Texas GOP Adopts Platform to Stop Abortion and End LGBT Rights

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: olaru12

Two words -

Go, Texas!

Seriously, one of the best things I've heard about the state in ages. Starting to look more like the Texas I knew growing up. Maybe I'll move back.....

Miss the jim crow laws huh? This is once again Texan GOPs thinking they are better than anyone else yet again.
Why were at it texas re segregate the bathrooms,and remove womens rights to vote too. Oh and toss out them Indians that still live there. And the Legal mexicans too. they arent True texans right?

Not even close. Immorality has nothing to do with race. Claiming otherwise is flat out ridiculous.

Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government?

I kinda like the part where they said this:

Repeal Freedom Act- We support the repeal of the Freedom Act. Spying on law-abiding Americans must stop immediately. We support court-ordered warrants on an individual basis in cases directly involving national security.

Abolish National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)- The Republican Party of Texas opposes the indefinite detention of United States citizens without due process. We urge our government to terminate detention without due process, including, but not limited to, any military enforcement of federal law within the State of Texas, under NDAA Sections 1021 and 1022.

Emergency War Powers and Martial Law Declarations- We support the repeal of the War Powers Act and an end to our declared state of emergency. Any declaration of martial law should be approved by Congress.

Elimination of Executive Orders- We oppose the unconstitutional use of executive orders. All orders lacking Congressional approval become null and void after four months.

I'm guessing not too many posters read the above link before they chimmed in...

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: olaru12

Two words -

Go, Texas!

Seriously, one of the best things I've heard about the state in ages. Starting to look more like the Texas I knew growing up. Maybe I'll move back.....

Miss the jim crow laws huh? This is once again Texan GOPs thinking they are better than anyone else yet again.
Why were at it texas re segregate the bathrooms,and remove womens rights to vote too. Oh and toss out them Indians that still live there. And the Legal mexicans too. they arent True texans right?

Not even close. Immorality has nothing to do with race. Claiming otherwise is flat out ridiculous.

Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government?

Your view of immorality is different than anothers. The states HAVE TO ABIDE BY CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. Discriminating against anyone for anything is against that document.

ALso According to statistics a transgender has never assaulted anyone in a bathroom or shower as of yet.

now plenty of MEN have raped other men and also women in restrooms of course. And here is where the issue is coming from. Your people are thinking of a masculine male in womens clothes. Thats not a transgender.

Of course Texas is lumping everyone together because its easier to hate them all. anyway point being almost all transgenders HATE showing their sex to others. WHy? because of this kind of reaction and the risk of death for doing so. Its why we avoid gym,we avoid anywhere we have to undress in front of others period.

SO dont tell me its to protect anyone except the people who claim to be christians but act anything but. Heres a thought If this was a abomination to God do you think he would had allowwed scientist to create treatments for it? oh but free will..... yeah God created everything and it was good correct?

Theocracies in the form of states. Whats next witch burnings again? seriously. Research proves its not a choice but its too inconvenient a truth for the evangelicals to believe. I am glad I am not a texan. such a prideful place full of hypocritical BS.(no offense to some of you who live there. we cant all choose where we live)

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government? Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government?

Wouldn't the curbing and outright stripping of personal rights and protections be considered totalitarian? Hmmmmmm....

a reply to: maria_stardust

Now, I'm really sure you didn't read the source document linked previously:

Repeal Freedom Act- We support the repeal of the Freedom Act. Spying on law-abiding Americans must stop immediately. We support court-ordered warrants on an individual basis in cases directly involving national security.

Maybe you should.

We can post knee jerk reactions in response to an OP sourcing a newspaper, or we can read the source doc itself and talk about what was REALLY said on these issues.

a reply to: quercusrex

I actually did.

But the entire platform is a mixed bag, not the single snippet you've been kind enough to post. Therein, lies the difference.

a reply to: maria_stardust

My "snippets" don't seem very totalitarian. They were examples of how terms get spun out of control vs how states self govern.

a reply to: quercusrex

I never claimed they were, nor was the original post aimed at you.

Clever attempt at taking things out of context.

a reply to: yuppa

It isn't discrimination to have someone use the bathroom that fits the person's anatomy. Males one way and females another, same for all.

You state that yu wouldn't want to use a certain restroom out of fear of assault. So, what about women who have been assaulted, that don't want a biological male in their bathroom or locker room? Do their feelings matter less? There are a lot more of them.

Laws that allow such bathroom use would allow any male to claim he fit that category, to gain access, and THAT is the big issue here. A law like this enables predators.

You can claim that there are laws against them already, but there are laws against beating up the transsexual in the mens' room already, too.

So, this isn't needed. Common sense is needed. Common sense means using the bathroom that matches the plumbing. It's ot complicated, and it doesn't discriminate.

We don't get to change things to suit ideas in out heads. Surely you can see how that could be abused.

originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government? Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government?

