The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

a reply to: carewemust


Do you still think they have stopped twinkling? Have you had another look?

Have you ever heard of the poem/nursery rhyme "Twinkle, twinkle, little star"? - its 19th century.

Given that we know what causes stars to twinkle - what on earth could stop them from twinkling?

AS well as the reasons mentioned above, I'd think light pollution may have an effect as well.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Hyperboles


They were twinkling away last night.

Moon was up. could see only a few and they didnt twinkle

a reply to: Hyperboles


OK. So where abouts are you and what was the weather doing?

What do you think might have "changed" so as to apparently stop them twinkling (they were twinkling last night here in Wiltshire, UK, and it was bloody freezing)?

a reply to: oldcarpy

Light breeze

a reply to: oldcarpy

Yes mate, it is freezing with a capital F.... I work outside and yesterday we all got told, "Lad's just have the day off!" because it's like standing in a meat chiller. Wasn't sure if I was going to brave the cold to go to work or not this morning until I got the phone call from a mate at 06:00 and he said and I quote "You going?" to which my only reply was "Have you looked outside?" if he think's I'm going to just pile on the warm clothes and brave the two inches of snow everywhere just to stand around at the train station to listen to the announcer telling me what I already know "that all services are cancelled due to the wrong kind of snow" on the rail tracks i'll just sit here and wait for his call, because apparently he's on his way to work and said he would update me when he arrived as to the condition's. Bloody loony and part of the barmy army if he thinks anyone but himself will be there.

Spent most of last night researching Windows 3.51 with net-boo-ee protocol, the one they phased out for TCP/IP everywhere and decided maybe there was a reason you used to be able to disable the invalid floating point operation in x86 CPU's. Newer Windows like Win-whore 10 doesn't necessarily mean best - An as it's officially abandon-ware, it means, those $899.00 packages for Server and Workstation are now officially FREE!

Bring on the Novell 3.12 and 4.11 - with Unix workstation Pathworks and Microsoft Mail and kiss all the idiots port-scanning on TCP/IP good-bye!

Win-Win... Just shake your head at them holding there Lee-Nux and say "L-user"

originally posted by: Hyperboles

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Hyperboles


They were twinkling away last night.

Moon was up. could see only a few and they didnt twinkle

Obviously light pollution was a factor if you could only see a few stars at the time. Try again on a night without a full moon where you can see lots of stars.

a reply to: micromark

Ah yes, I remember NetBEUI. Brings back memories. It was great because it was easy to set up, and was very fast for direct file transfers, while TCP was more finicky and slower for direct transfers. When I went to Network Administration school, they used to call NetBEUI the "slacker" protocol. LOL!

Could it be that it is related to this thread?
Google Patents | Nervous System Manipulation by ElectroMagnetic Fields from Monitors
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It seems they have had plenty of time to practice manipulation of feelings how about memories.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Hyperboles


OK. So where abouts are you and what was the weather doing?

What do you think might have "changed" so as to apparently stop them twinkling (they were twinkling last night here in Wiltshire, UK, and it was bloody freezing)?

There has to be some change because the atmosphere has changed and is changing. we are also losing oxygen that is leaking from the atmosphere and the magnetic field is changed and changing. It is weakening.

This is because of scintillation ("Twinkling") as the light passes through the atmosphere of the Earth. As the air moves in and out, the starlight is refracted, often different colors in different directions. Because of this "chromatic abberation," stars can appear to change colors when they are twinkling strongly.Jun 27, 2015

The Earth's atmosphere is changing. Scientific measurements have documented shifts in chemical composition throughout the lower atmosphere, as well as substantial alterations in chemical composition in the upper atmosphere. Both of these findings have important implications for terrestrial life and human societies.

www.ciesin.org...

a reply to: Sahabi


Lol i didn't even know McEntire was a spelling of McIntyre.
And the difference would only be noticed when read not heard.
For me ME is a CIA CT, to take advantage of the gullible...

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: TombEscaper

None of this is proof, whatsoever, of anything but people making mistakes. MANY people make the same grammar mistakes ("for all intensive purposes", "perrogative" instead of prerogative and so on...)

Why don't people explain these massive misunderstandings and mistakes as the "Mandela effect"?

The Mandela Effect can be denied. It's simply some percentage of people making the same, common, mistake.

I agree that it does seem that way and I'm still not convinced. It's just people not being able to remember properly or not being able to spell, or both. And the changes are always so minuscule, which in my opinion just supports this theory.

Just like the Bernstein Bears, this is a spelling error. Both versions are phonetically similar. Like "their" and "there", "whether" and "weather" etc. you see it all the time on ATS posts, Facebook posts and Tweets. It is a subtle error, but more indicative of a mistake and maybe our language changing than anything else.

The same goes with the nappies. Dropping or adding an s at the end would more likely be an error as in the case of Depend and Depends. People just make mistakes, hear wrong and and can't spell. With more keyboards and auto-correct being used, you would expect this to happen. And with products and logos being changed from time to time, like Olay and Ulay, then I'm more inclined to go with this theory.

