Trump? Are You People That Gullible?

Trump? Are you people that gullible?

Are you?

Have you even bothered to learn about each candidate's plans and stances on issues, beyond establishment-fed media soundbites?

Ya, hard to decide.

The one funding their own campaign or the one who is answerable to Wall Street because they fund her campaign and she won't even release transcripts of her highly paid speeches to them?

Pretty much it in a nutshell. Like him or hate him, Hillary is bought and paid for, while Trump is more of a wild card. While Bernie is a pipe-dream. (and truth be told, if you actually do the math, you'll find out how much of a pay cut you'd get if he did get elected and got his way). Cruz? Also bought and paid for, not quite as badly as Hillary, as he's more of a new acquisition by the elite, but still not our interests at heart.

a reply to: forthelove

OP! OP! Relax... He'll never be elected President. But I agree with you that the number of people who support him is scary. It's an unfortunate sign of just how fed up people are with the status quo. I'm not breaking any new ground there with my assessment. I'm not sure what the solution is to everyone's anger. I know it's not what we've been doing, as a society - everyone yelling at everyone else when things don't go exactly how we, or the talking heads on our 'news' programs, think they should go. Very sad, actually. I have my ideas, as everyone does, regarding how things might get better. I don't what the answer is. I wish I did.

a reply to: schuyler

'Rush' to condemn? He's been embarrassing the country for almost a year now. How big does a tumor have to become before we call it cancer?

a reply to: seeker1963

Compared to his haters, his supporters ARE small, in number. That's why the GOP is not wanting him to get the nomination. Because they know the he'll get CRUSHED in a national election, (just like any of the hoard of GOP clowns that were/are running this year). That's what happens when a party's platform is straight out of 1955. But hey, you keep thinking what ever you want. I hope you enjoy the election.

I don't trust Trump, but he can't be worse than Hillary. Hillary spouts every socialist globalist talking point there is, while Trump goes against most of the globalist platform. Certainly he could just be playing the part, but if I have to choose between someone who openly embraces the globalist agenda, or someone who at least rhetorically opposes the agenda, I'll go with the latter.

originally posted by: forthelove
Trump? Are you people that gullible?
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Seriously, how can people be so incredibly naive?

My commentary on ATS lately contains a lot of clues regarding those questions. Especially my thread called "One myth leads to another".

I can imagine to some people this all appearing rather puzzling and even unbelievable almost (if you weren't observing it right in front of your own eyes). However, it all makes perfect sense if you understand how "the system of things" works. Or in other words, how the world works. My sig below contains your first set of clues.

I've been saying for a long time that Republicans are such closet racists that if you had a candidate who just went full racist, full hate, full push for violence, that candidate would rocket all the way to the white house.

Trump is the closest thing they've had to that yet.

Whats worse than a globalist socialist? A person with narcissistic personality disorder, who openly pushes for violence, torture, war crimes, who fires up the racists, wants to mass deport millions, and silence the media who speak against him, and close up the internet.

Globalist is like warm cup of soup compared to this idiot. But Republicans are literally the dumbest people on the planet with their bibles and guns and hate of science. Dumb people vote Trump. Fact.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

So you are or you aren't voting for Trump.

I'm confused.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

OMG
Are we going to reopen a freakin birther issue again. Like the moronic movement that totally failed with Obama???

Absolutely not the same thing, Ted Cruz was born in Canada and its well documented that he was; so nothing about that is a conspiracy at all.

but hey electroal college decides with that nice outdated republic voting system where the popular vote is just a poll and not an actual vote... ive got a thread on this nearly 4 years old if you want facts about how it operates... and yay 2 years of fiasco called primaries etc where its horse and pony show.

All taxpayers pay for this fiasco as the "campaign" contributions are tax refundable to the party... so they can lump that into buying out state and local elections. I mean seriously how are so many educated people so uneducated about how all this even works?

I feel like a zombie sometimes going... the pander the pander has anyone any brains the pander, what social issues has any politics solved in the last 50 years? Roe vs. Wade was a court descision as well as all other "social" wins for ethics that reflect constitutional rights and not the control factor and promises from the pander that never see the light of day without tons of citizen initiatives to wrestle rights or petitions to just be ignored in states without the initiative process.

So yeah not going to even play the game and get upset because there is a way to change it, but wow gotta play the rigged game to even do anyting, progressive thats like a mule dragging its feet because an elephant is tied to its tail... wheres people? Standing agape at such a scene going wtf are we even looking at this is insanity... I cant even... and those are the last 3 generations watching this puppet show while the rest of the world is going... is someting in their water? Should we contact the W.H.O.? And now the UK is talking about bailing out of the European Union, um kinda reminds me of the George Bush playbook wanting to bail out of the UN cause cant get the rogue without been rogue... axis of evil? lol start passing out mirrors ffs

But hey, dont worry The Xs the Ys and the Ms are the future, and that old moral over ethics establishment boat iz fool o holes... and seeing the desperation and clinging if it didnt hurt, starve, and kill thousands of people world wide? Would be more comical.

originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: schuyler

'Rush' to condemn? He's been embarrassing the country for almost a year now. How big does a tumor have to become before we call it cancer?

Actually there is no rush to judgement. Obama has been embarrassing this country for eight years now.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Most American, (maybe not your friends, of course), would disagree with you. That's why he was elected - TWICE.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: forthelove

He has shown that he is incapable of empathy. He has demonstrated his greed. And yet, here we are on the precipice of giving him carte blanch to inflict his narcissism on an entire planet. As if he has not already done enough damage.

