Police operation underway at Munich mall

I developed this profile for these types of shootings. This latest one is already hitting on several points/


--the 'uniform' of all black/camoflage/trenchcoat look on the part of the shooter

--previous history of mental health 'treatment' of the perp

--reported multiple suspects besides the named patsy

--lack of any believable motive for the shooters' acts

--investigation taken over by the Feds

--previous ties to the military by the shooter

--attempt by the politicians to impose new laws in the wake of the shooting

--extra guns and ammo found in the auto and at the home of the shooter

--strange expressionless look on the shooter's face during the rampage, or an inability to remember the act afterwards, which I see as an indication of mind control

--early start time to the massacre, so the story will dominate the day's headlines

--a drill mimicking the shooting happening nearby or in recent memory

originally posted by: starviego
I developed this profile for these types of shootings. This latest one is already hitting on several points/
--the 'uniform' of all black/camoflage/trenchcoat look on the part of the shooter
--previous history of mental health 'treatment' of the perp
--lack of any believable motive for the shooters' acts
--attempt by the politicians to impose new laws in the wake of the shooting
--early start time to the massacre, so the story will dominate the day's headlines

These could be said of every school/theater shooting in the US., thanks to the Media driving the "Mass Murderer Celebrity Culture", which I fear is already showing its face in these Islamic lone wolf attacks.

Where your other points would come in for other narratives.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

An eye witness, a muslim woman, was interviewed on CNN. She heard it.

I wonder if these people lied when they witnessed 3 different shooters:

The other 2 have been cops trying to shoot the shooter. I think theres also a video of it

a reply to: Drazzl

Do you have a link to that video? I find it doubtful that people would not be able to recognize the police, and that the police would set a manhunt looking for their own.

Being what this site is, I have to wonder out loud here about this part

Police say the Munich-born gunman had been in psychiatric care, receiving treatment for depression.

Is it possible that he was programmed during this time? I mean you can be hypnotized unknowingly with just a simple conversation with someone.

Add his erratic speach and confusion during the carpark encounter and him saying even then that " I didn't do nothing" and its shades of Aurora.

originally posted by: Chickensalad
Being what this site is, I have to wonder out loud here about this part

Police say the Munich-born gunman had been in psychiatric care, receiving treatment for depression.

Is it possible that he was programmed during this time? I mean you can be hypnotized unknowingly with just a simple conversation with someone.

Add his erratic speach and confusion during the carpark encounter and him saying even then that " I didn't do nothing" and its shades of Aurora.

If so, then was he a "lone gunman". Were his handlers there in costume, pretending to be part of a bigger, glorified picture? Was he just the confused patsy?

a reply to: windword

That idk and can only speculate. That's all any of us have after these events sadly. We've come to a point that it's getting increasingly harder for even the average citizen to believe the crap we're told. So, all we're left with is probable propaganda and speculation.

As to the "lone wolf" spin, I don't know that I personally have bought that too many times in recent years.

a reply to: Chickensalad

As to the "lone wolf" spin, I don't know that I personally have bought that too many times in recent years.

It happens so often that, on this one, I clipped the headline just to prove that witnesses said there were 3 shooters, because I knew it would end up spun as a lone gunman, as usual.

In Baton Rouge the first reports claimed that the police were called because 2 men were shooting at each other. But that was wiped from the web as the lone gunman scenario was being pushed.

a reply to: windword

I've had several people close to me that normally wouldn't question the media narrative, look at these last few acts in complete disbelief. Nobody believes a damn thing that we're told anymore.

Add to that the fact that the majority of us with unanswered questions have no recourse to investigate these loose ends due to the very nature of how evidence is concealed and controlled. And the frustration of even trying to speculate alternative theories online only to be lambasted and sometimes down right shut down and told not to talk about certain angles, it all starts to remind you of 1984.

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: Tardacus

F you BBC.

There's no such country as Kosovo.

Other than that, what does it say? What's the connection?