Wouldn't the curbing and outright stripping of personal rights and protections be considered totalitarian? Hmmmmmm....

Rape victims have a right to use a ladies' room without fearing the biological male who decides to go in one day, claiming he "feels like" a woman.

a reply to: olaru12

You know just reading that title I realized something.

We shouldn't be using the term "Gay Rights, LGBT Rights, etc." since we are supposed to literally have the same Rights and on Equal Terms and Equally Protected by Law from anything working toward denying us those Rights.

Unless you can identify and show some special Right that anyone gets while others don't, then the only Rights that are being talked about are Equal Rights, Civil Rights, Constitutional Rights, etc. Which ever you prefer to call it.

Saying "Gay Rights or Women's Rights or Men's Rights" just creates the very first division of people from being viewed equally just by saying it that way. It sets whatever group it is apart from everyone else from the start. It sets up any discussion with a sense of bias on just the language of the topic alone.

Directly rom page 11 of the "Platform"

Homosexuality- Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable alternative lifestyle, in public policy, nor should family be redefined to include homosexual couples. We oppose the granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Absolutely incredible. If that isn't proof that the GOP wants to build a theocracy, I don't know what is.

a reply to: yuppa

Did you read the whole platform, or just the amateurish liberal article?

Texas and her people are a beautiful place (I am a libertarian and moved here with my family by choice about 4 years ago). Keep proposing liberal stereotypes about people here, meanwhile we will continue to enjoy a robust economy that is great for business and a pride in actually standing up for state sovereignty.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government? Texas has a right, as a state, to decide for themselves, as does every other state. Why the defense of totalitarian laws, from an overgrown federal government?

Wouldn't the curbing and outright stripping of personal rights and protections be considered totalitarian? Hmmmmmm....

Rape victims have a right to use a ladies' room without fearing the biological male who decides to go in one day, claiming he "feels like" a woman.

You really, really, don't know a thing about this, do you? Other than the same discredited talking points trotted about by the GOP? Can I ask something? Why do you hate so much? Is it because you don't understand it?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

And they are surprised why the normal GOP religious loons like Ted Cruz ect didn’t stand a chance?

Hell they wonder why the USA is sliding down hill!

While everyone obsessing of stupid arse issues like bathrooms, important issues like JOBS AND THE FREAKING ECONOMY are being ignored!

Don’t like trump, not one bit but can 100% see why Trump has gained so much support as he seems to be the only candidate to be addressing important issues like the economy and illegal immigration. Might not 100% or even 25% agree on the way he wants to address them but at least he KNOWS there are problems that need addressing.

Who gives a # if gays can marry or what genitals are in someone’s pants when the USA economy is on a cliff edge?

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Immorality has nothing to do with race.

The government should not be there to regulate morality

It only job should be to provide safety and a prosperous stable economy.

Two jobs the US government seems to have failed dismally at since 2001.

Forget the destruction of the middles class
Forget the devaluing of the dollar
Forget the deficit spending
Forget the traitorous trade deals with China
Forget the wars that have made the US more unsafe.
Forget the collapse of the USA border
Forget city’s that have turned into warzones


No Instead concentrate hating those gays and focusing on what gentiles are in peoples pants.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

And they are surprised why the normal GOP religious loons like Ted Cruz ect didn’t stand a chance?

Hell they wonder why the USA is sliding down hill!

While everyone obsessing of stupid arse issues like bathrooms, important issues like JOBS AND THE FREAKING ECONOMY are being ignored!

Don’t like trump, not one bit but can 100% see why Trump has gained so much support as he seems to be the only candidate to be addressing important issues like the economy and illegal immigration. Might not 100% or even 25% agree on the way he wants to address them but at least he KNOWS there are problems that need addressing.

Who gives a # if gays can marry or what genitals are in someone’s pants when the USA economy is on a cliff edge?

That's what baffles me about the GOP at the moment. Their economic platform seems to consist of tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires (*cough cough Kansas cough cough*), repealing Obamacare without actually replacing it and... that's it. So they try and do the old smoke and mirrors "We're running on MORALITY!!!" trick by doing things like HB2 and try and roll it out all over the place, including Texas. Only with added hate and religious bile.

originally posted by: SonOfThor
a reply to: yuppa

Did you read the whole platform, or just the amateurish liberal article?

Texas and her people are a beautiful place (I am a libertarian and moved here with my family by choice about 4 years ago). Keep proposing liberal stereotypes about people here, meanwhile we will continue to enjoy a robust economy that is great for business and a pride in actually standing up for state sovereignty.

Is this an example of the "liberal stereotypes" you're talking about?

Homosexuality- Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable alternative lifestyle, in public policy, nor should family be redefined to include homosexual couples. We oppose the granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.

What kind of libertarian trades one statist master for another one?

a reply to: olaru12

This sounds like a joke