Hillary Clinton to be indicted on racketeering charges.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: introvert

He says HuffPo never contacted him nor asked him for sources, they just pulled the post unilaterally.

They have every right to pull anything a user posts that is unverified until they can get verification or evidence for the claim(s).

It's odd, however, that HuffPost didn't contact HIM to ask about his sources and/or evidence...especially if they had an actual desire to validate his claims.
Certainly, they could have offered him a promise of confidentiality.

That's a good, and valid point. They either didn't ask because A) they know it's complete unverifiable BS or B) they're trying to hide something.

Regardless, has the author publicly provided a source or evidence to anyone yet?

Re: A): How could they possibly know it's "completely unverifiable"?

That certainly is the question, and one to which I do not have the answer.

That's why we're searching for veracity.

How does the system indict itself? lol hahahahahah

Hillary is part of the establishment. And, so is Trump. Why do people insist on thinking those 2 are some kind of saviors?

We have to COMPLETELY wake up, if things are going to change. We must stop drinking the government's kool-aid.

a reply to: JuJuBee

i agree we, as the people of America, need to throw out the house, the senate, congress, the head of FBI, disband the CIA, NSA, FBI, and every other corrupt agency and government official.

Without violence somehow. Is this possible?

a reply to: booyakasha

Nyet.

Not possible.

a reply to: booyakasha

I wish life was fairer than it is now.

I hope so desperately that this is true and leaves an opening for Bernie to prevail. That would be so awesome.

Hoax bin ?

a reply to: odzeandennz

Toss it in the dumpster

a reply to: JuJuBee

Trump is NOT part of the establishment. The establishment is made up of the wealthy families and their distant cousins that have infiltrated the political system who originally built America. We are talking old names, Morgans, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Schwab other industrial, finance, and agriculture power houses.

People like Clinton and the Bush's do have blood that goes far enough back to be tied in with that. Trump is new money. His pop got wealthy after all the old names learned they had to rule from the shadows because of the evolving information technology would expose their influence. He really is not even that influential as far as whispering into the ears of policy makers.

The establishment today, like all of human history are the kingpins of industry and agriculture. And in addition to the historical regulars, we now add the kingpins of energy, pharmaceutical, and information(media) who can be called as the establishment. Trump is only involved with very little of any of that through ownership of shares. As a family, they have been relatively independent and fairly uninvolved with any kind of policy making through influence in congress. Real estate can easily make you wealthy, but it is the old world's business in regards to influence. Post industrial is all about consumption, and never ceasing production to fill that demand.

He is rich, and maybe deep down he is a little bit of an arrogant guy, but he is not establishment. He will receive a wake up call unfortunately when he is elected and I am wondering how he will respond to the fact that old money still runs this country with him in the Oval Office. There will be fireworks no doubt. His descendants will eventually become establishment.

I suspect the Waltons have had their share of influence not because of their retail business, but through their finance sector. I suspect ties to Clinton are possible due to home state.

originally posted by: AmericanRealist
a reply to: JuJuBee

Trump is NOT part of the establishment. .......... His descendants will eventually become establishment.

And the cycle of power continues. As it always has.

A Game of Thrones.

I want this to be true as much as any of you...but I wonder how this is going on. It was made up by a weird 'frizbee expert and filmmaker' and got it's 5 min of fame on HuffPo blogs. Then it got pulled down.

The only recipient of this nonsense is the OP. In getting their post on the front page of ATS (* Facepalm) and flags and stars galore.

Why this is still in political news, I have no idea.

People have just completely lost their minds here.

I don't care if Trump IS part of the "establishment". He has actually done some of the things he's promising to Make America Even Greater, albeit on a smaller scale, of course. Hillary has done nothing except get voted or appointed into a few government positions in the last 30 years. She's just a run-of-the-mill politician. The kind that people from all walks of life always gripe about. (i.e. "They say one thing to get elected and then do something different, or nothing at all!")

originally posted by: carewemust
I don't care if Trump IS part of the "establishment". He has actually done some of the things he's promising to Make America Even Greater, albeit on a smaller scale, of course. Hillary has done nothing except get voted or appointed into a few government positions in the last 30 years. She's just a run-of-the-mill politician. The kind that people from all walks of life always gripe about. (i.e. "They say one thing to get elected and then do something different, or nothing at all!")

Trump has done absolutely Zero. but that is still not the OP.

The OP...focus.

a reply to: reldra


OK.. on topic. I predict that the Hillary racketeering indictment(s) will come soon, and will hit like a bombshell, catching even the DNC off-guard. The jist has already been leaked, according to the O.P.. I wonder if they will inform Hillary, before going public?

This thread obviously has no focus. It is on 73 flags and 13 pages and based on a made up blog.

I can see the blog writer is a HARDCORE Sanders fan. He picked a holiday weekend day to put that blog up in HuffPo 'contributors'. A good plan, if you want to put up a fake article with no sources and let it get screen shotted before anyone noticed. I applaud his thought process in order to be fairly successful in his plan.

