The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2

originally posted by: wesleyapril
Also, you will more than likely share some of the same physical symptoms - that those that see the changes do - insomnia, sick stomach, dizzy, headaches/migraines, ear ringing, jaw pain, shoulder pain, trouble finding words - i.e. the room with the car in it. Sometimes we are forgetful also.

I've had all these symptoms for a year or more now. I've always had reoccurring ear ringing, and insomnia was a serious problem of mine in the past, less so lately. The most noticeable thing with me lately is how I stumble through my words at random lately, for no reason than I can determine. I never had this problem before.

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I had that really really bad for awhile. The stumbling of words. I Thought it was a symptom of my benzo withdrawals, but maybe not because I powered through that miraculously quick.....

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

But how do you account for a change happening while you are looking at it? That is what happened to me while looking at Pete Townsend lyrics on lyrics.wikia.com. I went back to the album tracks from a song and it then read "Townshend". How is that a shared false memory due to the interweb?

They say seeing is believing. I saw it happen. But I suppose it is like the time I saw a triangle ship flying around--just another load of b.s. I am trying to pass off! Twice, it seems.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: TombEscaper

None of this is proof, whatsoever, of anything but people making mistakes. MANY people make the same grammar mistakes ("for all intensive purposes", "perrogative" instead of prerogative and so on...)

Why don't people explain these massive misunderstandings and mistakes as the "Mandela effect"?

The Mandela Effect can be denied. It's simply some percentage of people making the same, common, mistake.

JMO, but I think this absolutely hits the nail on the head. For a quick example, my mother says chester drawers which is actually incorrect. The proper wording is a chest of drawers . Google however will do the same exact thing as op states if I type either in. Some people will see a spook behind every bush.

a reply to: JustJoe

Heh, that thread you pointed to is some excellent trolling... OR some being from outside our reality inserted and was being helpful on an even more obscure website for paranoid/delusional conscious entities! Either way, fun stuff... and either way, it could be a flavor of truth, too.

I'm still of the educated opinion this ME is all well known foibles of the human brain... especially the geography vagueness experienced by most folks, but also admit I'm susceptible to it and think I've experienced it, too.

Novelty makes being conscious (relatively conscious) worthwhile... and this ME is great fun... true, false or some % of both.

a reply to: TombEscaper

Condescending?

That's not condescending, that's the truth.

I see you addressed this post, but not my other one about the Disney memory test.

30-40% thought they met bugs bunny at Disney just from subtle suggestions...

Must be a time line slip,for them too! (That's condescending)

Would it be possible to find some sort or official documents on mcintyre? Such as driving licence or mug shot? This could clear things up.

Regarding the old album covers etc could it be possible someone or something is changing the graphics due to her changing her official name?

Could check other people who have changed their names and see if they are back dated?

a reply to: 191stMIDET

Because that would be the normal way one would think to spell Berenstein, and the rest is history.

a reply to: Baddogma

You know, maybe the ingestion of such substances is frowned upon because the software updates don't stick particularly well. So TPTB know who has done it, and know who needs special attention so they do not mess it up for the other lab rats.

I popped out of this reality once using said stuff. I felt like I was being cut up (un-digitized?) I found myself in a bed that was all sci-fi like. I got up and looked around. There were rows of beds with beings in them. I had been lying in one myself. I did not particularly feel any different but I was no longer human. I started down the hall and came across some "greys" who were monitoring some other beds. They looked shocked to see me.

Then they said, "You're being a bad boy! Go back and enjoy the show".

I said to them, "It is TOO real! Everybody forgets once inside that it is not REAL!!"

They responded, "Our scientists have said it is safe. So it is safe. Go enjoy the light show" and pointed. I looked at what they were pointing at and was sucked back into this reality.

Maybe olaru's 11-dimensional reality is just another Universe simulation running on the same computer? It would make sense that Universe Next Door interacts with ours. I have heard a man and woman talking one night about me being aware of them. The man scoffed and said, "Nah! he's sleeping!" I was going to answer but just laid there. So there are lurkers from other dimensions. "Greetings from the Bernstein-verse!"

a reply to: noonebutme

It's not Darth Vader and we have not been discussing Darth Vader in another thread, and I am a girl, and you are Bing harsh and nasty.

originally posted by: noonebutme
a reply to: jacygirl

That's a fair point and I respect it. I disagree, but I respect it

I mentioned in another thread ( of which I won't mention the fictional character's name as it apparently causes trauma to multiple people on here...) about a recollection I had of Star Wars: Return of the Jedi where, near the end when the Rebels attack the death star, I am 100% sure a bunch of their ships collided with the shield and exploded before others pulled up in safety.

Now, I have tried to find any reference of this but no luck. Now, both my brother and I remember this. BUT... i highly suspect I inadvertently convinced him he saw that happen as well. None of my friends, also Star Wars lunatics, do not recall this memory. No one I have spoken to remembers this either.

