Society is forced to be accepting of gays & transgenders.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: celinem

Reminds me of the public being forced to desegregate schools, water fountains, restaurants, and accept black people.

Working out so far. Well, generation by generation.

Being gay is not the equivalent of being black. That's kind of insulting. That's just my humble opinion.

originally posted by: JimiBlack

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: celinem

Reminds me of the public being forced to desegregate schools, water fountains, restaurants, and accept black people.

Working out so far. Well, generation by generation.

Being gay is not the equivalent of being black. That's kind of insulting. That's just my humble opinion.

Yes it is. It is something about you beyond your control that a lot of people dont accept. Why on earth would you find that insulting

a reply to: 3danimator2014

The way society has treated both of those minority groups is the same...yes.

That is what he is talking about I believe.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

It is no where near the same as being black. This argument is just not right. Are you saying what Black people have gone through in this country is on the same level as being gay in America? I'm sorry but that is just crazy......you can't conceal being black.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Your first post, about the lessons history teaches us, has made my day. What you have posted, what you believe, is something that should be screamed as far and as loud as we are able to as human beings. I respectfully ask your permission to make your answer viral (of course, protecting your privacy and user name), since I truly believe more people should read it.

Cheers!

Edited to clarify which post I was referring to.

Sister you are in delirium, i like it, it is absolutely lovely my dear. There is no way to put wool over your eyes, you are all knowing. Go and be strong.
a reply to: SisterDelirium

a reply to: celinem

From the thread flags, I'd say you aren't alone there! I'm a bit stubborn myself. I don't agree with homosexuality, but others do, and they have a right to make their own decisions. They can even believe they don't have a choice. That's all well and good, till it gets to the point of telling me I have to agree. No, I don't! I don't have to agree, I don't have to approve, and I don't have to participate, in any way, with some activity or other, in a business.

The more someone pushes an issue, the more likely I am to dig in my heels. I don't take well to being pushed.

Don't think that's the case for most in that group, either. None that I have known acted that way. Live and let live was their attitude.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
That's all well and good, till it gets to the point of telling me I have to agree.

No one tells you you have to agree. Only to not be an ass about it. Very different

a reply to: YodaCoda

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May the force be with you, always!

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

They can even believe they don't have a choice.

Just the same way you have the right to believe in whatever "God" you choose. Both are existential belief's in nature, unable to be proven or disproven.

That's all well and good, till it gets to the point of telling me I have to agree. No, I don't! I don't have to agree, I don't have to approve, and I don't have to participate, in any way, with some activity or other, in a business.

Again I agree with you 100% so please do not hold me to the same rules and/or belief in religious doctrine that you hold, I do not acknowledge them. Shoving one anthers views and beliefs in others faces only serves to agitate one another to falling into the kind of calculated and manipulated divsivenss that TPTB use to keep us blind to the true evil's of the world.

I could share a foxhole with you if you could do the same for me in the face of a common enemy.

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
That's all well and good, till it gets to the point of telling me I have to agree.

No one tells you you have to agree. Only to not be an ass about it. Very different

Yes that's nice and all except when you disagree with things like this you are usually attacked.

a reply to: jasminnne

Not at all. Rubbish. One is only likely to be attacked if one makes a point of enforcing ones view, by treating people differently based on their membership of a demography one does not like, and particularly doing so in violation of something like a federal law making gay marriage legal, as in the case of the teary eyed wannabe victim from the states who tried to refuse marriage licenses on religious grounds, despite being told not to.

She was in the wrong, and I say that as a Christian fellow of long standing and steadfast commitment. You can argue that point if you wish, and that is fine, because it will only be your own time you would be wasting in being absolutely, one hundred percent, and completely wrong.

a reply to: jasminnne

You can disagree all you want, however, if you own a cake shop and a gay couple came in to purchase one of your cakes, you would have to serve them.

You can disagree, but you cannot discriminate...understand?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: YodaCoda

A U2U message is wending its merry way to your inbox as we speak, Master YodaCoda!

May the force be with you, always!

And with you!

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

This isn't an attack on you, just my curiosity.

Could I ask why you "Don't agree" with homosexuality? It's not like you have to join in! I just can't quite grasp the problem, unless it's religious and even then that's "just following orders"- you may not have a real problem with it.

I just like to hear the 'why's behind this sort of thing.

"Society is forced to be accepting of gays & transgenders."

No. Society is moving in a more accepting manner. It's the vocal minority that is beefing. Get on the bus or get run over.

originally posted by: intrepid
"Society is forced to be accepting of gays & transgenders."

No. Society is moving in a more accepting manner. It's the vocal minority that is beefing. Get on the bus or get run over.

Actually, "just mind your own business" seems more apt to me.

originally posted by: jasminnne
a reply to: 3danimator2014

It is no where near the same as being black. This argument is just not right. Are you saying what Black people have gone through in this country is on the same level as being gay in America?

You're right; it's not the same.

There were black free folk back in the days of slavery -- not that racism didn't reach them.

Being gay simply meant the death penalty for 100 years...

...Then changed to castration for another century...

...Then jailtime for another...

So, you're right; it's not on the same level at all.

You'd have to be completely uneducated on American history to think that black people had it as bad as gay people.

a reply to: DeadFoot

Gays could stay "closeted". Can't change your skin color. BIG difference.

a reply to: intrepid

But the discussion is about the treatment of the individual in relation to their difference once it is known. Both black people and gay people have suffered oppression — to varying degrees in different contexts — which is the point you seem to have missed.

Gay people shouldn't have to try hide their sexuality any more than a black person should have to try hide their skin colour.