Hillary Clinton Received Secret Memo Stating Obama Admin ‘Support’ for ISIS

a reply to: Grambler

Exactly.

And this is also mostly likely why this happened:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Obama knew he had to control the narrative and the investigations in order to hide what was really going on. So through the State Department and Hillary Clinton, the administration established their own "Bureau of Counterterrorism".
Could this "partnership" with the DHS have been created as a tool to hide any investigation that might reveal the involvement of government?

As stated in the OP of the post linked here, it seems the State Department interfered in an investigation that could have prevented recent terrorist attacks.

exactly ! they were discussing this on real time with bill maher last night and the bunch of idiots couldn't wrap their minds around the idea that the left would go right with trump ! are they kidding ? good lord how much more does it take to realize that something very big is going on and it smells bad !

I remember the pro-american crowd ( mr spad, tsurfer, djw...etc ) calling me a russian shill for stating this fact for such a long time.

One would think I'd get some sort of satisfaction for being right, but I don't. I only wish for the people of the US of A to see what kind of people run their government and jut how retarded they are. Learn from the past. You cannot control terrorists. No matter how useful you think they might be to you, don't try to control them. Don't ally with them, only so you could accomplish something.

I mean, I still can't believe there were people explaining to me how obama was actually bombing ISIS for a year, and not making any progress. It was a legit bs.

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: MysticPearl
Trump continues to right.

He says the truth, the leftist media jumps all over him with an "I can't believe he said that" argument. The liberal minions who can't think for themselves jump on board and trash Trump.

Then, like clockwork, the truth comes out.

Rinse and repeat.

The US, led by Obama and Hillary are some of the greatest supporters of Islamic extremism, including ISIS, there is. Those are the true anti-Americans who should be locked up for treason.

you make t,his statement in the face of this ridiculously made up article? It seems more to me the right will desperately clutch on to anything putting a negative spin on the Democrats because they have a candidate that can't possibly in a million years win. This election is over. Lol

originally posted by: xuenchen

I knew it !!

I have had doubts about the U.S. actually bombing ISIS positions.

I never believed it.

I bet Obama is ordering bombs to fall on other positions.

Like maybe in favor of ISIS.

I knew it.

What? How do you explain the vast territories lost by ISIS and gained by the Syrian YPG, SDF and other opposition forces, as well as the Iraqi Peshmerga, and the Iraqi Army. It certainly wasn't Russia doing the legwork when it came to supporting these groups and forcing ISIS out of regional territories. Russia has supported the Syrian Arab Army against ISIS in Homs, Palmyra and Aleppo, but the US-led coalition has done much more to combat ISIS.

Besides, the document in the OP describes the links between the coalition and terrorist groups as the former's support of the Syrian revolution, which has terrorist elements. Coalition support of the opposition doesn't necessarily mean they support the more extreme elements of it. We certainly know that the US has been selective in who they chose to directly support in the conflict.

a reply to: TrueBrit

I was thinking the same thing. We already knew this. Several years ago. I believe it was even covered by some form of MSM. We funded Taliban during the Russian/Afgan war, then again, funded IS to overthrow Bashier Assad, so as not to get out hands dirty with ME mud. (that time) Which is why we had such a hard time dealing with Russia's involvement in Syrian/IS fighting.

It's almost as if nobody was paying attention back then. I didn't even think it was "theory", it was fact.

originally posted by: Cygnis
The idea, forevermore, should be banished that the "government is here to help and take care of it's citizens", it is no better than a caged dangerous animal that when left to it's own devices, does the unspeakable.

That wasn't always the idea--that is why there were so many limitations on a centralized government written into the Constitution. But what can you do when "the people" keep voting in these politicians who literally laugh at people who cite the Constitution, never get prosecuted for the illegal things they do, and keep writing and passing laws and executive orders that are tantamount to pissing on the constitution itself?

Demanding impeachments and trials does absolutely nothing in our current state of government. I still have faith in the system as written and intended in the Constitution--I just have zero faith in the people sworn to uphold the Constitution, and these are the people for whom the apathetic America keeps voting.

a reply to: daaskapital

Just a general question--how do you KNOW about the lost territory? The reasons behind it?

I'm guessing by reports backed by the government's intelligence and claims.

I hate to say it, but unless you can go over there and see it with your own eyes, you just can't trust what you're reading or hearing anymore.

Of course there really is fighting going on between our troops and ISIS fighters, but is it really to the extent of what we're being told?

a reply to: network dude

Well, exactly!

The whole War on Terror has been nothing short of a shell game, with parties whose backers are IDENTICAL fighting one another for real, just to keep up appearances for the cameras, and provide reasons to enter sovereign nations without the support of local government, or directly against the will of its residents.