What about the time Trump picked up a sick boy in his jet so that a child could get medical attention across the country?

What about the time Trump payed off someone’s mortgage because her husband committed suicide?

What about the time Trump let Jennifer Hudson stay at Trump tower rent free in order to grieve after her family was killed?

Now compare these to any other candidate. What a real piece of # he is, eh?

ONE Word

Publicity Stunt ................

how did you find out ? the fricken media eh?

We are going to have a Foreigner
thats only been in this country for about 11ish years !

as a First Lady -- yay !!!

His Little Secret Adviser

She is standing out of the spot light now ..
let see what happens when he is in the white house


Well.. Wolfenz

There is no Law saying she has to be American Born
for being the First lady !

Well There SHOULD be one... Seeing the Accomplishments of some of the First Ladys

Top 10 Most Influential First Ladies
americanhistory.about.com...

just an example : of beholded Power.

• Sarah Polk
She was known to craft speeches and write correspondence for him
As first lady, she used her education to help her husband,

• Edith Wilson
In 1919, President Wilson suffered a stroke. Edith Wilson basically took control of the presidency. She made daily decisions about what items should or should not be taken to her husband for input. If it was not important in her eyes, then she would not pass it on to the president. She was criticized for this by many. It is still not completely known how much power Edith Wilson truly wielded.

• Eleanor Roosevelt
She was a leader in the formation of the United Nations at the end of World War II.

• Rosalynn Carter
She married Jimmy Carter in 1946. Throughout his term as president, Rosalynn Carter was one of his closest advisers. Unlike previous first ladies, she actually sat in on many cabinet meetings.

• Hillary Clinton

Well I guess we don't have to go into details about her..

Sorry Folks.. I just have a Problem with a Presidential Candidate that has a
Slovenian Wife thats only been in this country for 11 years..

She would be the First Lady born in a Communist nation
now thats interesting !

That's why the GOP is not wanting him to get the nomination. Because they know the he'll get CRUSHED in a national election

Do you think Cruz or Kascich (so unknown I can't even recall how to spell his name) has a chance against Hillary?
If so, you're living in a fantasy world.

I'll state this now. If the GOP snubs Trump, and goes with someone else, and Trump then runs independent, I can nearly GUARANTEE he will STILL get more votes than Cruz. (though neither will beat Hillary in that scenario).

a reply to: Wolfenz

ONE Word

Publicity Stunt ................

how did you find out ? the fricken media eh?

That's two words.

Either you have evidence for your claims or you do not. Which is it?

originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: UnBreakable

Most American, (maybe not your friends, of course), would disagree with you. That's why he was elected - TWICE.

And Dubya, who was also an embarrassment was elected - TWICE. So, what's your point?

This just looks like another over emotional and sensational anti-Trump thread.
We've had plenty but they appear to be getting less and less fortunately.

It would be nice to have an objective discussion on Trump: strengths and weaknesses, areas of valid experience, areas of no experience. Who should he seek help from? , etc...

Have yet to find an anti-Trumper that can stay within the bounds of reality though.

originally posted by: Gazrok

That's why the GOP is not wanting him to get the nomination. Because they know the he'll get CRUSHED in a national election

Do you think Cruz or Kascich (so unknown I can't even recall how to spell his name) has a chance against Hillary?
If so, you're living in a fantasy world.

I'll state this now. If the GOP snubs Trump, and goes with someone else, and Trump then runs independent, I can nearly GUARANTEE he will STILL get more votes than Cruz. (though neither will beat Hillary in that scenario).

Hillary will win the general, but Trump-Hillary debates will be epic. Hillary may be a better debater on policy specifics and she will try to remain presidential. But no doubt Trump will bring up her husbands womanizing ways in which she turns the other cheek, while always espousing women's rights. He'll also constantly harp on her hypocritical Wall Street ties, emails, Benghazi, etc. She'll be elected as president with the highest unfavorables and untrustworthiness of any prez in history.

If you don't want Trump in office then support Bernie Sanders. If you don't trust Hillary Clinton vote Sanders.

My reason behind voting for Trump is if Bernie Sanders doesn't win the primary.

I absolutely do not trust Hillary Clinton one bit.

It is tump/sanders for me. But extremely heavy on the Sanders side.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: forthelove

He has shown that he is incapable of empathy. He has demonstrated his greed. And yet, here we are on the precipice of giving him carte blanch to inflict his narcissism on an entire planet. As if he has not already done enough damage.

What about the time Trump picked up a sick boy in his jet so that a child could get medical attention across the country?

What about the time Trump payed off someone’s mortgage because her husband committed suicide?

What about the time Trump let Jennifer Hudson stay at Trump tower rent free in order to grieve after her family was killed?

Now compare these to any other candidate. What a real piece of # he is, eh?

Was all of that before or after 2010, when he tried to force Palm Beach International Airport to change their flight path over his beach club and then filed a suit saying the government was ordering the FAA to start deliberately flying planes over his roof because they had it out for him?

He said it himself, he's a performer. He admitted that he is deceitful. He admitted that he lied to the entire country for his own personal interests. Does he care about a few people once in a while? Maybe...but I have a feeling that he only does it when he stands to benefit from it. Does he care about every single citizen in the United States? No...and he's made that abundantly clear too.

I'm not even remotely believing the notion that he has killed or ruined the lives of millions of people, but I definitely think he plans to do exactly that if he's given the power and means by which to accomplish it. Is he a murderer? Not yet. But a "real piece of #", that he most certainly is.