But really, people HERE fall for it hook, line and sinker. That is sad.


We demand a certain level of sources in most of our threads..but this one got away with NONE?

a reply to: Tempter

well you have to become the establishment to actually change it. Noone is going to follow nobodies right??? I have drawn up a plan that is working towards bringing my family into the establishment within 4 generations, but sooner would be nice. I will likely be dead, but am making sure my kids marry wisely for the future of our trust and its ability to exert influence starting here in the city.

We can complain, or we can steer our financial future and that of our families into guiding that system themselves. You see I say them and not me because I have to accept that I will only see the build up towards that goal, and never live to see it realized. that is ok though, because starting the path means my children and family will have success.

I just do not understand people who all know exactly how the system works, how it functions to create wealth, how it can be leveraged to generate gains, and even have the FREE knowledge on exactly how to start and continue to stay successful and even have access to actual GRANT money to start from nothing if you currently have nothing, but very few actually pursue it.

Maybe too many people just go mad because all they can see the big picture, when I just focus on a small sliver of a corner of that picture and begin from there. Well I did begin there, and now its growing. Trumps father did the same. That gave him the opportunity to enter the system and begin sprouting the seeds of his family influence. And I shall do the same!

a reply to: reldra

Don't be frustrated, Reldra. Al Gore invented the internet to reflect most-discussed topics. Even if they aren't based on fact. People "Google" Hillary and what do you see? All the negatives...true or not. This is what a lot of folks use to decide who they are/are not voting for. These threads shape public opinion.


Keep posting in the threads that match your agenda, and you're helping to form the opinions of voters who only visit websites that are in the top search engine results... assuming that those threads are active enough, of course.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Most people focus on their children, but you can put your family in the .1% with sound investments if you focus on them getting the wealth during the lives of your grandchildren or great grandchildren. Of course, that also means trusting that no one screws it up over time. As a whole though, our society would be much wealthier if we focused on multi generational wealth like this, not just for inheritances but for public investments and such too. No one wants to do it though.

Benjamin Franklin figured all this out centuries ago with his Philadelphia Fund (not sure if that's what he calls it, but the Philadelphia Foundation administers it now), and when he figured it out he still got the idea from a book that was published centuries before he lived.

a reply to: Aazadan

It is the oldest, and in fact the original method for maintaining rule or influence with the rulers of man since the beginning. Make sure your family maintains that status from within, and not only will they be successful, but also in a position to carry out the missions of the trust that has been left to the descendants which can include the influence to make positive change in the community, or the "kingdom" if they do really well.

originally posted by: reldra
This thread obviously has no focus. It is on 73 flags and 13 pages and based on a made up blog.

I can see the blog writer is a HARDCORE Sanders fan. He picked a holiday weekend day to put that blog up in HuffPo 'contributors'. A good plan, if you want to put up a fake article with no sources and let it get screen shotted before anyone noticed. I applaud his thought process in order to be fairly successful in his plan.

But really, people HERE fall for it hook, line and sinker. That is sad.

We demand a certain level of sources in most of our threads..but this one got away with NONE?

Thank you for contributing to the discussion.

I would hope that all threads meet your level of scrutiny.

While we wait to see what happens, you may be interested to find that Frank H. has had many people reach out to him. Check out his twitter feed.



EDIT - Link here. twitter.com...

a reply to: BIGPoJo

hi my name is Liam5001 i am into politics but one thing huff doe's not realize he is looking to blame a senator that could one day be leading America in the white house and she has so good prospect's and someone that has been through a lot with bill the saxophone playing i play clarinet myself but it's only my second clarinet instrument. also i beleave there are law's huff is braking bringing this out in the open and i have herd they have new pardon law's on the book's and if huff want's something to say he should talk to Hilary face to face over a cup of tea and also i would like to see Hilary in office like her ex husband because of the interview's i have seen i think she could help take away internet lag of gaming servers and home land security company's like the TV series 24 with Keefer Sutherland. also if i remember my history about Mr Sutherland he played a gang member and a doctor in to of his film's and he took chance to get the perfect line just like Hillary as a somebody that support troop's over sea's also i don't think she is a a remarkable women but i don't live in her state but my father once had duel sidasinship and me and my brother lost hour American green id card when we were kid's that we had. anyway i beleave like star trek everyone is inasaint till proven guilty. also i feel that Hilary should be given choice if she want's to resign to avoid investigation or if she want's to stay in power and take her chance's and go before the sen-it and defend her posting in office she trained four that her bisnus and huff must realize what can of worm's he's opening. also Hilary and huff could go on TV on sea span and do a debate on the radio or live TV as a suggestion so the can get this in the open so they can be on the same page instead of the court's getting in the way in the government law in America.

sincerely me someone want's make a good introduction to Ats above top secret.