Yes, there is. It's part of Albania which you, serbs, occupied. Now crawl back to your hole.

just an 18 year old kid can shake germany

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Drazzl

Do you have a link to that video? I find it doubtful that people would not be able to recognize the police, and that the police would set a manhunt looking for their own.

The cops had no uniforms on, they just happened to be close to the scene when it happened - it is normal in germany that there are unmarked (no uniform, badge hidden) police lurking around, and even if they put their badges out, many people don't even know how these badges look like so they can easily be mistaken in such a situation.. anyways, i do not have a link for you

a reply to: Drazzl

So, you're saying that there were 2 undercover, plain clothed officers on duty, shooting at the suspect and they both missed and then lost sight their target? I wonder why the police launched a manhunt in search of their own? The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing? Sounds like a Keystone Cop episode!

Sounds legit! LOL

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Shamrock6

From what I've read the police have said there is an "obvious link" to Breivik , the date of the shooting could be tied in with that as it was the 5th anniversary of Breivik's attack , there are reports from school friends that he used a picture of Breivik as his avatar on one of his social media accounts.

No doubt we will learn more in the coming days , whether some people will want to listen remains to be seen.

Gotcha. I hadn't seen that, thanks for the info!

a reply to: windword

I do not know if they missed him when they shot but it was confirmed that they lost sight after they shot.
They did not search for their own.. pathetic.. for safety reasons, these reports have been taken very serious, due to the amount of reports it was not easy to tell if all the witnesses talked about the same situation

a reply to: Drazzl

You speak with such authority! Why should I believe you? Were you there?

Some little examples of a timeline from that night(because of the "lone wolf" theory and some other things, like the police caught lying):

19:18 Uhr: Auch in anderen Münchner Stadtteilen angeblich Schießereien
Auch in anderen Münchner Stadtteilen gibt es offenbar Schießereien, die sind allerdings noch nicht bestätigt. Die Polizei rät, in ganz München nicht aus dem Haus zu gehen.
In other parts of Munich shootings were reported, but not confirmed. - "Exploding Ballons"(or similiar, according to the bavarian interiour minister!)

19:21 Uhr: Die Polizei spricht von mehreren Tätern und mehreren Toten
Die Münchner Polizei spricht von einem Amoklauf - und rechnet mittlerweile damit, dass das Attentat eventuell von mehreren Tätern begangen worden sei.
The POLICE talks about a rampage and several perpetrators - How can an Amok! not be alone? And if it was planned and coordinated, it is not an amok, it´s an act of terror.

19:41 Uhr: Panik am Marienplatz
Wie mehrere Medien berichten, soll es in der Nähe des U-Bahnhofs am Marienplatz eine weitere Schießerei gegeben haben.
Several media agencies report shootings at the Marienplatz/subway - "Exploding Balloons" or mass halluciantions.

19:56 Uhr: "Tagesspiegel" berichtet von Tätern mit schusssicherer Weste
In dem Münchner Einkaufszentrum haben nach Informationen des Berliner "Tagesspiegels" (Samstagausgabe) zwei Täter mit südländischem Aussehen um sich geschossen. Mehrere Menschen seien tot. Einer der Schützen habe eine schusssichere Weste getragen, heißt es aus Sicherheitskreisen. Die Täter hätten offenbar mit vollautomatischen Waffen gefeuert. Die "Lage", wie der Einsatz genannt wird, halte an.
The Tagesspiegel reports two attackers of mediterranean look in the mall, at least one of them was eqipped with a bulletproof vest, according to OFFICIAL SECURITY reports - So the officials had mass hallucinations or were sending out false reports, and all the witnesses and victims in the mall too? I mean, if someone reports a vest, he will know what he saw, or not?

