The Hypocrites Iron Fist - The PC Movement in light of the War on Drugs

Ending the war on drugs is a double edged sword.

In spring of 2001, the Taliban placed a ban on poppies in Afghanistan. This was the largest economic attack against America. After the invasion, heroin production sky-rocketed to 95% of world supply. The banking and intelligence apparatus relies on the injection of funds from the illicit drug trade.

Legalization would cause economic collapse.

Side note: I always thought SJW meant slack jawed wankers.

originally posted by: SargonThrall
But you're exactly right that the civil-rights-movement-wannabes of modern day have taken things far past the goalpost and circled around to the starting point. They have been so anti-racist that many have become racist themselves. Hating white people for something other white people did is racism, period.

WELL SAID!

As for sharia law, can you provide one example of a self-identifying social justice warrior promoting it here? What about one example of someone being okay with stoning gay people? No? Methinks you are conflating acceptance of Muslims in general with some extremist stretch of the imagination. Supporting someone's right to faith is nowhere near supporting violence, and neither is it hypocritical.

No. But then again this is a trend I only just started noticing towards the end of writing this. Only noticing any of this stuff since Memorial Day, I'm hardly the expert on each "self-identifying" SJW. Most don't put that in their sig even. But following many threads related to the SJW canon, and in threads I didn't realize they were, I've noticed mostly the same names stepping up ANY time something that might have to do with, or whenever someone brings up anything about "PC", "SJW", and so on.

Just like in any thread where BLM gets brought up here they come, in total denial every time: in BLM inspired attacks "NOPE NOT BLM RELATED"), when there's a list of youtube videos and such showing BLM supporters calling for violence and murder (NOPE NOT BLM, NOTHING TO SEE HERE), and that sort of thing. That stood out right away to me early on.

But then I started noticing it with threads that have anything to do with ISIS (attack events), where its painfully obvious the attacks are ISIS and we get the echo chamber clapping with "NOPE, NOT ISIS" kind of noise. Even the term Islamic Extremist is supposedly offensive to non-extremists, or at least that's their excuse for trying to effectively ban the phrase.

Same folks pretty much all the time.

So then I started looking at Sharia, a choice example of modern day authoritarianism, and things just got weirder and werder, especially since I found all kinds of material of SJW's being total apologists for ISIS even (not mere protecting Muslims in general).

Which fits one of my main narrative points: That SJW's are authoritarian minded, and therefore subconsciously relate to other examples of authoritarianism.

From there the jist I've gathered regarding SJW's and their stance on Christian's is they are the ENEMY, which is to be destroyed (which is the stance of Islamic Extremism as well). It goes far beyond not being able to show images (which itself is deeply ironic & hypocritical given all the evangelical stormtroopering the SJW's do with their platform).

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
If ending the War On Drugs is a top priority for the SJW lot, then why doesn't the BLM site have some page that is the ULTIMATE debunker/destroyer of the War On Drugs? They've had over 3 years to do it. Yet it took me to do it for them, single-handedly, in only about 3 weeks.

It gets discussed constantly in SJW and BLM circles. Examples:
Salon
Jezebel
ACLU
KOS
Alter

Not to mention the reams of text books with really long names that specifically address institutionalized racism in the legal system and in relation to drugs. Can find you some from tumblr if too haha

As a side note, the argument that everyone should drop tools and deal with the most important issue first technically renders every single discussion pointless. This one for example... The anti-SJW movement is filled with hot air and rhetoric. If they really want to stop negative ideologies and if they really are against Islamic hate against women, why aren't they in the Middle East running education programs and fighting religious extremists? All they do is post on web boards saying that feminism is wrong...

You get the idea.

Anyway the key part of BLM was never about piles of research. There are already billions of words written from a social justice perspective on the war on drugs. It has been about ordinary people, not Rhodes scholars comparing statistics for better or worse.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Kali74

Now as for your talking points, I'll summarize... You project Libertarianism as the cure academic feminism seeks but twists itself into pretzels over while ignoring the type of feminism (really sociology) that exists in Left-Wing Libertarianism and its cry to end the War on Drugs.

Thank you!!! You just saved me about an hour of wasted time.

Kali didn't really refute anything. Mainly just complained about my language style, my academic approach.

I think it's most prudent you all take on the authoritarian stuff. Big long sections like the "NU-NAZI'S" you had better take head on, because the writing is on the wall now. Or maybe you're all, the lot of you that usually jump in to smack me down, perhaps you're all doing some soul searching today?

originally posted by: SargonThrall
You cannot be serious trying to compare people who make a choice to use (and sometimes abuse) an illegal substance with oppression for being born a certain color or sexuality. Regardless of the absurdity of it being illegal, people are still deliberately choosing to break a law.

People "decide" to be Muslim's. Some of those Muslim's "decide" to become Extremists. Then a great many SJW's justify BOTH of them to a fault.

