Social Engineering: Proof That Media Exposure Can Warp Gender Identity In Adult Men

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
Is that really how you see yourself? The Defender Of All Children Against Tyranny?

I had to respond in a hurry 'yesterday' in between hard outdoor work, cool downs.

Pro-war dude already brought my anti-imperialism thread up from a couple weeks ago, me pissed about kids getting blown up being a major motivator in that thread, as discussed herein.

My other thread from a couple days later:
Beyond Conspiracy: Entire generation growing up on this ultra diabolical "FREEMIUM GAME MODEL"

Along with my motives for getting sucked into this damn larger topic, that would be the trifecta.

The bulk of my 'work' in this site, during my little return to the keyboard the past couple-few weeks, has been at the core almost entirely motivated by mass scale INJUSTICES to children.

I would like to point out that the media has been heavily promoting gender segregation and gender stereotypes for centuries, this is nothing new for the media to be involved in gender identity. If anything, it is better because we are breaking down the barriers between genders and people have more options to express themselves.

You need a cartoon to teach you to dress up like a little girl would to figure out how to express yourself?

Dear human race: What ever happened to creativity?

Find your own path, I know I have.

Genders are different, and at the youngster level SHOULD be segregated. Now that's ANY AND ALL boys (including the sexual deviants) can justify being in the girls room, incidents of sexual assault are sure to rise.

That is not progress.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

That's because you are in France. I suspect that even in the north you would be received in the same manner. Some people would just stare, while others laugh at you. After all, French people are known for their apprehension of "the cowboy culture".

Ok... I didn't know they were known for that. I spend lots of my time at western riding events, so I guess I am more used to the part of the population that worships the cowboy myth.

But that detail aside- why, if people are just plain feeling more free to do as they already desire deep inside,
do we not see as many women suddenly coming out as we do men?
Why are there not more women here suddenly letting that chin hair grow, or wearing running shoes (outside of a gym), or wearing unshapely jeans, more masculine type of looks? Why is there not a parallel growth of women daring to do the same thing we are seeing the men doing?

Wait... are you sure you are in socialist "France"?

Yes.... you are aware that socialist culture values conformity and majority rule, right?
They are still far from accepting the idea of stepping out of the traditional family structure.

The Americans have an idea of Socialism that is very particular to them- I know what you mean because I am American, but a whole lot of what we'd call socialist is not that for the rest of the world. Don't ever tell a french person they are from a socialist country, they will not have any idea what you mean and will likely be very offended.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Like yourself, I also have found myself very confused about what exactly is "Transgender" and whether or not there is some sort of agenda to "dilute" traditional Male and Female identities. Now I understand that many people are embracing the notion that people should be able express themselves as whatever they "feel".. be it the opposite sex, a pony or whatever, I also believe there is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual fetishes, that's where this whole topic gets "dicey". I guess my opinion at this point is that a sincere desire to not discriminate against the LGBT community has lead to expecting an unquestioned acceptance of any and all deviant behavior, especially concerning sexuality.

a reply to: Bluesma

I think part of the reason this is happening to more males is because of the chemicals in food and water, pretty freaky stuff if you look into it. I also think our education system is more geared to how girls learn more then how boys learn, mostly because boys learn in a more "physical" way which is harder to manage. Why are so many little boys diagnosed with ADD , is it because they don't sit still and learn as well as girls ?

originally posted by: MountainLaurel
I guess my opinion at this point is that a sincere desire to not discriminate against the LGBT community has lead to expecting an unquestioned acceptance of any and all deviant behavior, especially concerning sexuality.

Unless there is a victim.

Gender is in the brain. Just as your brain tells you who you are, a transgender's brain tells them who they are.

Creating a human is extremely complex, what man has determined "normal" is not always how "the soup gets stirred".

originally posted by: MountainLaurel
a reply to: Bluesma

I think part of the reason this is happening to more males is because of the chemicals in food and water, pretty freaky stuff if you look into it.

I don't buy any of that to having a major effect. None of this is new.

I had an ADD daughter and I have a high functioning Autistic grandson. The larger spectrum and early detection has increased the numbers. In our family, it appears to be hereditary.

Women (most) have had the freedom to express themselves however they want for many years. Certain areas will have customs of dress, but are not really going to be surprised if a woman dresses differently. They may take a second look, but will accept women how ever they dress.

Even here on the Los Angeles beaches, which is pretty much anything goes, you can usually tell if someone's not from the area.

Brony does not equal Transgender.

Period.

My young sons and I watch Shimmer and Shine. Are we all gay?

a reply to: Bluesma

Women have had fashion freedom a lot longer than men to choose whatever... in the US culture it was the 80s where fashion started to be a trend or cororate target instead of some quirky eccentric behavior.

Accetance changes what is shocking or avant guard does too, in various communities... of course in the US conservatism doesnt mean the same think as it does in Europe although they carry sort of the same agenda when its a far right policy or group. In the US conservatism and values typically means preservation of ideas and ways of living by people that dont like to see change or progress and try to social norm that into law.

Using law to discriminate is obviously illegal in the country across the pond but... theres no shortage of states rights laws doing it or atempting too even though the countries founding constitution... what many fail to realize as we are moving into the 21st century towards global unity in progression already there tech wise to a great extent except by those countries trying to firewall the rest of the world out in censorship... or control of knowledge...

