Oklahoma lawmakers have passed a bill that makes performing an abortion a felony.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: mOjOm
Get ready to see women going to prison for miscarriages or other problems resulting in a failed birth as well.

No only the doctor would be charged with a felony and lose the license to practice.

Not if trump gets elected.

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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: mOjOm

Maybe the state can violate another federal law and legalize pot to pay for it.

I'm pro choice but you do make a good point. Some federal laws can be broken and the Fed's look the other way and then others get broken and all hell breaks loose.
Like I said I don't think there should be any laws regarding reproduction. My body my choice.

a reply to: neo96

Laci was days away from giving birth to a full term infant when he murdered her. At that point Connor could have lived outside his mother.

a reply to: dawnstar

Your first link simply goes to a comment with no link, thus no back-up. The second story states that there are conflicting accounts as to what happened, and doesn't give all of the facts.

Thus far, there is no proof of your claim.

a reply to: Sillyolme

The moment that you engage in an action that results in a new life being in your womb, that child is a individual with their own rights.

To murder that unborn child is one of the most evil things that a woman can do.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes


messed up on the link sorry,

here's one for Tamesha Means...

www.aclu.org...

what is my claim again?? what was yours??
oh ya, you claim that the heartbeat has already stopped when a miscarriage occurs...
these are two instances when that was not what happened.

Tamesha's water broke, that is the beginning of a miscarriage..

Praveen Halappanavar repeated his claim that a doctor, named at the inquest in Galway as Dr Katherine Astbury, told him that a termination could not be performed because "this is a Catholic country".

His 31-year-old wife, Savita, died at University College hospital in Galway on 28 October last year, eight days after being admitted. She had been 17 weeks pregnant. Her case has become the focus of international debate and protests over Ireland's strict laws on abortion.

Halappanavar told the inquest that he and his wife had been sent home from the hospital on Sunday 21 October, but returned a couple of hours later because she was in severe pain. He was later told that his wife was miscarrying.

www.theguardian.com...

again, miscarrying, heart still beating.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Sillyolme

The moment that you engage in an action that results in a new life being in your womb, that child is a individual with their own rights.

To murder that unborn child is one of the most evil things that a woman can do.

While I totally and completely understand both sides of the argument, and believe there are points on both sides...I agree with you but with some modifications.

We are living in a society where sex is a trinket instead of something special. It is toyed with, given away without emotion, sold and in a way...devalued. Children are sexualized and many communities think that is acceptable. We also live in a time when liberal mentalities demand that everyone should be able to do anything they want. We are dealing with gender complications, people willing to mutilate their bodies due to what I would call a mental illness.

Abortion should be legal in a sane world, but only for extreme reasons. But in a sane world, people wouldn't be getting pregnant "by mistake" as often. When a woman uses abortion as birth control...that shouldn't be legal. But then again...I wouldn't want such an ignorant woman having a child either.

We are living in tough times for what is right. And while it can be fixed, it requires fixing a lot of other things too. Including the value we place on life in general, the value we place on morals, values and respect. If we continue going where society seems to be going, we have a lot more to worry about than abortion. We will have to deal with becoming something even more disgusting and distasteful than what we are today...if you can imagine that.

a reply to: dawnstar

The six-man, five-woman jury agreed that Ms. Halappanavar, 31, died from “medical misadventure” involving the failure of the hospital’s staff to identify, document or address her development of blood poisoning. Ms. Halappanavar’s husband, Praveen, said the hospital staff refused to give his wife an abortion even though her fetus had no chance of survival, citing the country’s Roman Catholic social policies against abortions.

The staff waited three days until the 17-week-old fetus had died. By then Ms. Halappanavar was in an advanced state of septicemia, and she died four days later.

The six-man, five-woman jury ruled that Ms. Halappanavar, who was a dentist, died from “medical misadventure,” meaning incompetence in her care.

At the conclusion of his fact-finding inquiry, the Galway coroner, Dr. Ciaran MacLoughlin, praised Mr. Halappanavar for his courage in protesting publicly against his wife’s medical care at the hospital, where doctors had refused to perform a termination while the fetus had a heartbeat.

Outside the courtroom, Mr. Halappanavar said legal action would continue to try to hold particular staff members responsible for his wife’s death. He said the hospital’s inaction for several days while his wife’s health deteriorated during a drawn-out, painful miscarriage meant she might as well have stayed at home.

www.nytimes.com...

get that??

He said the hospital’s inaction for several days while his wife’s health deteriorated during a drawn-out, painful miscarriage meant she might as well have stayed at home.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: defiythelie

As opposed to the Democrats -

Is that all you got, a meme? Not even a factual one at that. I guess that was to be expected from some here.

a reply to: defiythelie

Ummm...I'd love to hear what about that meme isn't accurate about the left. It seems 100% perfect, accurate and truthful to me. So please...tell me what is wrong.

originally posted by: defiythelie

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
why is it republicans are always yammering on about smaller government, then they pass laws like this ?

I wonder this myself. They go on and on about small government, freedom and states rights. But then almost all their policies/laws they try to pass are bans, restrictions and government getting very personally involved into ones life.

In my opinion...you are completely wrong. First...in this case...they were idiots. I'm Pro-Choice and will always be. But the Republicans spend most of their time trying to keep the laws the way they are currently and having them enforced. It is the Democrats that are always trying to change or introduce new laws that change existing ones.

In short...if all Dems vanished, we wouldn't need the Reps to protect our laws.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

WTF are you talking about. RNC doesn't pass new laws, huh??? They just fight back against the Dems.

Your bias is off the charts to the point of being comical.

a reply to: mOjOm

Lets see...what new laws has the House put through. The big ones have included Obamacare, gay marriage, overtime pay, etc. As far as I know, those all came from the left. What has the House shoved up the American people recently? I'm listening.

From what I see, they are far too busy protecting the Constitution, gun rights, legal voting rights (ie. show ID), the border, not sharing bathrooms with those of the opposite sex, ummmm, sanctuary cities, what else...

Patiently waiting...

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Wow, and with a Democrat for President. Who would have thought???

Don't make any attempt to see any laws passed during a Republican Presidency or anything.

Besides that, since 2014 the Republicans have had the majority in both the house and senate. So wouldn't that mean it was actually them who were passing these laws technically.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Patiently waiting...

Yeah, I can see you're very patient. So patient you had to post about it as if any of us care.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Wow, and with a Democrat for President. Who would have thought???

Don't make any attempt to see any laws passed during a Republican Presidency or anything.

Besides that, since 2014 the Republicans have had the majority in both the house and senate. So wouldn't that mean it was actually them who were passing these laws technically.

Yet again...just like in that other thread, you have refused to answer my question. Most likely because you can't. So I'll ask again. I stated that all the Reps have done is try to maintain and execute our existing laws while the Dems try to change the laws and avoid executing them. I asked you to tell me what laws the Reps have shoved up the rear-end of America.

And here I still sit...waiting for you to tell me something. But again...just like that last thread...you seem unable to back up your claim.

This is getting old. Are you going to give me something or not?

I've waited long enough and really don't feel like playing these childish games. You can't back up your claim...you're therefore wrong and yet again...I won. See you next time friend.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Well, maybe you missed it the first time or just didn't understand it since it wasn't spelled out for you in crayon. But since 2014 the Republicans have had the majority so other than executive orders any laws passed from the time they had majority until now would in fact be laws that they, the republicans, have passed. If you want a specific law I suggest you go look one up passed any time within the last couple years while they've held the majority.