Federal Judge Rules No-Fly List Unconstitutional

a reply to: Gryphon66

Precedence... Maybe not, you might be right. But it certainly would seem to be a decision that leads that way.

Since I'm sure this will be challenged, I wonder if the ninth circuit will be the one to review, or if the Feds will try to change venue?

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Gryphon66

Precedence... Maybe not, you might be right. But it certainly would seem to be a decision that leads that way.

Since I'm sure this will be challenged, I wonder if the ninth circuit will be the one to review, or if the Feds will try to change venue?

I agree with you that the current system is a loser before any reasonable SCOTUS.

We all know the potential issues with that at this point ... as well.

a reply to: Gryphon66

We do, indeed.

Depending upon the severity of the slap down at the lower levels, it may not even see the SCOTUS.

To my laymans eye, it is ridiculously un-Constitutional, and shouldn't even warrant consideration by the court.

a reply to: yeahright

There is no constitutional right to drive either.

a reply to: NewzNose

There is a right to freely travel in the U.S.

Driving may not be a right, but being able to ride in a traveling vehicle is (unless you've committed a crime that forfeits that right through due process). But nobody is talking about a right to pilot a plane, but to ride in one. It's a small point, but a big difference.

Yeahright was wrong to claim that there is no constitutional right to fly (as I think you get)...as I have shown, there actually is, and it's explicitly stated as such in one of my quoted excerpts here.

originally posted by: Edumakated
The problem I have with a no fly list is that if someone is deemed such a threat that the government is going to restrict their movements, then that person needs to either be charged with a crime or deported if an immigrant. Obviously, the government has some information on a person and if that info is enough to restrict movement it should be enough to charge with a crime. The government should either put up and charge or shut up imho.

Or...they have absolutely no information and just decided to punish the person because they don't like them or don't agree with their beliefs or opinions. THAT is the problem with our current government. They attack the people...the American citizens, using the power they have been given. Once that began...the government became the enemy.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

A friend of mine recently renewed his passport, and he was told by one of the clerks that before long a passport card will be required for domestic airline flights too.