God Did It! The rest is post modern chatter!

a reply to: Akragon

12 × 12000 = 144000
How's that?

a reply to: 5StarOracle

That is not science. Try again. What part of the physical and natural world does that ascribe too? If memory serves you just ascribed the dimensions of heaven. A supernatural place, outside of science's perview. I may be wrong on this, as Revelations bores me.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Yes there is some really bad math in the bible as I have pointed out before.

Check sokomons temple. It was no more than 10,000 square feet yet it took 153,000 builders? It also took 7 years to complete. And could hold more gold and silver than the volume of the building.

Yes there is bad mathematics in the bible.

How about the mathematics of the Ark. The only thing right about that story is that the boat would be proportionally good for floating. The amount of animals and birds and insects that would have to go inside are not possible. Nor would it be possible for Noah to feed the animals.

a reply to: Noinden
No.
Its how many get to go to heaven.

a reply to: Noinden

Oh wait no thats the servants of god in another part of Revleations.... it is STILL not science.

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: edmc^2


You keep focusing on that even though it's not proof of anything but you haven't assessed the other dozen proofs that scripture is not scientifically accurate .Neither is hanging as you've been told by about 6 people in this thread. The earth is not hanging it's moving. There is a big difference between hanging and moving or hanging and swinging.

So what about all the other bible verses I presented which contradict modern science? Are you ever going to a dress them? Or are you just going to keep playing games?

of course because all 6 of you are giving meaning to something that simply means nothing is holding it. One here thinks that "hanging on nothing" is falling on the sun.

can't make that up even if I try to.

a reply to: Phage

No that's how many Jews are spared the period of tribulation...
That means they will be alive at the time those things transpire...
It is part of a vision linked to the lion of Judah aka Jesus as referenced from older prophesies...
After this the vision changes and the lion of Judah is transformed into a slaughtered lamb aka Jesus... also referenced from much older prophesies when speaking of his death for mankind...
Then the number before him becomes a countless multitude of Jews and gentiles...
And that is the referances to the number saved...
A countless multitude...

a reply to: Phage

Like I said, revelations bores me, and the number 12000 (stadia) also appears in revelations. That number was popular. As I said, none of this is science.

So no, he has provided zero evidence for science in the bible yet.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Akragon

12 × 12000 = 144000
How's that?

Thats wonderful... But its not science...

And its math refering to something that hasn't happened... In a book where most things written will never actually happen...

Pretty weak arguement man

a reply to: edmc^2

They didn't say that hangs on nothing is falling of the Sun.

Hangs on nothing means hangs on nothing. Its not an accurate picture of what's happening at all. Their language is not in question either as they had words for everything. It doesn't matter how poetic the book of job is it's not scientifically accurate.

Now address the wrong order of creation in genesis or the fact that God said all plants are good for food? Again I ASK YOU WOULD YOU EAT ANY KIND OF BERRRY?

a reply to: Akragon

You asked for an example...
I showed you the math...
so that's a weak complaint...

a reply to: Phage

What is Earth's place in space? What is its location?

Let me see. How do I make this clearer!

I can't. It's so simple already a child can understand it.

Johnny, the earth is hanging on nothing in space.

Even the aborigines can understand "The earth is hanging on nothing out there in space."

But let's use your words - Johnny, the "earth is falling on the sun".

Huh?

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Except the older prophecies of the messiah never said he would be sacrificed for mankind. The older prophecies said the messiah would be a military leader that would lead the Hebrews to victory.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

One small equasion that isn't even specifically stated isn't proof of science within the book...

One fish two fish red fish blue fish = 4 fish...

Maybe two... Math is pretty tough... And im better at sciences anyways

But that isn't science... And its barely math

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: edmc^2

They didn't say that hangs on nothing is falling of the Sun.

Hangs on nothing means hangs on nothing. Its not an accurate picture of what's happening at all. Their language is not in question either as they had words for everything. It doesn't matter how poetic the book of job is it's not scientifically accurate.

Now address the wrong order of creation in genesis or the fact that God said all plants are good for food? Again I ASK YOU WOULD YOU EAT ANY KIND OF BERRRY?

Let's see which one 9 years Johnny will understand about earth's place in space:

Johnny, the earth is hanging on nothing in space.

But Joe and Phage said - "is falling of the Sun."

a reply to: edmc^2

Ah. So Job knew it but he also knew everyone else was too stupid (like the aborigines?) to understand something moving around something else.

No. Job had no idea of the nature of the Earth.

a reply to: Akragon

Yeah sure...

This is scientific...

Job 36:27-29
For He draws up drops of water,
Which distill as rain from the mist,
Which the clouds drop down
And pour abundantly on man.
Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,
The thunder from His canopy?

What this really says...

The drops of water which eventually pour down as rain first become vapor and then condense to tiny liquid water droplets in the clouds. These finally coalesce into drops large enough to overcome the updrafts that suspend them in the air.

a reply to: edmc^2

Falling around he sun woukd be more accurate

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Sure i'll give you that one...

So the "science" found in the bible is equivalent to a 2nd grader's education

Attributed to an all knowing all powerful being

Hmm

a reply to: 5StarOracle

The drops of water which eventually pour down as rain first become vapor and then condense to tiny liquid water droplets in the clouds.

Vapor? Where? I see no mention of vapor. But anyone with eyes can see what happens when it condenses. Condenses into mist. Can see that rain falls from clouds.

But it seems that Job had no idea of the actual process.
"Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,
The thunder from His canopy? " It's magic. Unknowable. God just makes it happen. That is not science.