Virginia gives voting rights to Felons?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: curiouspatience

Give them back their 2nd Amendment rights, THEN I'll be impressed.

Well it does say in the amendment shall not infringe or be abridged so thats actually constitutionally sound.

a reply to: yuppa

I have a hard time cheering a government that arbitrarily allows and dispenses rights.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: yuppa

I have a hard time cheering a government that arbitrarily allows and dispenses rights.

True,but komrade... here in Amerikka. We are the home of the brave and the land of the free(to a point) We have to give back to the motherland right Komrade? lol.

All hail our new socialist overlords! lol.

a reply to: yuppa

Land of the fee and home of the blame.

We get what we tolerate.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: enlightenedservant

You are forgetting that previous governors had indicated that such mass changes would require a change to the Virginia constitution.

McAuliffe just ignored it,like Obama ignores the US Constitution in the "executive amnesty" actions, now at the Supreme Court for debate; every single lower court ruled against Obama.

So, save the speech about constitution and rule of law. "D" s will ignore it to fit their narrative.

Incidentally, this debate is NOT about anyone's rights; it's about getting extra votes for Hillary.

It does not matter. And really are you sure they will all vote D? A person who completes their sentence should have all rights restored as soon as their sentence is done. NOT doing so is Un constitutional. f they want to change it have a convention and change it.

You are wrong
Not granting felons the vote IS constitutional and has been part of Virginia constitution since the start, AS PREVIOUS VIRGINIA GOVERNORS HAVE STATED.

You are seeking to distort historical FACTS and laws.

"D"s are the ones not respecting state or US constitutions, or seeking to "read in" things that are simply not there.

Then there is no reason to even let them out of prison then at least in this country. And thats The VIRGINIAN constitution not the BIG ONE that actually counts. ALso We dont have a right to vote anyway remember? We choose our representatives and THEY vote.

Anyway since ex cons are never given a clean slate to restart over its actually kinder to deport them instead so they can find a place where they can find a job. The whole paying your debt to society is a FARCE.

That is NOT what I said.
Distortion again.

Being factual:
"That isn’t just our opinion; it is the opinion of prior governors and attorneys general of both political parties. For example, on January 15, 2010, Mark Rubin, the counselor for former Virginia governor Tim Kaine (D., now a U.S. senator), sent a letter on the governor’s behalf to the ACLU, saying that Kaine did not have the executive power “to grant a blanket restoration of voting rights,” which the ACLU had requested. Kaine supported restoration of voting rights but refused to act because his counsel’s view was that the “better argument” was that the powers in the Virginia constitutional provision on clemency (Article 5, Section 12) “are meant to apply in particular cases to named individuals.” In fact, “a blanket order restoring the voting rights of everyone would be a rewrite of the law. . . . The notion that the Constitution of the Commonwealth could be rewritten via executive order is troubling.”

Similarly, then–attorney general Ken Cuccinelli (R.) appointed the Rights Restoration Advisory Committee to examine this issue. The committee included not only several Commonwealth Attorneys (i.e., the district attorneys of Virginia counties) and a professor from George Mason University but also Ashley Taylor Jr., a former commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, and Paul Goldman, the former senior adviser to Doug Wilder (D.), the first African-American governor of Virginia.

On May 10, 2013, the committee issued a report concluding that the governor does not have constitutional authority to “institute by executive order” a complete “restoration of rights for all convicted felons in the Commonwealth of Virginia.” Why? Because his clemency power in Article 5 must be harmonized with Article 2, Section 1, which provides that “no person who has been convicted of a felony shall be qualified to vote unless his civil rights have been restored.” If, instead of acting individually to consider each “person” and “his civil rights,” the governor issues a blanket restoration, such “altering [of] the public policy of the Commonwealth as regards the disenfranchisement of persons convicted of felonies clearly would be a legislative act, not an administrative act.” It would be “difficult” for a court to “sustain a Governor’s exercise of [his] clemency power in so sweeping a manner that the Constitution’s general policy of disenfranchisement of felons is voided.”

Yet that is exactly what McAuliffe attempts to do through his executive order, in a violation of the separation of powers"

But you won't listen, you would rather give your "leader" dictatorial powers, like all leftists.
Even when well intentionned, it never ends well, ex: Venezuela

Good luck

Virginia gives voting rights to Felons?

Don't let them fool you.

If they were all so concerned with felon RIGHTS.

They would RESTORE all of them.

Including that right to keep and bear arms.

But no people.

The only 'right' that concerns them is the 'right' to VOTE so they can pad their voting base.

And that says more about politicians than anything else.

They don't care who votes for them.

A pedo.

A rapist.

A mass shooter.

WHATEVER.

As long as they vote for X.

God bless 'Merkia people!

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.