Essentially, we are talking about a situation where the terror groups which our western leaders have decried and demonised, are actually our leaders most useful agent provocatuers. Its a travesty, and leaders should be thrown down deep holes for this.

a reply to: daaskapital

You actually believe all that?

so the two 'sources' are.

breitbart, trump's biggest backer.
judicial watch, tried to indict bill clinton over 500 times, obama nearly as much, obama birthers, already trying to indict hillary.

impartial?

originally posted by: stinkelbaum
so the two 'sources' are.

breitbart, trump's biggest backer.
judicial watch, tried to indict bill clinton over 500 times, obama nearly as much, obama birthers, already trying to indict hillary.

impartial?

Are you saying JW is manufacturing their official FOIA request results?

a reply to: IAMTAT

No hes saying he hates right wing Christian news sources

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: IAMTAT

No hes saying he hates right wing Christian news sources

Always a convenient tactic to dismiss something you don't like.

a reply to: stinkelbaum

wait till wiki leaks dumps all of clintons emails. these people are dirty whether you like to admit it or not.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Let's take a look at a section as highlighted by this poster here:

originally posted by: pavil
actual supposed memo

If true, point 8c is pretty damming. They knew they were supporting/backing /not stopping ISIS. The big question is whose brilliant idea was this after the mess in Libya. Wait till Russia leaks H.C.'s emails........

Note the portion that states, "ISI could also declare an Islamic State..." (caps lock not used in an attempt to get you to look at the content of the message rather than the form in which it is delivered). What you are seeing is intelligence reports (note the redaction codes) in regards to the beginnings of ISIS. Possible outcomes were projected if current trends continued, and look at what we have today.

What this report shows is that those in power at the time were warned of outcomes that we see as having happened.

They knew and either were too dumb to stop it or were involved in creating it, in either case consequences should befall those responsible.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: daaskapital

Just a general question--how do you KNOW about the lost territory? The reasons behind it?

I'm guessing by reports backed by the government's intelligence and claims.

I hate to say it, but unless you can go over there and see it with your own eyes, you just can't trust what you're reading or hearing anymore.

Of course there really is fighting going on between our troops and ISIS fighters, but is it really to the extent of what we're being told?

How do you know if ISIS is being directly supported or funded by the USA, despite the fact they've been the coalition's enemies for over ten years? Besides this document, which doesn't tell us much, a lot of the information comes from propaganda outlets or unfounded, conspiratorial sources.

You're right, none of us can trust what we're reading or hearing, but it goes both ways. I don't know everything which is happening in Syria, and neither do you or anyone else here. That said, anyone who actually takes some time to analyse the Syrian situation, the forces involved, and the propaganda, will have a greater understanding of the conflict than anyone else sitting in their armchair spouting # left, right and centre - something a lot of people here are doing.

Information on the Syrian situation doesn't only originate from government reports. You can follow events in real time from the many forces and sources on the ground. A lot of it is propaganda, but bull# is generally weeded out fast and happenings can often be confirmed. Look at the Kurdish YPG/Syrian Democratic Forces, for example. We know they have taken a lot of ISIS territory, and last week, surrounded Manbij. Why? Because there is information coming from the ground. These forces would not be where they are if the coalition had left them hanging in Kobani, which was itself a large spectacle.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: daaskapital

You actually believe all that?

I'm not going to waste my time with those who are being facetious.

Sorry.

Well your hero picked up this story and tweeted a link to breitbart. All of msm is laughing at him.
They are laughing at the constant stream of conspiracy theories this man is willing to present.
That he could advance an idea that a sitting president has a secret agenda with a known enemy does not sit well with resident on either sides of the aisle.
Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. He's eaten so much shoe leather in the last 72 hours he should change his name to Thom McCann.
The amount of fear and hate he is trying to stir up is beyond words.
"All Muslims talk to each other even if they're not radicalized they know someone who is. They know and they should be held accountable if they don't tell. . When you're talking to your neighbor who is a Muslim you're talking to a terrorist or someone who knows one" just malign an entire group of people. Despicable.

Now watch as the responses to this post come in.
But Hillary did this...and Hillary said that and she's a liar and a criminal instead of actually addressing his words yesterday.

One more point when Hillary said we have to pass laws that prevent people on a terrorist watch list or no fly list even if they are removed from that list from ever being able to purchase a gun. Trump interpreted that as she's going to abolish the second amendment . He was all over that yesterday. Flip over to today and he's going to talk to the NRA about laws saying anyone on a no fly list should be on a no buy list. I bet he even presents it as an original idea.

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