Orlando Nightclub Massacre

I wonder how many US troops are going to be sent into the ME to fight ISIS now. I imagine the general public will support the actions, much like after 911.

OK, I understand that this was a gay bar, but am I to understand that the only victims were gays? Because everything I see is acting as if that is the case.

originally posted by: 200Plus
a reply to: marg6043


What does all of that have to do with the Tinfoil posting this garbage:

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

Don't worry, every die hard liberal stool pusher just became proud war mongering gun owning Trump supporter

I fail to see how calling someone out on their anti-homosexual slurs is in any way, shape, or form being an apologist for an Islamic attack.

When all you see in a thread about an Islamic terrorist mass killing gays is a descriptive phrase that you dislike,

you may be an Islamic terror apologist.

Simple isn't it?

To me, the fact these Terrorists are becoming more and more HOMEGROWN is WORSE.

a reply to: UnBreakable

I agree, but his parents also said he was not very religious.

SITE intelligence group is reporting that a IS Amaq (IS "media") has claimed an "IS Fighter" is behind the Orlando attack.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
SITE intelligence group is reporting that a IS Amaq (IS "media") has claimed an "IS Fighter" is behind the Orlando attack.

They all need to be exterminated. Period. Down to the last one.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Then call it for what it is: government incompetence.

And government incompetence is nonpartisan.

It is irrelevant whether he voted, or was registered as a, democrat or republican.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
To me, the fact these Terrorists are becoming more and more HOMEGROWN is WORSE.

Exactly, it means the methods and ability to radicalize our own Muslim population is within the gates, so to speak, and this is a very real problem. We used to have a fairly Americanized Muslim population, but if they're being turned against us, that is a major issue.

originally posted by: roadgravel
I wonder how many US troops are going to be sent into the ME to fight ISIS now. I imagine the general public will support the actions, much like after 911.

exactly my point

problem reaction solution

they want us screaming to go back into the middle east so they can use it against us in the future and avoid prosecution as war criminals

a reply to: Liquesence

I'll stand up to it.

I don't care if it pisses off a fellow conservative or not. Gay people are not a threat to anyone. Islamic Jihadists are a threat even to themselves.

The disgusting attitude people take with regard to certain groups of people in this country tells me we have a very long way to go as a nation.

I don't believe in "tolerance". To tolerate something means doing something you don't wanna do or belief in. What we need is inclusiveness and acceptance.

There are very few groups in this country as discriminated against as gay people. We would do well, as conservatives, to include them in the the push for greater constitutional liberties.

I read hateful people push them away. They always talk about how gun rights protect the most vulnerable among us, but they then celebrate the death of those vulnerable people who desperately need a voice on both sides of the isle.

a reply to: whatnext21

That is interesting, we have been pretty much safe in the way of terrorist act since the last one in California, I guess we have let our guard down and forgot that when it comes to blind hatred to anything that is not Islamic we can never let our guard down, I had no clue that one of their radical holidays was coming soon.

What that tells us, be in guard people.

originally posted by: roadgravel
I wonder how many US troops are going to be sent into the ME to fight ISIS now. I imagine the general public will support the actions, much like after 911.

And it will be pointless as always.

They will scatter like always and survive.

Only way to beat it is to cut off the head and that means embargos of Saudi arabia and the UAE.

Strange, I seem to recall when 89 people at the Paris Bataclan theatre were gunned down that many Americans on here were writing things like "This only happened in Europe because they aren't allowed any guns" (which isn't actually true). Also, like some random guy with a gun would have been able to shoot back like in a cowboy movie.

Well. It looks like it has happened in America. The guy actually started his rampage by shooting a guy with a gun. And it looks like the death toll could very well rise to similar levels of those in Paris. Armed citizens who legally carry guns are only useful if they actually know how to use it. Most aren't.

The guy might have had legal access to an assault type rifle, but the terrorists in Paris certainly didn't get their guns legally. So this argument can go both ways.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Then call it for what it is: government incompetence.

And government incompetence is nonpartisan.

It is irrelevant whether he voted, or was registered as a, democrat or republican.

It means Islamic terrorists support one sides policies, not because they love them but because it makes their dastardly tasks easier.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UnBreakable

I agree, but his parents also said he was not very religious.

Interesting point. I once heard Fareed Zacharia say that it's not only the religious that sometime turn violent, but sometimes it's the violent that suddenly turn religious.

originally posted by: ketsuko
OK, I understand that this was a gay bar, but am I to understand that the only victims were gays? Because everything I see is acting as if that is the case.

It's logical to presume the majority of people in a gay bar are gay, and by extension the majority of victims.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Now that I do, I fully believe that this mass shooting was indeed a terrorist attack inspired by ISIS.

INSPIRED by yes, but CAUSED by is a whole other story.

a reply to: projectvxn

Talk about gun control, talk about Islamic jihad, talk about violence in general...I just can't take wanton hatred like this. It's a shame people like this play for the gun rights team.

Then the president should have kept his mouth shut about how 'easy' it is for people to get them.