Orlando Nightclub Massacre

a reply to: Liquesence

What are currently considered to be "facts," so far:

The suspect:

Was a US citizen.
Legally bought his guns.
Proclaimed via phone allegiance to the leader of IS.
Murdered 50 people in a gay night club.
Is dead.

I will correct the first one. He was born on our soil to Afghan parents. That does not mean he was an American. He was a jihadist with loyalty to extreme Islam and was about as much an American as Mao or Hitler or Pol Pot.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Liquesence

A few more key facts,

He was investigated at least twice by the FBI but the Obama administration has banned investigating Muslims deeply until after they strike and commit acts of terror.

He was a registered democrat who voted for Obama.

Ah yes, he was "on the radar" and the FBI investigated him twice. I forgot that.

As soon as you bring partisan rhetoric into this, your post loses relevance.

a reply to: queenofswords

Yep. I think I'm about ready to redefine "homegrown".

a reply to: TinfoilTP


Fair enough, but I think it was far and away beyond what was necessary.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Pyrrho
Was a good speech until he decided he needed to bring up his ignorant desire to hit the 2nd amendment over this event

He doesn't just represent you, ya know.

He is president of the whole country - - and some of those citizens want gun control addressed.

Sorry but you can't stop bad people from acquiring illegal firearms

You can only stop good people from acquiring legal firearms

Again, it's ignorance. Nothing more.

a reply to: neo96

Since he is been in power he had circumvented the policies on middle eastern immigrants put in place after 9/11 to bring hundred of thousands of people to the US behind Americans citizens door, incentives has been given to the states that takes this people and they had been planted all over the nation.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Liquesence

What are currently considered to be "facts," so far:

The suspect:

Was a US citizen.
Legally bought his guns.
Proclaimed via phone allegiance to the leader of IS.
Murdered 50 people in a gay night club.
Is dead.

I will correct the first one. He was born on our soil to Afghan parents. That does not mean he was an American. He was a jihadist with loyalty to extreme Islam and was about as much an American as Mao or Hitler or Pol Pot.

I said US citizen, which he was. FACT.

He was born in the US; therefore he was an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Smh.

Can y'all do me a favor and remind of something?

When the Boston Marathon bombings occurred did the president hold a press conference and address pipe bomb law(s)....

Just curious since it seems this is playing out exactly how we imagined it would:
radical Islam, nope.....gun control, yep...

-Christosterone

originally posted by: ssenerawa
But Y the really long text convo with ur mom? y not just call her or better yet call the police ur self instead of texting someone else to call them?

Sorry i had to come back to answer this. A text can be read over and over again if you are killed, a phone call words can be forgotten in the horror of all that is going on in the back ground. The words of a text can help ease the pain in the years to come should you die

If I were gay and going to any events in the near future id be worried about copy cats.

a reply to: Timely
it willprobably be told that it was a confused kid and the potus and h clinton will say we need a ban on assualt rifles the fact that he declared himself to be aligned with isis will be redacted in a day or so what i am wondering why when they were having the update from hospital they had a clearly muslim guy standing just behind the doctor?

Obama should have destroyed ISIS in the first month of its existence
It’s too late now.

This proves its either a part of some sinister, Illuminati-type plot or the US government is very stupid.

This kind of evil stuff feeds on itself

In a few years we may have to have a real police state and dictatorship

Maybe Trump

The cats out the bag its too late to stop

one must begin to look at why they really hate America.

There are gay clubs all over the world. in countries where, they wouldnt give a toss about gay death tolls.
we kill their elderly women children by the hundred thousands, they kill ours by the tens, hundreds, and once thousands.

we should go by the numbers, since they dont lie. we'll see why America is a special target.

either way, there will be no end to this. you cant fight something non physical, you cant fight ideals. neither side can fight the others ideals... its a vicious circle, inside an inevitable cycle.

That pic we've had popped up here of him with the cell phone has been confirmed to be him by a senior official.

originally posted by: Christosterone
Can y'all do me a favor and remind of something?

When the Boston Marathon bombings occurred did the president hold a press conference and address pipe bomb law(s)....

Just curious since it seems this is playing out exactly how we imagined it would:
radical Islam, nope.....gun control, yep...

-Christosterone

Look at my post on the last page and youll understand what the hell is going on.

pearls before swine

a reply to: Pyrrho

Exactly, and the drum on banning guns will start beating again, taking guns from American citizens will erode more the nation only way to personal security, guns will keep getting into the hands of terrorist regardless.

a reply to: Timely

"Moderate" muslims have tacitly supported terrorism since the 7th century - numerous polls confirm that moderate muslims by and large idealistically support terroristic acts even if they are not participants. The true moderates who disapprove of the violence should be speaking out but they don't for legitimate fear of violent reprisal. Their entire culture would have to change to put a stop to their bloodlust and this seems very unlikely.

Meanwhile, we have a president who can't even utter the f**king phrase "islamic terrorism".

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: neo96

Since he is been in power he had circumvented the policies on middle eastern immigrants put in place after 9/11 to bring hundred of thousands of people to the US behind Americans citizens door, incentives has been given to the states that takes this people and they had been planted all over the nation.

All by design.

The current administration has enabled this crap.

So that the Orlandos, and San Bernadio's WILL happen.

And to think LGBT's biggest problem YESTERDAY was where to take a snip.

Today it's getting shot.

a reply to: marg6043

It's not about banning guns or anything to do with guns that's to obvious.

It's what he didn't say that you have to listen to.

originally posted by: Christosterone
Can y'all do me a favor and remind of something?

When the Boston Marathon bombings occurred did the president hold a press conference and address pipe bomb law(s)....

Just curious since it seems this is playing out exactly how we imagined it would:
radical Islam, nope.....gun control, yep...

-Christosterone

No, I don't remember the push for pressure cooker control. I think just about anyone can buy still with no background check or anything.