So.. based on that - to me, logically, it's me who is at fault. Even though I can almost visually play back that scene in my mind's eye, it didn't happen. It was me who got it wrong.

(please don't say you recall that memory or you WILL blow my mind!

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You and whomever else can write or say the name all you want. I just do t like saying it, the name is LUKE and you are a sick and twisted manipulator. Stop putting words in people's mouths that aren't true, and just leave me the hell alone.

I too came here to speak with like minded. Not be abused and locked and have your theories shoved down my throat on repeat over and over like a broken record.... Buzz off already.

originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: noonebutme

You did mock him, and in comparison to that, my insults are nothing but the truth. I try not to insult people generally, but you really did go for him, without even a hint of a concession for the fact that he was making the point that the name Luke was the name of his abuser. You knew he didn't mean Darth Vader, so yes, you mocked him instead of kindly refraining from further mockery.

Actually I didn't. To be honest I couldn't care less and I should not have to avoid saying the name of a person because he has issue with it in his past.

I never said YOU had to avoid saying it. I said I hate sayi g it or hearing it. Again, stop manipulating and twisting the truth.

I said the whole reason I remember the LIAYF quote so well is because that is the name of my abuser and it made me cringe every time....

You know very well and are twisting truth to make it look like I cringe at the name Darth Vader....

If it were NOOOOOOOOOO I AM YOUR FATHER, I wouldn't have cringed every time for nearly 30 years....

Capishe???

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

And that we are in a "simulation" or amusement park ride circa 3075 or God's computer, etc., is quite possible and I, too, got that basic message when under the influence.. . though lost most of it when I came "back."

My dad had that vivid experience when he died for ten minutes and was quite positive that this reality is dreamlike in comparison to the "real one" but it could be Russian Egg reality simulations running and couched within each other to infinity... though I've curious as to how the "real" origin reality would be.. .likely divisible past the Planck length, for starters.

Anyway, i know you aren't too crazy (no more than I am) and so that experience is fascinating.. .thanks!

a reply to: homeskillet

Why in the world would that help? The matrix is self-correcting....

So the Mandela affect had weirded me out.. Most of them don't ring true (Mandela didn't die in the 80s).

But there are some that have got me thinking.. Berenstein Bears and the Forrest Gump quote. It SEEMS like these have changed.

After a lot of thinking I suspect my memory is wrong, which is hard pill to swallow because my memory has always been a source of pride.

So what do I put it down to.. Dawkins meme theory. or a variation of. I.e. The misinterpretations are so wide spread that they become accepted as correct. When we look into it and are wrong it's whole bunch of confusion.

That said I still think it is really fascinating. And it makes me wonder how much of our perceived history is wrong and how much we are influenced by memes (not the pictures with funny captions).

And yeah honestly when it is happening at such a grand global collective scale you could say it has changed reality, but not in the way most people are talking about. It's like it changes your personal reality not actual reality. Crazy how we are all so inter-connected.

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: noonebutme

Ah, but you said you weren't being mean. If you don't believe in something then you feel this gives you the right to be rude, because it isn't rude if you don't believe what they are saying. Also, your own past does not excuse your behaviour with others. You can strongly disagree with someone without being hurtful.

Thank you.I am balling my eyes out here.. I haven't felt so disrespected, ini don't even k is how long!

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: hidingthistime

I want to know who moved us to a new position in the Milky Way!

We're all living in the Truman Show

I know! Me too! Lol...

All I can think of is right before 2012 some of the new ahead saying we were going to go through a black hole or something g, and when I saw that we moved into the center of the milky way from the outer arm of Sagittarius, I recalled what they said, and though, geese, what if they were actually right???

Almost as dumb as flat earth tards.

originally posted by: 191stMIDET
a reply to: Chadwickus

I'm wrong all the time and human memory is very unreliable. But if it was STAIN instead of STEIN then why did my parents, teachers, friends, my brother and myself pronounce it "Bear-en-Steen"?

If it were STAIN we would have made up a bunch of bear poop STAIN jokes...but we didn't, and there are no common poop STAIN jokes about them because it has only been STAIN for a few years and instead of making up jokes we have all been stumped a out it!

OP. ill settle this for you here. IF something has been changed with altering time every instance of it will change the name and there will be almost no deviation from the newly amended name in the timestream. In short IF this was true then all the names would match period.

I have avoided this thread just for this reason, people who haven't experienced the Mandela effect simply say you have a bad memory, in the other one I was called a schizophrenic. Its very real to me, geography has changed, movies have changed, names have been changed, celebrity deaths have changed, even events in my life have changed and I remember both events. I just don't feel like defending myself against someone who hasn't experienced it because I will never convince them otherwise.