20:42 Uhr: München ruft nach Amoklage "Sonderfall" aus
Die Landeshauptstadt München hat am Freitagabend den "Sonderfall" wegen einer "Amoklage" ausgerufen. Die Bürger wurden über das Smartphone-Warnsystem Katwarn aufgefordert, ihre Wohnungen nicht zu verlassen.
Munich is under "special case" scenario(state of emergency) after the rampage situation - If we don´t call it terror, because it is not "IS" or muslim terror (to become terror, terror has to be muslim nowadays), then it´s no terror, rampage seems to be better for the people, which otherwise just would be unsettled. Short explanation. Asked very good questions about another very fishy terror attack that was none, "our" interiour minister said:
"These answers would just unsettle the people..."

20:47 Uhr: Polizei: Drei Täter mit Langwaffen auf der Flucht
Nach dem Attentat in München sind nach Angaben der Polizei drei Täter mit Langwaffen auf der Flucht. Das sagte ein Polizeisprecher am Freitagabend.
THREE attackers with LONG FIREARMS are on the run, according to the POLICE - So the police sends out false reports too? And how could one mix up long firearms with a pistol or whatever?

21:55 Uhr: Was hat es mit dem Mann in Weihnachtsmannkostüm auf sich?
Augenzeugenberichten zufolge soll ein Mann im Weihnachtsmannkostüm durch die Menschenmassen gelaufen sein. Ein Zeuge berichtet auf n-tv, der Mann sei einer der Täter gewesen.
What happened to the man in the Santa Claus costume, who according to an eyewitness was arrested as one of the attackers, as he told N-TV...(Lol)

23:28 Uhr: Redaktion der "Abendzeitung" von SEK evakuiert
Die Redaktion der „Münchner Abendzeitung“ wird vom SEK evakuiert. Die Abendzeitung hat ihr Redaktionsgebäude in der Garmeschen Straße. Im Innenhof sollen Schüsse gefallen sein.
The editorial staff of the Abendzeitung was evacuated by the SEK(what a luck, nobody of the staff was shot...)
Shots were reported from the inner courtyard of the Abendzeitung - "Exploding Balloons! Because all the people in the building mistaked at the same time "Exploding Balloons" with shots.

will be continued immediately

And now this, all of the sudden:

23. Juli 2016 Der Amokläufer von München soll sich vor den Augen von Polizisten erschossen haben. Das teilte die Polizei München mit. Demnach traf der 18-Jährige gegen 20.30 Uhr auf eine Streife. Als die Beamten ihn ansprachen, zog er seine Waffe und erschoss sich.
The attacker of Munich should have killed himself in front of the police, according to the Polizei München. Therefore the 18 years old met at around 20.30 a police patrol. When the cops addressed him, he pulled his gun and shot himself

That´s new, since today. And look at the time, 20.30. The special case was declared at 20.42, the whole city got closed down, no Autobahn, no trains, no metro anymore. Then the mobile network crashed, many people just couldn´t call the police or could go online with their spyPhones, total chaos was what happened yesterday because of allegedly one lunatic.

So, the cops must have known that this is one of the attackers(why should he shoot himself when the police addresses him?), at around 20.30. Special case declared at 20.42. So the police knows that one attacker is dead, but declares special case. Who would do that, imo only somebody who is sure that there is at least one other attacker out there and on the run.

At 20.51 the GSG9 was on it´s way to Munich. They are not called or don´t come for exploding balloons, mass hallucinations, swamp gas!
At 21.03 snipers in helicopters were in the air.
What comes now is weird, at 21.12 the police of north-rhine-westphalia was set to alert state. Check a map and look how far NRW is away from Bavaria!

21.22 According to the police no perpetrator was caught yet. And the dead body that was found one kilometer away from the events guaranteed was just a suicide victim that coincidentally shot himself when he was addressed by the police, he was coincidentally wearing the same things like the MCDonalds/Parkdeck shooter, the same red backpack, had the same ethnical look. How could one know that this was one of the attackers, especially the police...?
Now somehow, at 22:51, remember it was 20.30 when they met him and he "shot himself", rumors got loud that the(one!) perpetrator was FOUND dead.