The large majority of Americas social, economic and justice problems have arisen from prohibition / the drug war. It has been rotting our society for a long while now and the slow collapse we are seeing is the direct result, a long time in coming.

originally posted by: Pinke
It gets discussed constantly in SJW and BLM circles.

Discussion is one thing. Action is another. One of my main perpetual arguments across this "book" I wrote here is that is that if this phenomenon is for real, then why isn't this its main rally cry?

From my 6 week 'total-outsider' investigation into all of this, the bulk of everything I've seen is all about "Us vs. Oppressor" divisiveness.

I could go pull up conservative media posts that fall in line with those examples, if I really needed to, I suspect. I'm a libertarian, of course.

Not to mention the reams of text books with really long names that specifically address institutionalized racism in the legal system and in relation to drugs. Can find you some from tumblr if too haha

Good news for my position. The more data you bring in, the more data I have to demonstrate that even though they agree that its the CAUSE of the primary driving force premise of their entire platform, for the bulk of their zeal to not be focused on this issue, the more it proves how hollow the entire affair truly is.

Dont hate me, I wish they were energized into taking it down. Them not being is part of my frustration with it. The status quo needs to change, but as long as the efforts of the SJW's only prove to misdirect everybody from the core issues, the longer we're sure that nothing ever will change (in terms of actual progress).
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Very wild, yet very excellent OP.

S&F

Just want to commend the OP on their presentation and the amount of effort put into this. I am about halfway through and will finish in the morning, likely will have some comments tomorrow.

Just felt the OP deserved some praise for this. I haven't read enough to formulate an opinion in response but I HAVE read enough to know that some of the responses I've seen in protest while skimming through the pages here are an embarrassment.

We should WISH everyone put this much thought and effort into their posts. You do yourself and these forums a disservice by not engaging this OP in legitimate dialogue on this subject. Nay-saying for the sake of, with no support, just makes you look a fool.

Personally, I hope others follow this poster's example, regardless of their stance on the issues at hand.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss Fantasticly

well made thread and topic. I haven't finished reading the second post yet because i have to go out now so i just quickly wanted to applaud you for it but i will be finishing it as soon as i have the time to do.

Well done.

Have only read 2.5 posts, then scrolled to see I have to take out some time of the day to get through all this.

Posting for later, and to thank you for a well quality thread ats has been starving for in recent time.

Great work Ignoranceisntbliss! Star(s) and flag

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Holy crap, I have never before seen an OP that went the entire first page and had to be posted to the second page.

I don't get it personally. How many people do you think are going to read the whole thing? I didn't. You could leave out all the graphics and cut it in half.

Is this a paper for college or something you turned into a thread?

Holy post!!!

I read most of it, but I'm definitely coming back for more!

I have wondered why the SJWs aren't more out of sorts over the War on Drugs...

My conclusion was they're just idiots who don't really understand what's really going on in the world!

S&F for you! Excellent post, one of the best I have ever read on ATS.

originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Holy crap, I have never before seen an OP that went the entire first page and had to be posted to the second page.

I don't get it personally. How many people do you think are going to read the whole thing? I didn't. You could leave out all the graphics and cut it in half.

Is this a paper for college or something you turned into a thread?

Wtf? So you admit you didn't read the post, but then you criticize the OP on the graphics?

That's rich.

a reply to: Kali74

All you ever do is attack people who write any kind of argument against modern feminism.

Why not actually make an argument against OP's points?

originally posted by: sputniksteve
Is this a paper for college or something you turned into a thread?

This is Part 1 of my:

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I'm sorry but this is too convoluted IMO.

It goes from drugs to this and then that...Throwing pie graphs and bar graphs at people only confuses people because that's what they are intended to do and it doesn't reflect on the general population.

Did you know that eleventy percent of all white, black or ethnic races will see a violent act on television? a survey often has a small control group; researchers use small control groups and then extrapolate the results to the broader spectrum in order to sell a product or an agenda.

strangely enough, if it was a black person, or a member here who is a minority or black, whom presented any of this data, it would be dismissed as a 'Myth' or just pulling the race card or manipulating numbers in their favor.

I haven't finished reading this amazing thread yet.
But I had to comment on how well written it is and say thank you so much for this. This thread perfectly lays out every transgression from the SJW movement and it's disastrous social and civil ramifications. I truly hope this helps some people see the larger picture that these kinds of movement's actually drive a bigger wedge between society.

I'm almost to the point of just letting these individuals have their way. Maybe then they will see the very society and materialistic garbage they worship is a direct result of the things they claim to hate.

"Down with Capitalism!"
"Down with the patriarchy!"

Okay everyone throw away your cellphones and get rid of every defense mechanism we have as a society. A small group of radical idealists think a world without capitalism, white males, borders, and guns will be a utopia. Meanwhile back in reality we will continue to build an off the grid community away from these lunatics.