Given the opportunity would you join illuminati?

a reply to: schuyler

What is your definition of en-lighten-ment? What are you really seeking and what tools do they know that you cannot find yourself thru seeking within?

Be specific in what they can offer.

To illustrate, the movie snowpiercer has a character - a lower class man who is offered a position among the illuminati like wealthy elites... in exchange for his services as a violinist.
Thats the best comparison I could use to illustrate the op.

a reply to: clevargenuis

If its supposed good was true, sure. Not for the life style. I would probably live like I do with better things is all. Working class elite, lol. EDIT: (I see you just wrote such above).

I wouldnt mind being a muse for a bible writing. My version would be out of this world.

Also, resources to do good?.....

originally posted by: clevargenuis

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Where does one apply for a job with the illuminate? I have read on here that they run everything from government to weather patterns and are also hooked up with famous musicians. Sounds pretty cool to me.

youtube.com...

Pretty funny.

I liked the part where he said "when institutions need more money they go to our BOYS to get a loan".

You know.. I actually might join. Perhaps for no other reason than to show that their use of resources could be so much more effective. They seem to be trapped in the same cultural story that they use to control. Yet, due to social insulation, have bought into the illusion they are immune.

Its fascinating in that sense. Some options likely seem counter-intuitive, yet would lead to a more effective satiation of greed through massive improvements to quality of life.

The common myopic view of currency directly improving life quality skips over the items of actual value that do contribute. Perhaps not an issue at its core, but in the ensuing actions that focus on currency, it actually ends up impeding the introduction of items/methods of real world value in favor of the middleman (money).

This ends up limiting themselves as much as anyone else, in a paradigm where currency becomes prioritized and valued more than the products/services which are purchased.

originally posted by: clevargenuis

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: clevargenuis
accordong to wikis article on the "firm" that schyler brought up, Tom Cruises character is showered with perks, a nice house and a car upon joining them, of course it also involves loyalty.

Well duh, thats pretty much the stipulation i mentioned in the op. Category B serves illuminati in exchange for a good life.

I also suggested this was an artificial distinction to make, that there is a "good" Illuminati and a "bad" Illuminati

lmao everybody else who posted here understood which illuminati I was talking about. maybe I shoulda spelled it out for you.

And I'm laughing at you, too, because you simply do not have a clue and your attitude betrays that you don't live up to your moniker here. There are NOT "two" Illuminatis and everyone else here understands THAT. You are NOT LISTENING! Joining the Illuminati to achieve wealth is like converting to Christianity because you think they pay better. You are completely misunderstanding the purpose of the Illuminati and seem fixated on this idea that you get magically transported from your "Category B" to wealth and fame in "Category A" just by joining, whether this is hypothetical or not.

This is COMPLETELY naive on your part, and it's not going to happen. The REAL Illuminati do not control the world like some secret Mafia and organized crime. They are not part of the "New World Order," the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, or Bohemian Grove. They don't communicate with aliens or plan the destruction of humanity so that only the elites remain. They are not in collusion with the Reptilians. And they CERTAINLY don't employ people like you and offer a fat paycheck in return for your "services," particularly since you have nothing relevant to offer. You have neither the skills nor the insight to be useful.

You have simply made up your idea of what the Illuminati is, then suggested you have a grasp on its reality. But your conception of the Illuminati is completely 100% in your head and nowhere else. It does not reflect reality. If you think THAT is going to get you into "Category A" you are completely delusional. And with an attitude like yours you're going to be in "Category B" forever.

a reply to: schuyler

Ok, you have been stuck missing the meat of the point for the past few pages; instead of that name word pretend there *is* a powerful wealthy group of individuals who potentially are not absolutely saintly, as a thought experiment; sheesh... You are born type B, would you join?

YES !!!!

sitting around a pub in Bavaria in 1776 talking about freedom, teaching people to become happy by being good, and freeing them from superstition and prejudice

sounds wonderful actually

originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: schuyler

Ok, you have been stuck missing the meat of the point for the past few pages; instead of that name word pretend there *is* a powerful wealthy group of individuals who potentially are not absolutely saintly, as a thought experiment; sheesh... You are born type B, would you join?

And I'm suggesting it is you who are missing the point. I'm not playing a science fiction what-if mythical game here. It's useless if you don't have some grasp on reality. Otherwise we are faced with hypotheticals such as, "If you saw a pink dragon breathing fire would you go into his cave?" Excuse me for thinking that is a silly game to play, And if that's the level at which you want to indulge yourself and OP it's not worth exerting the effort. You are perverting the discussion into a make-believe mythological world.

The Illuminati is a real organization--of sorts, though not necessarily incorporated as an official LLC. It has goals and aspirations and has largely been vilified on places like ATS. OP (and you) have set up a Straw Man argument here by defining it as some sort of organization of evil intent and suggesting everyone join in a simplistic Faustian bargain about it. As far as I'm concerned that is tantamount to playing with Barbie Dolls, and if that's really the intent here it's not worth wasting the time on it.

Dealing with those sort of people was the ultimate demise of a family member that was near and dear to me. Had that person continued to live past that moment that side of the family would have been very wealthy by today. Hell what money was left over two decades after their loss was still a pretty substantial inheritance. Life in that circle may seem all shiny and glorious especially when you come from nothing but know this when that day comes that they ask of you something that goes against your grain there is no saying no lest you cease to exist in this plane.

What I find amusing is that the most "illuminated ones" are not the wealthiest or most elite people on planet Earth.

You don't have to be wealthy to understand the true nature of reality and the secrets of the universe. I'm certainly not.

Yet, they (Illuminati) still resist my offers. *shrug*

Their loss. I guess greed is really what they serve.

I would never join a evil and corrupt organisation like that. NEVER! And everybody that said they would is an emberrasment to real conspiracy theorists all over the world!

originally posted by: Annunak1
I would never join a evil and corrupt organisation like that. NEVER! And everybody that said they would is an emberrasment to real conspiracy theorists all over the world!

maybe you wouldnt.. but plenty of B category people (as mentioned in the op) would.

Where do I sign up? I hear they have a rather impressive salad bar.

"I wouldn't join any club that would allow Me as a member..." Groucho Marx, no relation to Karl.

a reply to: clevargenuis

I actually hit up IllumiCorp before to see if that non sense is real. Well..its real alright, straight out of Hollywood.

You can apply here ...

www.illuminatiofficial.org...

a reply to: LittleByLittle

I agree with you on that point where enlightenment and knowledge are the focus - not material gain & power. I believe it is the duty of those who are enlightened, to teach & guide those who are ignorant - not to manipulate the ignorant in the quest for power and wealth - for they are base human desires. I would think that true enlightenment would transcend these desires and seek to raise humankind to a higher level where all may have the chance to prosper.

a reply to: clevargenuis

I would have to read the fine print, and maybe do a little negotiating on the do's and don'ts of what they want from me. Upon weighing the severity of my current life, with the gains I would receive and the expectations for my service I would come to a decisions afterwards.

Not that I would be plotting on how to make a mess from within or anything

a reply to: clevargenuis

Duh??!! Of course I can't even get a job, my every move consists of me needing help (I'm not on welfare) and money from others. I have a good life, but would love the chance to make some cash of my own. Oh and being famous seems so fun! sign me up