The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

a reply to: raymundoko

Ray, the serpent in Eden is not Satan. The bible very clearly refers to the serpent as a wild animal created by god in the garden. There is no real mention of satan in the old testament, not in the context of the devil. The word actually originates from the meaning " one who opposes" and is used in this context in the OT. I was referring to the story of the origin of Satan, and how he became the "devil" of Christianity. Even in the book of Enoch, there is no mention of Satan being any kind of leader of the angles. That stuff all comes from that epic poem Paradise Lost. That's where the modern idea of the devil comes from. That's where the horn and tail idea comes from. It's where the rebellion story comes from and it's not scripture, it was completely made up, yet many people believe it to be true.

a reply to: Barcs

Interesting. Thanks for the information. For whatever reason I thought the snake was Satan.

a reply to: TombEscaper

nice thread op just found it. ill post some examples later if this thread is not dead yet

Read all the pages. an intriguing affair indeed, akin to the tower of babel, only this time its confounding of brains

I was just doing some checking...

Allegedly we are told what's going to happen before it happens in our movies etc.

Whether or not this happened, i can't say as i don't know when the "change" allegedly took place vs the airing of the show.

Fringe Over There

So check the link and see if that corresponds to the ME we're witnessing or not...

Also check out Doctor Who the three part episode of season 12 dealing with "the monks", as this ties into the mind hacking regarding "what's always been ". With only the Doctor, Billie, and Nardole remembering the truth.

a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

Fringe has certainly got similar overtones as the ME

www.lifecoachcode.com...

13 year old genius says the Mandela Effect is due to Cern and thinks we're in a parallel universe.
Pretty heady stuff.

a reply to: whitewave

It's a good video, I've seen it brought up in other threads about the experience.Cool too, getting a younger perspective on the whole thing.

Thank-you TombEscaper and everyone posting in this thread.I never had thought about the ME until more recently, and having read this thread I feel brought up to speed on the topic.Many great contributions.

a reply to: dffrntkndfnml
I think every1 can add comments to this thread, should they come across any new effects so that this thread stays alive all the time

a reply to: Hyperboles

I think that would be a good idea.

I started looking into the effect more seriously this May. I just finished reading this thread a few days ago.

Some of the biblical ones reported bother me a little. I wish I would of gone more Book of Eli, with my studies. I've read the bible frequently over time, I guess it hurts a little inside to question that. No matter, I've questioned my intuition enough before to trust it.

The YouTube video brought up earlier with the passport to CERN bugged me more though. Perhaps the author sense of humour was lost on me, but seeing how it was put together I got the distinct impression that it was designed to shut down talk about the kinds of memories that have been reported.

After seeing that, and taking into account some of the other artistic stuff coming out of CERN, I feel a deeper sense of sympathy for those who are suspicious of what's going on there.

On the false memory front, imo the advancement of storage and communication comes into play. Looking back at the image posted of C3PO posted on a cover and the resolution of images we have now does suggest it may have been easy to miss.I guess I'm drawing connections between low definition and high definition monitors, and it's similarity to what could be going on with these experiences. The HDing of data.

Much of the thread was spent debating if effects were real or not, but it kind of distracts from the subjective nature of the experience. Those who experience this effect frequently have mentioned synchronocity of clocks for example.

This suggests to me that these individuals have share deep connections with the world around around them but it's hard for others to see that. In my own life, synchronicity has usually been for the better. I tend to use the clock ones to help measure how far in the "zone" I am or the groove so to speak. This is usually a good thing, if i'm feeling stressed I'll ground out too.

I tend to go with my first impressions, in my opinion Timewave Zero, and increased energies effecting our solar system are the most probable causes. The subjective nature of the changes seems so varied, discerning a pattern is challenging at best.

There's also the possibility of group trying to leverage this phenomena negatively for various goals. I'm confident if that's the case they will fail.

