convention.

Pretty tough act to follow.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Very interesting! thank you for taking the time to help out. So Bernie would need 30% or more to take it to the floor?

Bernie has the 30% for a floor vote on the proposed rules changes.

Here's the only path I see for Bernie. I am going to use Google's delegate count.

Hillary has 2,205 pledged delegates, Bernie has 1,846.

My understanding is that 2,383 are needed for nomination during the first floor vote/roll call.

With the superdelegates, Hillary easily has the nomination. If, by some chance, they are entirely eliminated for this convention or the weight of their votes are reduced to a tenth (that's one of the proposals), then Hillary cannot win on the first vote.

Bernie has stated he may declare Hillary the winner by Acclamation, after the first vote. But he has also left the door open to a second vote.

If it goes to a second vote, all of the pledged delegates are released to vote for whoever they want, after a floor debate.

In Bernie's favor are Hillary's polling numbers against Trump compared to his. In Bernie's favor are a number of anticipated unknowns that could drive Hillary's polling numbers lower before the election, for example, the investigations into the Clinton Foundation and perjury.

In Hillary's favor is the strong support she has in the party.

But Bernie does give his supporters a strong debate.

All of this is such a wild longshot though.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I honestly don't believe that the DNC gives a rats ass about Bernie supporters.

imho

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Hillary has 2,205 pledged delegates, Bernie has 1,846.

I hope there's some infighting at the convention after the crap they said about Sanders.

And those delegates are fully aware.

I wonder if the fart in is still on.

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: neo96

Well, of course, when those protestors who were playing with urine will be in the crowd during DNC...they have to support their boss

No, no urine. They're supposed to be trying to organize a fart-in. So if you see a lot of funny faces in the crowd, you know why.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I honestly don't believe that the DNC gives a rats ass about Bernie supporters.

imho

Well, they are going to get their floor vote even if the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee didn't pass the proposed rules changes. We really have no idea how many pledged delegates would support eliminating the superdelegates or how many support Bernie if they were not bound by their states' votes.

I think it will be a good floor fight.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It'll be good theatre, but the DNC won't leave anything to chance, not against Trump.

The real action will be in the backrooms of the convention hall where all the deals will be made.

Here's their supposed platform

An analysis shows they have already failed on many points.

Especially on p.21 (Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas).

The Party has been failing on that one for 50 years already.

Message to posters above who said that the RNC was nothing but fear mongering:
Did you actually watch the convention, in full, or are you parroting what the MSM told you?
I watched every minute of it, and I did not see fear mongering.
I saw acknowledgement of the issues facing our country, and constructive solutions and promises that things can be better.
For the first time in years, I have hope for the future - as a result of what I heard in that convention.
It was not fear mongering, it encouraged patriotism and hope. It was a very positive experience.
The MSM twisted it, because that was the only thing that they could come up with to criticize it.

I am interested to see how the DNC approaches this.
You have to acknowledge an issue in order to deal with it and fix it.
Are they going to just pretend that everything is perfect? In other words, lie?

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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

TOPIC: Welcome One and All to The 2016 Democractic National Convention

Please discuss it and not the RNC...that is another thread...or those events from the RNC.
Trump had his week...and there are other threads for him and Republicans.

Thanks.



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I kinda agree with internet after listening to Kaine's speech this morning.

Kaine & Unable.

There were a few points that I kind of went, "What was the point of that?"

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: MotherMayEye

It'll be good theatre, but the DNC won't leave anything to chance, not against Trump.

But that's the thing about the argument for Bernie...he was polling a lot better against Trump than Hillary is. And her numbers keep slipping.

For the good of the party's chances, in November, Bernie would be the safer choice.

If it were to ever come to a brokered convention, the party would have to choose Hillary over the party's chances. Of course they would likely choose her over the party, but that's what the debate would essentially come to.

In Hillary supporters' favor, the will of the voters was clear...Hillary won more votes. Although Bernie did end the primary with the momentum. Hillary just won too much early on.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think Bernie supporters are overly optimistic. Bernie was never as highly scrutinized. I don't think his plans would play well on a national stage.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It's not about party or platform or ideology.

It's about Hillary.

imho

originally posted by: xuenchen
Here's their supposed platform

An analysis shows they have already failed on many points.

Especially on p.21 (Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas).

The Party has been failing on that one for 50 years already.

Looks like they are going to address some very good issues. I hope they actually address them and let people know what their ideas are.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
I am interested to see how the DNC approaches this.
You have to acknowledge an issue in order to deal with it and fix it.
Are they going to just pretend that everything is perfect? In other words, lie?

Somehow the DNC gets away with saying "Obama has fixed everything" *and* "Times are tough, we're here to help!"

It's like the DNC has a short atten... squirrel!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think Bernie supporters are overly optimistic. Bernie was never as highly scrutinized. I don't think his plans would play well on a national stage.

No, he certainly wasn't scrutinized. And there would be only three months to scrutinize if somehow he were made the nominee.

Imagine the contrast between Trump and Sanders in a head-to-head. That would be a wild three months.