From what I understand, google will make suggestions and autocomplete based on what people have already typed in so this is only evidence of not being able to spell. With online content being largely user generated, without any guarantee of accuracy, you will need an actual physical album to prove this - the same with the Bears. It's all online, and user generated.

originally posted by: Dogmire
a reply to: TombEscaper



I have a fairly extensive CD collection that I have stored away. I just dug through several boxes to find some Reba CDs. I found two. One CD is dated 1996 (and never opened btw). It is her "What If It's You" album. Her name is spelled Reba McEntire on it. The other CD I found is dated 2003 and it is her "Room To Breathe" album. Her name is spelled Reba McEntire on that one too. I have a friend who was a rodeo bull rider and I gave him a call. Back in the day Reba did the rodeo circuit with the likes of Chris Ladoux who passed away in 2005. I asked my friend how Reba spells her last name and he said "McEntire".
I understand the Mandela Effect but unless my CDs changed along with the matrix (which I guess it could have IF this IS all a computer simulation) I think she has always spelled it McEntire.

Dogmire

My point exactly. Why are there not two different versions? It would be very easy to change things once they are online and you have no real proof of when these were created or changed. Online pictures can be manipulated too, so they do not make very good evidence either.

BTW I have never heard of her. If you asked me how her name was spelt, I would have said McIntire or McIntyre as these are names I have encountered before and this is what I would base my assumption on. Maybe it could even be Mac too. Is she Irish or Scottish?

Also, if she had released an album as Mc with an E, that would have been a clever marketing ploy. McEntire, as in her entire collection.

originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: Dogmire

It can only mean one thing...

Some people in the McEntyre universe have spilled into the McEntire universe!!!

That's the most logical explanation for remembering the different spellings.

Except wasn't the OP about Mc I ntire and Mc E ntire?

LOL their wasn't any contention over their being a I or Y was their?

Did you see what I did there with "their just then"? I know it should really be there, but this is a very common, phonetic mistake that people make all the time.

originally posted by: ButsDuge
I'm dyslexic; I could not functional read well into my highschool years where I was retrained and learned how to cope with my disability.

I say this because all of my encounters with the Berenstein Bears (books I loved when I was a kid) where all orally derived. People would read me the books I would not read them my self.

To this day spellingwise Berenstein vs Berenstain vs Berenstin vs ... ect ect is all the same to me. This manifestation of the Medela effect is not simply a spelling mistake; my life is a spelling mistakes.

So with that all being true... unless every adult who ever read me a Berenstein Bears book (and there where many) read it wrong every time they read it ... than at least for me the Bears where always the BerenstEin family.

You make a very good point.

It would depend on whoever was reading it to you. If Berenstein and Berenstain spoken aloud are indistinguishable, then unless you see them written down you would never know.

If there is a distinction and stien does not sound the same as stain, you are relying on the person reading to know this and use the correct version.

a reply to: TombEscaper

Logos do change all the time, but there has always been a line in the VW one:
HIstory of VW Logo

However, whilst googling images the line did seem to disappear!

a reply to: Indigent

That's called denial not the Mandela effect

originally posted by: humanityrising
It's interesting to entertain and I'm not opposed to the concept at all. That being said...I'm going to need a bit more than suspicions by people only on the periphery of these things;

i.e. Is there anyone from Reba's fan club, or who worked at Depend(s?), or who spent some time editing/publishing the bear books that is ion board with all this? Those are the people who would know. And if they say we're wrong, we probably are.

Now if all of a sudden Romald Reagan's name is spelled Ronald Reegan, or baseball became bassball, or Prince's tombstone reads 'Here Lies Prints', you've peaked my interest.

That's Ronald not Romald and piqued not peaked. Wasn't being picky (I'm just as bad) but pointing out that people type and speak incorrectly all the time.

If you told me Jimmy Carter or Walter Mondale were presidents when I remember Reagan being president, then this would pique my interest.

originally posted by: wesleyapril

originally posted by: GoShredAK

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: jacygirl
a reply to: Chadwickus

My partner and I have a shared memory from last year, regarding Andrew Zimmerman.

Andrew Zimmerman, the guy from Bizarre Foods? Can you elaborate on this or no?

.

It's actually Zimmern. I believe. Not sure about spelling but that's how it's pronounced.

His name was Andrew Zimmerman - not anymore

Has anybody actually asked the man himself?

originally posted by: bitcoinforever

originally posted by: coop039

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: TombEscaper


When i was a kid, 'Snickers' was always called 'Marathon'.

Marathon was NOT a Snickers. Marathon was a long braded caramel coated in chocolate.

I don't know what country you live in but in the UK Marathon absolutely was changed to snickers and was the same type of bar it is now.

Marathon was the British brand name and Snickers was the global one.

Mars-to-bring-back-Marathon-bars
From article:

Marathon was renamed Snickers in 1990, after Mars decided to scrap the British brand and bring it into line with its global operation. For a period the wrapper of the bar carried both names, before Marathon was removed. The move made the bar something of a cultural reference point.