That we have 50 states a few territories and consitutions for every single one of them to keep the that ones mission statement... but with entrenchment and corruption of special interest groups some states want to succeed altoghter like a whole other country in regress not progress with a pander of hey we dont like that kind over here and want to border an entire state into that bias or hate... making some people just flat out stuck if thats where their family and livelyhood happen to live as well... uprooting isnt as easy and there are many trying to make it as difficult as possible into trying to micromanage and control everyones lives that are not them nor fit their ideal or belief system that flouts right in the face of the constitution itself.

Whole states corrupt and trying to go rogue with their own constitution instead of remaining United, thats just another Civil War waiting to happen when divide and conquer has become such an extreme of two parties making the entire place bipolar in functioning or disfunctioning.

Well there is a very clear dividing line between these two extremes... both left and right are being shoved into extremism one demanding control and one demanding liberty... both extremes but the difference is the one with all the stock piled weapons and guns? Can easily become millitant... but thats not to protect the constitution of the US in all respects as sometimes its used simply as an excuse this is why theres a keen eye on gun control and does someone really need 45 assualt rifles that isnt a collector or enthusiast... one home invasion away of arming 45 criminals if not more.

So obviously a heated issue and has been for a very long time... Ive shot guns in my youth as they were something neat and different in that whole pretend transition... of course many laces went from playing cowboys and indians as a sick trope for an old enemy to gangs as an enemy to now global terrorist that could be your neighbor as an enemy... and mind you this starts out as kids play bang bang now I got you... and declaring war on anything like drugs means guns are going to be involved.

So when we blanket a problem and slap a title of "war on" instead of seeking logical, rational and reasonible solutions then it becomes an unreasonable battle.

Some gun owners hunt and that all they want to do with them, some are collectors and that all the want to do with them, some need them for work in a police or security field and thats all they want to do with them, and well some want to stock pile like its the end of the world paranoid and armed to the teeth or worried it will become that out of fear and armed to the teeth.

Of course weve created this boogyman whether that fear wears a dress or carries a gun makes no diffence when its really ignorance in disguse, control in a disguse, and agenda to pander for whatever reason in disguse.

The people wanting to wear dresses etc or whatever male or female arnt disguising a damned thing thats who they are... of course the agenda not wanting such freedom has had agent provacators dressing as women and going into the bathroom to pretend like its a huge issue and look whats happening now its legal... thats BS its vieled propaganda for an agenda to control why? Because even before the law it was already occuring without any hitch or issue until people started noticing it and making it one... then the discrimination came down hard and heavy states flouting the constitution trying to write their own to legally discriminate...

Yes that is not a new thing either its been going on for decade upon decade without any separation of church and state that it was supposed to be that moved from ethics into morals when they are 100% not the same thing. Ethics allow freedom and morals take it away.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

OK.

originally posted by: Annee

You refuse to listen. You keep the blinders on.

In a discussion about this......with the ponies........blinders.......


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: Annee

You refuse to listen. You keep the blinders on.

In a discussion about this......with the ponies........blinders.......


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll refrain my opinion of you.

originally posted by: awareness10
What the HELL HAPPENED TO NORMAL CARTOONS?

Cartoons these days are sh't, total sh't.

This god awful cartoon is one,

Sponge bob is another,

Load of Crap is what they are.

All the characters are either disgusting looking or act feminate and yes, they do use subliminals and mind control in Television/Movies/Comercialism so don't pretend like they don't exist.

My kids never liked any of them. None! They LOVE the old Looney Tunes I have on disc, though!!

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: Annee

You refuse to listen. You keep the blinders on.

In a discussion about this......with the ponies........blinders.......


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll refrain my opinion of you.

No sense of humor? That was quite punny......

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I don't know any kids who do, they're kinda freakish and plastik like. The old stuff, is all that's left you can still watch in cartoon land.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I don't know any kids who do, they're kinda freakish and plastik like. The old stuff, is all that's left you can still watch in cartoon land.

Mine took one look, at a preview usually, and were asking of people really watched that.....

Some of the stuff is utterly mindless.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I don't know any kids who do, they're kinda freakish and plastik like. The old stuff, is all that's left you can still watch in cartoon land.

Mine took one look, at a preview usually, and were asking of people really watched that.....

Some of the stuff is utterly mindless.

You've got that right, these new trendy cartoons are truly mindless, even more so. I briefly watched sponge bob and it creeped me out. The characters are ugly and just gross looking, in fact they look as though someone smoked crac k prior to creating them.

originally posted by: awareness10

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I don't know any kids who do, they're kinda freakish and plastik like. The old stuff, is all that's left you can still watch in cartoon land.

Mine took one look, at a preview usually, and were asking of people really watched that.....

Some of the stuff is utterly mindless.

You've got that right, these new trendy cartoons are truly mindless, even more so. I briefly watched sponge bob and it creeped me out. The characters are ugly and just gross looking, in fact they look as though someone smoked crac k prior to creating them.

That one creeped out my kids!! One look on a commercial, and they were asking why anyone wanted to watch it. Love these kids, truly!!

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Children who haven't been herded and had disney and propaganda thrown at them would want to watch these, you have intelligent Children who can decifer what is corrupt and twisted from that which isn't! Kudos!

All these things on Television or as the Big Corps. themselves call it, Programming just love it that they can induce the Masses with total ease. It's degrading the minds of Children, and some adults, everywhere!