I'm grateful for this thread, it gives me a better idea of what to look out for moving forward...

a reply to: dffrntkndfnml

well said. although there have been disruptive members on this thread that continually phoo phoo this effect. i know better having been a sailor and a pilot. lot has changed about the geography of the world. it is difficult to reject practical proof about geography or anatomy changes

some examples, newzealand is wrongly placed, korea never shared a border with russia. mongolia was much smaller.
South america has moved east so has australia moved north to become a part of southeast asia

a reply to: Hyperboles

Thanks. It can be a little hard on the eyes, reading over some of the responses from skeptics.I often give it the benefit of the doubt.

The more individuals paying attention to the details of the world around us, the better. If there's really something more to this, hopefully it'll make it easier for everyone to work together. Also, realizing the fallibility of my own memory in the light of how I perceive my environment, was less scary then seeing someone else go through that.

I haven't been much into geography. On that note, I remember South America being further west. I tend to chalk it up to different mapping projections.

Is it safe to assume that ME's reported will vary individually?I don't look at this as an all or nothing list to go by. I believe memory is often anchored emotionally, so people tend to spot the ME's in areas they are more familiar with.

originally posted by: [post=22532299]dffrntkndfnml

I haven't been much into geography. On that note, I remember South America being further west. I tend to chalk it up to different mapping projections.

Is it safe to assume that ME's reported will vary individually?I don't look at this as an all or nothing list to go by. I believe memory is often anchored emotionally, so people tend to spot the ME's in areas they are more familiar with.

We use projections all the time for navigation. at sea mercator takes precedence over lambert conformal conic. its vice versa for air navigation. so the changes i mentioned above also show on these projections.
as for anatomy changes, Lol, most obvious is there is no more floating knee caps

originally posted by: [post=22532299]dffrntkndfnml

I haven't been much into geography. On that note, I remember South America being further west. I tend to chalk it up to different mapping projections.

Is it safe to assume that ME's reported will vary individually?I don't look at this as an all or nothing list to go by. I believe memory is often anchored emotionally, so people tend to spot the ME's in areas they are more familiar with.

We use projections all the time for navigation. at sea mercator takes precedence over lambert conformal conic. its vice versa for air navigation. so the changes i mentioned above also show on these projections.
as for anatomy changes, Lol, most obvious is there is no more floating knee caps

i often think maybe deja vu is a symptom of variable history(s)? slight memories of another timeline or something.

a reply to:Hyperboles

On geography, I have flown over some job sites and areas I worked at & around and from the plane, the view appeared much like I expected.(This was in the last several years, may not be be relevent) It makes me wonder how obvious geographical changes would appear to people in your field. I need to learn more about what you mean by the floating kneecaps.

a reply to: RoScoLaz5

Could be, most of my deja vu feelings have been usually from memories in dream states, and more subconscious ones.I remember one time, while out I found myself in a cul de sac, and mentioned to my friend a feeling of deja vu.He told me I been there, but thought I was passed out (I often drank too much, back in the day) so he didn't think I'd remember.I think ME has more to do with dissonance between mind and intuition.

a reply to: dffrntkndfnml

Floating knee caps pertain to our anatomy. Didnt we all have knee caps b4, which when God forbid are hurt in
an accident and they slip causing excruciating pain.
Chk and see if you still have the knee caps as b4

a reply to: Hyperboles

Idk, about others knees. I don't seem to have floating knees or have any recall of having them. My understanding after looking it up on the net, is that floating knees describes knee caps that float in place. I have tendon holding it place at the top and bottom, and used to play with my caps at times. I recall sliding them side to side a bit. There are stiffer now, but I've been off work and taking it easy this summer. Long-winded, but I'd say this is as before, in my experience.

I can see comparisons between ME's as helpful to try to understand happening...

a reply to: dffrntkndfnml

same here i used to play with them too. now they have completely vanished and im always as active as b4.
there are some skeletons shown on the internet, on you tube, that show the new knees. i have the new knees now