22.51 Was the(one!) perpetrator FOUND dead?
So, FOUND at 22.51? By who? Here comes a good one:
The Police determines if it could be one of the(again more attackers) attacker...
Because as we know now, they must have known at around 20.30 that at least one of the perpetrators is dead, because he killed himself, as we are told. They must have known who it is, it is the police, they get descriptions, even maybe pics and videos to their mobiles.

23:14 9 dead, one of them maybe an attacker
Officials examine right now if the dead body is one of the attackers. The man had died because of "violent impact"... They saw him shooting himself in his head at 20.30 but have to examine if he is one of the attackers at 23.14, and are just saying that he died because of violent impacts?

At 23.50 the robot starts to examine the dead body. 3hours and 20 minutes later. Did it take that long to get the robot? 2400 police forces in the city, but no robot. Or which plausible reason is there to wait 3hrs20mins to examine a backpack that the officials are feared is full of explosives(the reason to call the robot)? And who watched that dead body and the backpack for 3hrs20mins, when they were feared they could get blown up?
They MUST have known that this is an attacker, the McDonalds/Parkdeck shooter, at least when he shot himself, as we are told. Why did the officials lie the whole time about the events around the dead body? Why does story, time and all that absolutely not fit?

0.26 The car of the attacker was found
While the robot was still doing his work. First they don´t know that it is an attacker, are feared to approach the body/backpack(reason for the robot), as we are told, but then they can identify and find his car??? Found that fishy when it was reported first, that they found the car before they could approach the dead body.

We now know that they lied about the dead body events, but why did they lie and tell the people the whole time something different than what they knew and did? The attacker was dead, no dangers anymore if it was the lone wolf, as they try to tell us since the end of the events at that night.

The officials said that they tried to avoid a mass panic at that night. So why then not reporting that the-, or one of the attackers shot himself into his dumb head, in front of the police at around 20.30? Maybe because it wasn´t like this? Or would there be another reason to lie about that? Many people would have felt relieved knowing the facts, good way to avoid a mass panic! Why waiting for hours and hours and letting the people stand in the darkness of knowing nothing?

I will leave this here, just some "thoughtfood". I have more, but will prepare it so i have only to copy and paste it here.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Chickensalad

As to the "lone wolf" spin, I don't know that I personally have bought that too many times in recent years.

It happens so often that, on this one, I clipped the headline just to prove that witnesses said there were 3 shooters, because I knew it would end up spun as a lone gunman, as usual.

In Baton Rouge the first reports claimed that the police were called because 2 men were shooting at each other. But that was wiped from the web as the lone gunman scenario was being pushed.

Actually in Baton Rouge the first reports were that officers were responding to a man with a gun call. It wasn't until a short time later that A, one, singular, witness claimed there were two men shooting at each other, even though multiple other witnesses referred to ONE gunman, singular, even on the day of the shooting. To include at least three that took video.

And this is how conspiracy theories are peddled. Somebody confuses their ignorance about an event for inconsistencies in the story. Or, in some cases, they blatantly manufacture a narrative and then claim that the official story is the one that's manufactured because it doesn't line up with the story they've made up.

In Munich, the reports ranged from "at least one" to "up to three" shooters and everything in between. Police said that witnesses claimed to have seen three men shooting. To my knowledge, police never said "yep we're definitely looking for three guys that all shot at people." They said they were looking for UP TO three guys.

Yet somehow, one post at a time, one page at a time, some members always manage to turn an event away from what the authorities actually said into something different, bit by bit, until they've crafted themselves a nice little story that they then stick to no matter what evidence is produced.

This isn't creative writing class.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Actually in Baton Rouge the first reports were that officers were responding to a man with a gun call.

I heard it on the TV news and I read it online; two men shooting at each other. Then that report disappeared. That's why I clipped that Yahoo page for this incident. lol I didn't want that to happen again, loosing intangible evidence. You can see by DerBeobachter's posts, the narrative often changes.

I don't want to fight about it.



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