Oklahoma lawmakers have passed a bill that makes performing an abortion a felony.

Yall remember this guy ?

Finally on this day in 2004, after seven days of deliberation that involved the replacement of two jurors, Scott Peterson was convicted of the first-degree murder of his wife and the second-degree murder of his unborn son. He was unemotional during the reading of the verdict, which was greeted with cheers and celebration by Laci’s friends in the audience and the hundreds of supporters waiting outside the courthouse.

www.history.com...

Sounds like OK is being consistent.

Unlike others crying about it.

a reply to: neo96

so, if the law had gone through and a women died because she was denied an abortion (to protect the non-viable fetus that was being miscarried) wouldn't that death also be a homicide?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: neo96

so, if the law had gone through and a women died because she was denied an abortion (to protect the non-viable fetus that was being miscarried) wouldn't that death also be a homicide?

Regarding ABORTION.

Someone ALWAYS dies.

a reply to: neo96

we talking about miscarriages here, the fetus is gonna die anyways, but this law would have limited the doctor to doing just about nothing but sitting around waiting for the heartbeat to stop before removing the fetus. by the time that happens, a number of things could occur that would risk the mother's life.
so, since the stupid state law forced him to sit on his arse and deny what is considered to be the best procedure for the situation, wouldn't the state be guilty of medical negligence, which is also a form of homicide.

a reply to: neo96

It is a per state issue from what I read. There are 38 states that have fetal homicide laws and each state is different in definitions. Like abortion.

Oklaho ma governor vetoes controversial bill to criminalize abortion

OKLAHOMA CITY, May 20 (UPI) -- In a move that came as a surprise to many, Republican Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin on Friday rejected a bill that tried to make performing abortions in the state a felony offense, punishable by as many as three years in prison.

Bill 1552 was passed by the state senate Thursday and the House last month. The proposed law sought to punish and strip the licenses of physicians convicted of terminating pregnancies, except in cases that threaten the life of the mother.

Fallin, who calls herself the "most pro-life governor in the nation," was expected by many to approve the bill, making her veto a substantial surprise.

"The bill is so ambiguous and so vague that doctors cannot be certain what medical circumstances would be considered 'necessary to preserve the life of the mother,'" Fallin said in a statement Friday. "The absence of any definition, analysis or medical standard renders this exception vague, indefinite and vulnerable to subjective interpretation and application."

Opponents of the bill said it was in direct conflict with the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark 1973 ruling, Roe v. Wade, that made abortion legal.

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a reply to: Xcathdra


Yes, but "they" are not gonna let it go that easy.

Waiting for what they pull next.

a reply to: Annee

They had an interesting legal argument for the law. It dealt with professional medical standards, which are established by the state. That legal argument has never been used before so it would make its way through the courts.

Also just to clarify for others -

The legislature can pass all the legislation it wants but it only becomes law if the Governor signs it (or via veto override).

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Annee

They had an interesting legal argument for the law. It dealt with professional medical standards, which are established by the state. That legal argument has never been used before so it would make its way through the courts.

Sneaky.

Can't override Roe vs Wade, so stop the docs.

If this bill is fact (not able to read the thread fully at the moment) then its yet another attack and attempt to remove freedom of choice and democracy by the would be Radical Muslim that Obama really is. It seems this man is set upon destroying as much of natural life choices as possible before he goes hoping to hand the reigns over to Hillary who is anyone's POTUS depending on the cash and power involved.

I wonder how long it will be before its law to have unborn DNA altered to fit in line with some agenda..

a reply to: Annee

Actually yes they could, as a worst case scenario. Just because the Supreme Court ruling establishes something as law does not mean it cannot be revisited based on new legal theory. It also means a new legal argument could result in changes to the existing ruling, expanding it, reinforcing the original ruling or applying restrictions that were not in place to begin with.

Part of the function of the high court is to consider modern ideals as the mindset in 1776 may not be the mindset in 2076.

Without that flexibility the Constitution becomes nothing more than a suicide pact.

a reply to: Mclaneinc

Well its not law and it originated from Oklahoma and not Obama.

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
why is it republicans are always yammering on about smaller government, then they pass laws like this ?

I wonder this myself. They go on and on about small government, freedom and states rights. But then almost all their policies/laws they try to pass are bans, restrictions and government getting very peronally involved into ones life.

a reply to: defiythelie

As opposed to the Democrats -

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: shooterbrody

THANK YOU OKLAHOMA!! ABOUT DAMN TIME!!

About time for what? Another Republican run state to waste even more money in the courts? This will 100% get struck down in the higher courts and will strengthen roe vs Wade even more.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Mclaneinc

Well its not law and it originated from Oklahoma and not Obama.

I think that was posted because the Mandela Effect points to a timeline with a state called Obamahoma.

And in this thread ATS members argue about abortion. You're really getting somewhere!

Oh and it was vetoed. Another tremendous waste of time. Well done.

originally posted by: Kapusta
Life , Let it live .

what if the girl got raped and has daily trauma? but you dont care about silly things like that.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: olaru12

Isn't Trump pro choice?

Is today Tuesday or Saturday? Sometimes he's pro choice, sometimes he's pro life, sometimes he thinks the mother's who get abortions should be punished in some form. Just depends on when you ask him.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

No laws that legislate a uterus should be necessary. My womb my say.